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Hi Pen could you have a look on 1901 for:- Charles E Mills please this is on Frecen - 1891 for ref MILLS Charles Head M M 69 Agri Labourer(Em'ee) Hampshire - Romsey MILLS Mary Wife M F 66 London - - >>MILLS Charles E. Son S M 21 Rlw Labourer(Em'ee) Hampshire - Romsey Piece: RG12/940 Place: Winchester-Hampshire Enumeration District: 4 Civil Parish: Otterbourne Ecclesiastical Parish: Otterbourne Folio: 55 Page: 36 Schedule: 198b (he many not be in same area, at some point they may have moved south towards Gloucester/Cheddar, as the next generation are found their in 1919) many thanks Karen

Pamela Meats - CONTINUED Scott This looks like a match with the bride - Margaret Franklin - and the details given in the 1881 census for Margaret Brownlee. What do you think? 1871 Name: Marget Franklin Age: 57 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814 Relation: Wife Gender: Female Where born: Northd, North Shields Civil Parish: Tynemouth Ecclesiastical parish: Tynemouth Town: North Shields County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Registration district: Tynemouth Sub-registration district: Tynemouth ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Household schedule number: 194 Household Members: Name Age Edward Franklin 25 Northd, North Shields abt 1846 son Marget Franklin 57 Elien Wortham 3 South Shields, Durham, England abt 1868 granddaughter On the image, she is down as W, in the column stating the family member ranking, I think this means Widow. The other wifes on the page are down as wife. In the column for marital status, she just has a dash. Pen x

Pamela Meats For my ref - 1881 - as I am unable to find him on the 1851 and 1841, so will need to work back.... Name: Robert Brownlee Age: 77 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1804 Relation: Head Spouses's Name: Margaret Gender: Male Where Born: Sunderland, Durham, England Civil parish: Tynemouth County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street address: 2 East Percy St Condition as to marriage: Married Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Retired Mariner Registration district: Tynemouth Sub registration district: Tynemouth ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Margaret Brownlee 67 North Shields, Northumberland, England abt 1814 Robert Brownlee 77 ************************************** 1861 - Was Margaret a 2nd wife then ?? Could you please confirm xx Name: Job Brownlee Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Relation: Son Father's name: Robert Mother's name: Maria Gender: Male Where born: Newcastle, Northumberland, England Civil parish: Tynemouth Town: North Shields County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Tynemouth Sub-registration district: Tynemouth ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Household schedule number: 32 Household Members: Name Age Job Brownlee 14 Newcastle, Northumberland, England abt 1847 Maria Brownlee 56 Newcastle, Northumberland, England abt 1805 abt 1805 Robert Brownlee 56 Sunderland, Durham, England Robert Brownlee 14 Sunderland, Durham, England abt 1847 ****************************************************** 1851 Name: Maria Brownlee Age: 48 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1803 Relation: Wife Spouses's Name: Robert Gender: Female Where born: Northld, Newcastle Civil parish: Tynemouth Ecclesiastical parish: Tynemouth Town: North Shields County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Tynemouth Sub-registration district: Tynemouth ED, institution, or vessel: 1i Household schedule number: 81 Household Members: Name Age Hannah Brownlee 18 abt 1833 Northld, Newcastle Daughter Margaret Brownlee 20 abt 1831 Northld, Newcastle Daught Maria Brownlee 48 abt 1803 Northld, Newcastle Wife Maria Brownlee 2 abt 1849 Northld, Newcastle Daughter Pachnet Brownlee 5 abt 1846 Northld, Newcastle Son Robert Brownlee 50 abt 1801 Sunderland, Durham, England Head Robert Brownlee 8 abt 1843 Northld, Newcastle Son Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2410; Folio: 346; Page: 19; GSU roll: 87088. ***************************************************** 1841 View Record Hannah Brownlee abt 1838 Northumberland, England All Saints Northumberland View Record Margt Brownlee abt 1836 Northumberland, England All Saints Northumberland View Record Maria Brownlee abt 1806 Northumberland, England All Saints Northumberland Name: Maria Brownlee Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806 Household: View other family members Gender: Female Where born: Northumberland, England Civil parish: All Saints Hundred: Tindale (West Division) County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street address: Occupation: View image Source information: HO107/846/1 Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne Sub-registration district: All Saints ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Folio: 32 Page: 28 (click to see others on page) Line number: 16 GSU Number: 438898 Pen x ****************************************************** This looks like the death entry of the young daughter Maria - Name: Maria Brownlee Year of Registration: 1846 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Prescot County: Lancashire Volume: 20 Page: 607 (click to see others on page) This looks like the mother Maria's death entry - Name: Maria Brownlee Estimated Birth Year: abt 1802 Year of Registration: 1872 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Age at death: 70 District: Gateshead County: Durham, Tyne And Wear Volume: 10a Page: 459 (click to see others on page) ****************************************************** This could be his 2nd marriage - View Record Robert Brownlee 1873 Apr-May-Jun Newcastle Upon Tyne Northumberland View Record Elizabeth Edminson 1873 Apr-May-Jun Newcastle Upon Tyne Northumberland View Record Margaret Franklin 1873 Apr-May-Jun Newcastle Upon Tyne Northumberland View Record Richard Savage 1873 Apr-May-Jun Newcastle Upon Tyne Northumberland CONTINUED ON NEXT MESSAGE .......

