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Hi Penelope. 1891 Census lookup please for: Harriet Griffiths, Birthplace Blakeney Hill, Gloucester Year of Birth c1868. In the 1881 Census she was living at home with her family. Census place was Westbury on Severn, Gloucester PRO Reference RG11 Piece/Folio 2523/97 Page 17 I need to know if she was still there in 1891. If she not still with her family can you check the 1891 census for Dunham on Trent, Notts please, still in her maiden name. If no trace can you look for her living as Harriet BEAT wife of James Beat in Dunham on Trent please and show all family members etc. Any info' most welcome. Many thanks. Ron

Hi Pen Yes this is the family George is my grandad just trying to find out what happend to the rest of the family . Thanks again for your help Cheers Frank

Hi again - Will check again ************************************************************************** 1891 census ****AS PREVIOUSLY FOUND Name: Peter Bibby Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 Relation: Son Father's name: Peter Mother's name: Alice Gender: Male Where Born: Rishton, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Rishton Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter and St Paul Town: Rishton County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Blackburn Sub registration district: Harwood ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Household Members: Name Age Alice Bibby 44 Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire, England abt 1844 wife Margaret J Bibby 3 Rishton, Lancashire, England abt 1888 daug Mary A Bibby 15 Rishton, Lancashire, England abt 1876 daug Peter Bibby 43 Clitheroe, Lancashire, England abt 848 head Peter Bibby 18 Rishton, Lancashire, England abt 1873 son Priscilla Bibby 12 Rishton, Lancashire, England abt 1879 dau Robert Bibby 1 Rishton, Lancashire, England abt 1890 son Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3393; Folio 128; Page 45; GSU roll: 6098503 Address - 82 Spring Street Occupation of Head - Cotton Weaver Occupations of the children - Peter, Mary A and Priscilla - cotton weavers, although Priscilla is marked down as 1/2 time **The above family found on the 1881 census - Name: Peter Bibby Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 Relation: Son Father's name: Peter Mother's name: Alice Gender: Male Where Born: Rishton, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Rishton County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Edward St 5 Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Blackburn Sub registration district: Harwood ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Alice Bibby 34 Eliza Bibby 11 John Bibby 13 Joseph Bibby 7 Mary A. Bibby 5 Peter Bibby 33 Peter Bibby 8 Priscilla Bibby 2 ************************************************************************** Is this YOUR family on the 1881 - Name: Peter Bibby Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relation: Son Mother's name: Margaret Gender: Male Where Born: Rishton, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Rishton County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Burton St Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Cotton Weaver Registration district: Blackburn Sub registration district: Harwood ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Household Members: Name Age Ellen Bibby 18 Blackburn, Lancashire, England abt 1863 George Bibby 14 Rishton, Lancashire, England abt 1867 Margaret Bibby 45 Blackburn, Lancashire, England abt 1836 Margaret A. Bibby 6 Rishton, Lancashire, England abt 1875 Mary J. Bibby 17 Rishton, Lancashire, England abt 1869 Peter Bibby 12 John Gawlter 38 William Starkie 16 *************************************************** 1891 ....looking for them now Name: Margaret A Bibby Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875 Relation: Daughter Mother's name: Margaret Gender: Female Where Born: Rishton, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Rishton Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter and St Paul Town: Rishton County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Blackburn Sub registration district: Harwood ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Clara Aspin 8 George Bibby 24 Margaret Bibby 54 Margaret A Bibby 16 Ermmmm..no Peter. Do we have him on the 1901? P x

Donna I can only find the entry that you have. Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Jun 1891 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hacker Flora Julia Hungerford 2c 479 Kingston James Hungerford 2c 479 McTier Frederick Hungerford 2c 479 Scarlett Rosanna Hungerford 2c 479 It's sometimes quicker and easier to check the free bmd site rather than ancestry - as you can search for a marriage using both the bride and grooms surnames Pen x

Hi Pen. Thanks for that will check the Hargreaves family out Whalley only a few miles from Blackburn Would it be possible to see if there is another Peter Bibby born Rishton Lancs in 1868/69 in the 1891 census Thanks Frank