Pam Joseph Wardle unable to find him on the Welsh 1891 or the 1891 for England. Will try the 1881 and hopefully might get other family details and locate him. Easier to look for a group... P x **UPDATE can not find him on 81 with those birth details. What next, any idea of parentage?

Hi Pen. Thank you for all the data you've produced for Harriet Griffiths/Beat it is of great help and might help to solve a mystery. Regards Ron

hi pen could you please do an 1841/1851 census lookup for ROBERT BROWNLEE, born 1804 in sunderland, durham. i have found, in 1881 census, that he was married to a MARGARET ?, born 1814 in north shields, northumberland. i know that they had a son, JOB BROWNLEE, born 1846 in north shields and have information on him, but am more interested in any info you may find on robert and margaret. THANK YOU :) scott

Hi Pen Just to say l have posted on page 11 in case you miss it. Best wishes Pam

Again Pen thanks so much given me plenty to work on Cheers Frank

Re Smith's of Coventry. thanks for your help, will try your ideas. Sue

Many thanks Pen for the Snoxall and Weedon lookups, much appreciated. Wendy x

Hi Pen Sorry l was rushing when l asked for the 1891 look up for Joseph l meant Joseph Wardle not Hopson. Though it's good to have that one too. He and Lydia married in 1901 Wrexham. Sorry to mess you about. Best wishes Pam

Francis Bibby 1891 ?? Peter ?? Name: Peter Bibby Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where Born: Hadlington, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Great Harwood Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew Town: Great Harwood County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Blackburn Sub registration district: Harwood ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Peter Bibby 29 abt 1862 Hadlington, Lancashire, England Lodger Anas Crook 33 abt 1858 Great Harwood, Lancashire, England Head Frederick Crook 8 abt 1883 Hadlington, Lancashire, England Son Marian E Crook 12 abt 1879 Great Harwood, Lancashire, England Daughter Marian Emma Crook 11 abt 1880 Great Harwood, Lancashire, England Daughter Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3392; Folio 63; Page 14; GSU roll: 6098502. Unlikely now......1881 Adlington /Hadlington ...ach's, lol. Name: Peter Bibby Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Relation: Son Mother's name: Margaret Gender: Male Where Born: Shevington, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Adlington County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Church Street Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Coal Miner Registration district: Chorley Sub registration district: Rivington ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Ann G. Bibby 12 Edward Bibby 16 Margaret Bibby 44 Peter Bibby 18 William Bibby 20

Found a poss marriage View Record Alice Bibby 1900 Oct-Nov-Dec Blackburn Lancashire View Record Jane Alice Coss 1900 Oct-Nov-Dec Blackburn Lancashire View Record William Dean 1900 Oct-Nov-Dec Blackburn Lancashire View Record Thomas Stones 1900 Oct-Nov-Dec Blackburn Lancashire *************************** 1901

Wendy 1861 Name: Hannah Weedon Age: 37 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824 Relation: Wife Spouses's Name: James Gender: Female Where born: Luton, Bedfordshire, England Civil parish: Luton County/Island: Bedfordshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Luton Sub-registration district: Luton ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Household schedule number: 38 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Weedon 16 Luton, Bedfordshire, England abt 1845 dau Emma Weedon 12 Luton, Bedfordshire, England abt 1848 dau Hannah Weedon 37 Luton, Bedfordshire, England abt 1824 wife James Weedon 38 Luton, Bedfordshire, England abt 1823 head Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 1012; Folio: 58; Page: 10; GSU roll: 542736. *********************** 1861 Name: Sarah Snoxall Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Relation: Wife Spouses's Name: Thomas Gender: Female Where born: Luton, Bedfordshire, England Civil parish: Luton County/Island: Bedfordshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Luton Sub-registration district: Luton ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Household schedule number: 40 Household Members: Name Age Hanah Snoxall 13 Luton, Bedfordshire, England abt 1848 daug Sarah Snoxall 35 Luton, Bedfordshire, England abt 1826 wife Sarah Snoxall 7 Luton, Bedfordshire, England abt 1854 daug Thomas Snoxall 36 Luton, Bedfordshire, England abt 1825 head Thomas Snoxall 2 Luton, Bedfordshire, England abt 1859 son Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 1012; Folio: 58; Page: 10; GSU roll: 542736. Pen x

Pam 1891 Name: Joseph Hopson Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876 Relation: Son Father's name: Thomas Mother's name: Lydia Gender: Male Where Born: Moss, Denbighshire, Wales Civil parish: Stansty Ecclesiastical parish: Rhosddn Town: Rhosddn County/Island: Denbighshire Country: Wales Street address: View image Condition as to marriage: View image Education: View image Employment status: View image Occupation: View image Registration district: Wrexham Sub registration district: Wrexham ED, institution, or vessel: 38 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Hopson 15 abt 1876 Moss, Denbighshire, Wales Son Lydia Hopson 47 abt 1844 Lower Gornal, Staffordshire, England Wife Lydia Hopson 17 abt 1874 Moss, Denbighshire, Wales Daughter Selina Hopson 6 abt 1885 Rhoseoben, Denbighshire, Wales Daughter Thomas Hopson 50 abt 1841 Lower Gornal, Staffordshire, England Head William Hopson 21 abt 1870 Moss, Denbighshire, Wales Son Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 4619; Folio 111; Page 26; GSU roll: 6099729. ************************** Pen x

Hi again Pen Would you have a look please to see if you can find Joseph at home with his parents on the 1891. Thanks in advance Pam

Susan 1861 for my ref - Name: Poley Smith Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Joseph Mother's name: Jane Gender: Female Where born: Coventry, Warwickshire, England Civil parish: Coventry St John Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Registration district: Coventry Sub-registration district: St John ED, institution, or vessel: 34 Household schedule number: 86 Household Members: Name Age George Smith 11 Coventry, Warwickshire, England abt 1850 James Smith 15 Coventry, Warwickshire, England abt 1846 Jane Smith 36 Coventry, Warwickshire, England abt 1825 Jane Smith 2 Coventry St John abt 1859 Joseph Smith 38 Coventry, Warwickshire, England abt 1823 Joseph Smith 17 Coventry, Warwickshire, England abt 1844 Poley Smith 8 Coventry, Warwickshire, England abt 1853 Susan Smith 9 Coventry, Warwickshire, England abt 1852 Tome Smith 20 Coventry, Warwickshire, England abt 1841 Worlter Smith 4 Coventry St John abt 1857 Off hand I would say Poley - Polly, Tome - Tommy, Worlter - Walter. But will need to look at the image and then perhaps locate in the 1871. The enumerator has written son and then crossed it through and added DAUG for Worlter. Jane Smith, was orignally down as son then crossed through and DAUG written above this. ********************************************************* 1871 Struggling to find them ....

Hi Pen Glad to hear your keeping well and so busy too, lt'll keep you out of mischief lol. Thanks so much for the look up on Lydia it's a great help. Lydia is the daughter of one of my Powney's so it's good to know where she vanished to. Thanks again Keep well Best wishes Pam

Hi again Pen Please could I trouble you for a llok up on the 1861 census for two families please. Hannah and James Weedon, Hannah born about 1822. Sarah and Thomas Snoxell, Sarah was born about 1826. Both girls were born in Luton in Bedfordshire and I think you should find them there still. Very many thanks Pen Wendy x

Added by Pam Logan-Powney on 15/08/2006 14:22:34 Hi Pen Hope your well Please can you do a couple of 1901 look ups for me of the same family Lydia Wardle c1875 Denbigh Moss should be with husband Joseph in Wrexham Regis. Wales. Thomas Hopson c1863/4Dudley.W.Midlands possible wife Sarah Ann / Sarah Joseph Hopson c1878 Denbigh Moss with possible wife Elizabeth William c1869 Denbigh Moss l think they are all around Wrexham area. Thanks in advance Pen Kind regards Pam **************************************************** Hi Pam Thanks x I'm keeping very well. Loads on at the mo, busy,busy,busy.....love it x 1901 in 1901: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875 Relation: Wife Spouses's Name: Joseph Gender: Female Where born: Moss, Denbighshire, Wales Civil parish: Wrexham Regis Ecclesiastical parish: St Giles and St Mark Town: Wrexham County/Island: Denbighshire Country: Wales Street address: View image Condition as to marriage: View image Education: View image Employment status: View image Occupation: View image Registration district: Wrexham Sub-registration district: Wrexham ED, institution, or vessel: 40 Household schedule number: 149 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Wardle 30 Wrexham, Denbighshire, Wales abt 1871 head Lyava Wardle 26 Moss, Denbighshire, Wales abt 1875 Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 5225; Folio: 102; Page: 28. Address - 7 Brewery Street, Isle of man Occupation - Hawker Unable to spot the other two families Pen x