Donna On the census for 1891 his occupation is down as Butchers Salesman - address for them all 6 Clifford Street Pen x

Ann Brown 1841 Name: Elizabeth Roach Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823 Household: View other family members Gender: Female Where born: Ireland Civil parish: Manchester Hundred: Salford County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Source information: HO107/583/13 Registration district: Chorlton Sub-registration district: Hulme ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Folio: 37 Page: 21 (click to see others on page) Line number: 22 GSU Number: 438735 Ann Roach abt 1827 Ireland Manchester Lancashire View Record Arthur Roach abt 1821 Ireland Manchester Lancashire View Record Catherine Roach abt 1819 Ireland Manchester Lancashire View Record Elizabeth Roach abt 1791 Ireland Manchester Lancashire View Record Elizabeth Roach abt 1823 Ireland Manchester Lancashire View Record Jane Roach abt 1831 Ireland Manchester Lancashire View Record John Roach abt 1791 Ireland Manchester Lancashire View Record Nancy Roach abt 1825 Ireland Manchester Lancashire Address - 17 Agnes Street Occupation of the head of house - Lab ************************************************************************** I could not find a Christopher Causey in Wigan, Lancs. There were some Causey's but not a Christopher. However, there is this chap - **View Record Christopher Casey abt 1821 Ireland Manchester Lancashire View Record Elizabeth Casey abt 1801 Ireland Manchester Lancashire View Record James Casey abt 1794 Ireland Manchester Lancashire View Record Mary Casey abt 1831 Lancashire, England Manchester Lancashire View Record Charlotte Ravencraft abt 1779 Manchester Lancashire Source information: HO107/572/16 Registration district: Manchester Sub-registration district: London Road ED, institution, or vessel: 37 Folio: 42 Page: 40 (click to see others on page) Line number: 25 GSU Number: 438724 Pen x

Added by Francis Bibby on 14/08/2006 13:59:37 Hi Pen. Please could i have a 1891 census look up for Peter Bibby born Rishton Lancs cir 1868 father Peter mother Margaret i think they where cotton weavers Please could you look on the 1841 census for Margaret Hargreaves cir 1837 born Blackburn lancs father John Hargreaves she had a sister called Anne Thanks Again Frank ************************************************************************ Hi Frank 1891 census Name: Peter Bibby Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 Relation: Son Father's name: Peter Mother's name: Alice Gender: Male Where Born: Rishton, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Rishton Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter and St Paul Town: Rishton County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Blackburn Sub registration district: Harwood ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Household Members: Name Age Alice Bibby 44 Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire, England abt 1844 wife Margaret J Bibby 3 Rishton, Lancashire, England abt 1888 daug Mary A Bibby 15 Rishton, Lancashire, England abt 1876 daug Peter Bibby 43 Clitheroe, Lancashire, England abt 848 head Peter Bibby 18 Rishton, Lancashire, England abt 1873 son Priscilla Bibby 12 Rishton, Lancashire, England abt 1879 dau Robert Bibby 1 Rishton, Lancashire, England abt 1890 son Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3393; Folio 128; Page 45; GSU roll: 6098503 Address - 82 Spring Street Occupation of Head - Cotton Weaver Occupations of the children - Peter, Mary A and Priscilla - cotton weavers, although Priscilla is marked down as 1/2 time ************************************************************************** 1841 - Possibly ??? View Record Alice Hargreaves abt 1827 Lancashire, England Whalley Lancashire View Record Elija Hargreaves abt 1835 Lancashire, England Whalley Lancashire View Record Elizabeth Hargreaves abt 1806 Lancashire, England Whalley Lancashire View Record Elizabeth Hargreaves abt 1839 Lancashire, England Whalley Lancashire View Record Henry Hargreaves abt 1825 Lancashire, England Whalley Lancashire View Record Jonathan Hargreaves abt 1806 Lancashire, England Whalley Lancashire View Record Jude Hargreaves abt 1832 Lancashire, England Whalley Lancashire View Record Margaret Hargreaves abt 1837 Lancashire, England Whalley Lancashire View Record Richard Hargreaves abt 1829 Lancashire, England Whalley Lancashire Name: Margaret Hargreaves Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837 Household: View other family members Gender: Female Where born: Lancashire, England Civil parish: Whalley Hundred: Blackburn (Higher Division) County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Source information: HO107/507/6 Registration district: Burnley Sub-registration district: Burnley ED, institution, or vessel: 31 Folio: 17 Page: 4 (click to see others on page) Line number: 20 GSU Number: 306896 Pen x

Donna You have not said which census you wanted them on. But as you do not have a lot of info on them I thought it must be the 1901 and a please never goes amiss x Is this them - Name: James Welch Age: 37 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864 Relation: Head Spouses's Name: Emma Mary Gender: Male Where born: Wheathamstead, Hertfordshire, England Civil parish: Rickmansworth Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Registration district: Watford Sub-registration district: Rickmansworth ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Household schedule number: 24 Household Members: Name Age Elsie Mary Welch 9 Watford, Hertfordshire, England abt 1892 Emma Mary Welch 43 Teal, Devon, England abt 1858 James Welch 37 Wheathamstead, Hertfordshire, England abt 1864 Winifred Maud Welch 13 Watford, Hertfordshire, England abt 1888 Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1321; Folio: 113; Page: 6. *************************** 1891 Name: Winifred M Welch Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887 Relation: Daughter Father's name: James Mother's name: Emma M Gender: Female Where Born: Watford, Hertfordshire, England Civil parish: Watford Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Watford County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Registration district: Watford Sub registration district: Watford ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Ernest Right 18 Grantham, Leicestershire, England lodger abt 1873 Emma M Welch 35 Exeter, Devon, England abt 1856 wife James Welch 29 Wheathamstead, Hertfordshire, England abt 1862 head Winifred M Welch 4 Watford, Hertfordshire, England abt 1877 daughter Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1118; Folio 143; Page 23; GSU roll: 6096228. Can you confirm please ! Pen x This is most probably the marriage for the above couple - where did you get Berkshire from please? View Record Emma May Saunders 1886 Jul-Aug-Sep Watford Hertfordshire View Record James Welch 1886 Jul-Aug-Sep Watford Hertfordshire

Hi Pen. Please could i have a 1891 census look up for Peter Bibby born Rishton Lancs cir 1868 father Peter mother Margaret i think they where cotton weavers Please could you look on the 1841 census for Margaret Hargreaves cir 1837 born Blackburn lancs father John Hargreaves she had a sister called Anne Thanks Again Frank

Carol Biddass Found so far 1841 - View Record Hugh Barr abt 1833 Ayrshire, Scotland Beith Ayrshire 581 View Record Agness Love abt 1816 Ayrshire, Scotland Beith Ayrshire 581 View Record Hugh Love abt 1776 Ayrshire, Scotland Beith Ayrshire 581 View Record Janet Love abt 1771 Ayrshire, Scotland Beith Ayrshire 581 Name: Hugh Love Age: 65 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1776 Household: View other family members Gender: Male Where born: Ayrshire, Scotland Civil parish: Beith County: Ayrshire Address: 40 New Street Occupation: Shoe M Parish Number: 581 ED: 5 Page: 7 (click to see others on page) ******************************************* View Record Alexr Love abt 1836 Ayrshire, Scotland Beith Ayrshire 581 View Record Allan Love abt 1811 Ayrshire, Scotland Beith Ayrshire 581 View Record Isabella Love abt 1816 Scotland Beith Ayrshire 581 View Record James Love abt 1840 Ayrshire, Scotland Beith Ayrshire 581 View Record Mary Love abt 1838 Ayrshire, Scotland Beith Ayrshire 581 View Record Robert Love abt 1835 Ayrshire, Scotland Beith Ayrshire 581 Name: Allan Love Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 Household: View other family members Gender: Male Where born: Ayrshire, Scotland Civil parish: Beith County: Ayrshire Address: 107 School Wynd Occupation: Cotton H L W Parish Number: 581 ED: 5 Page: 20 (click to see others on page) ******************************************** Unable to find the first couple - Have checked under her maiden name also. Pen x

What about this one on the 1841 ? Closest match I could find. Name: Thomas Warner Age: 60 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1781 Household: View other family members Gender: Male Where born: Hertfordshire, England Civil parish: Bishops Hatfield Hundred: Broadwater County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Source information: HO107/436/9 Registration district: Hatfield Sub-registration district: Hatfield ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Folio: 38 Page: 16 (click to see others on page) Line number: 8 GSU Number: 288826 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Civil Parish: Bishops Hatfield; County: Hertfordshire; Enumeration District: 10; Page: 16; Line: 8; GSU roll: 288826. View Record Caroline Warner abt 1830 Hertfordshire, England Bishops Hatfield Hertfordshire View Record Hannah Warner abt 1822 Hertfordshire, England Bishops Hatfield Hertfordshire View Record John Warner abt 1818 Hertfordshire, England Bishops Hatfield Hertfordshire View Record Sarah Warner abt 1791 Hertfordshire, England Bishops Hatfield Hertfordshire View Record Thomas Warner abt 1781 Hertfordshire, England Bishops Hatfield Hertfordshire Pen x

Hi i wonder if you can help with 1841 Census Scotland. 1 Colin Clark and Catherine McMillian. All i have on them is a Daughter Elizabeth Clark b 1842 Stewarton. 2 Allen Love b 1814 Beith Isabella Wife b 1809 Dalrymple Robert Son b 1835 Alexander Son b 1836 Beith Mary/Marion Dau b 1838 Beith James Son b 1840 Beith 3 Hugh Love b 1775 Beith Margaret Wife b abt 1770 Many Thanks for your time Carol

Hello Penelope Thank you for the offer, I have got a missing person on the 1901 census, John Beet I wonder if it would be possible to find him on an earlier one. Unfortunatly all I know of him is his marriage to Gertrude Eliza Henson in 1896. In 1901 she is in Granby Notts with her children. I know he returns because they have more children. Thank you Karen

Hi Penelope, hoping you may be able to help me with 1841 Scottish census - family DONALDSON . Piece: SCT1841/622 Place: Barony-Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 32 Civil Parish: Barony Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: St. Stephen's Folio: 67 Page: 6 Address: 97 Cowcaddens I think the first son Jas DONALDSON aged 20 years stocking maker may have been transcribed, as I have yet to find any record of this son. I do however have records on a son called George ( or Geo ) who would have been that age. I am hoping that the actual census image will confirm or reject my suspicion. Many thanks Helen

thanks once again pen for all your help with my look ups linda

Kerri Young 1841 View Record David Bates abt 1831 Kent, England Teston Kent View Record James Bates abt 1837 Kent, England Teston Kent View Record Sarah Bates abt 1828 Kent, England Teston Kent View Record Susannah Bates abt 1806 Kent, England Teston Kent View Record Valantine Bates abt 1835 Kent, England Teston Kent Source information: HO107/463/1 Registration district: Maidstone Sub-registration district: Yalding ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Folio: 5 Page: 4 (click to see others on page) Line number: 3 GSU Number: 306858 Addy reads - Street Occupation for Susan - Ag Labs widow Pen x

Hi Samantha, Not to worry, lol. Glad that it all worked out fine in the end. Such a shame that they didn't include birthplaces in the 1841, it would solve so many little mysterys. I will bookmark that old occupations site. Bye for now Pen x

Hi Pen Thanks for the information on the Betts of Teston,Kent. (thread 2)Could you show me the household of David Betts b 1832 Teston,Kent & James Betts b 1837 Teston in 1841 census. They had as head of house Susan. Where are they living? Thanks Kerri

thats ok Pen, i will have a good look through my papers and make sure i havnt got it first, save you looking if i havent i will let you know if thats ok, regards Karen