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Mike 1891- 4 F......... rd George Butler abt 1866 Plumstead, Kent, England Lodger St Margaret Suffolk TRAVELLER (TIMBER MERCHANTS) Elizabeth Webb abt 1836 Ramsey, Isle of Man, Isle of Man Head St Margaret Suffolk 1901 - OXFORD RD Frank H Butler abt 1896 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Son Mistley Essex George W Butler abt 1866 Plumstead, Kent, England Head Mistley Essex COMMERCIAL TRAVELLER Mary Butler abt 1866 Blandford, Dorset, England Wife Mistley Essex Richard G Butler abt 1900 Manningtree, Essex, England Son Mistley Essex Winifred M Butler abt 1898 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Daughter Mistley Essex Mary E Hunnable abt 1881 Lawford, Essex, England Servant Mistley Essex 1891 - 42 berners st Charles R Betty abt 1886 Cotesbach, Leicestershire, England Nephew St Matthew Suffolk Charles A Butler abt 1871 Manningtree, Essex, England Son St Matthew Suffolk CLERK TO TIMBER MERCHANT Elizabeth M Butler abt 1877 Mistley, Essex, England Daughter St Matthew Suffolk Ellen M Butler abt 1872 Manningtree, Essex, England Daughter St Matthew Suffolk Emily Butler abt 1868 Manningtree, Essex, England Daughter St Matthew Suffolk Gertrude E Butler abt 1876 Manningtree, Essex, England Daughter St Matthew Suffolk Henry Butler abt 1874 Manningtree, Essex, England Son St Matthew Suffolk Joseph R Butler abt 1841 Woolwich, Kent, England Head St Matthew Suffolk TIMBER MERCHANT Mary A Butler abt 1842 Swindon, Wiltshire, England Wife St Matthew Suffolk Maud M Chambers abt 1870 Eye, Suffolk, England Servant St Matthew Suffolk Charlotte Partridge abt 1868 St Osyth, Essex, England Servant St Matthew Suffolk 1901 - NEW RD Charles Butler abt 1870 Manningtree, Essex, England Head Mistley Essex MANAGER TIMBER TRADE Charles R Butler abt 1898 Mistley, Essex, England Son Mistley Essex Eleanor M Butler abt 1900 Mistley, Essex, England Daughter Mistley Essex Mary Butler abt 1873 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Wife Mistley Essex Maud Humphery abt 1884 Ardleigh, Essex, England Servant Mistley E

Hello Jane, Thank you so very much for those. Well done!! Finding her with her Mum and niece and getting the initials of their second name helps so much. Fantastic!!! Could you pretty please look up in the 1901 census Alice who by that time had married. They did marry in Cambridge. Alice E Adams b 1875 Limehouse, London Albert Edward Adams 1868 Long Stanton, Cambridge Thank you so very much Liz x

Hello Jane, can you look on 1891 and 1901 census for George Butler born 1866 Plumstead Kent and Charles Butler born 1871 in Manningtree Essex please. Regards Mike

That's them Jane.. brilliant Thank you so much for your help. Regards Ann

Ann 1871 - crowhall lane Christopher Carruthers abt 1857 Heworth, Durham, England Son Heworth Durham Hannah Carruthers abt 1824 Whitfield, Northumberland, England Wife Heworth Durham Jacob Carruthers abt 1823 Sowerby, Cumberland, England Head Heworth CHEMICAL LABR Robert Reay abt 1864 Heworth, Durham, England Grandson Heworth Durham William Reay abt 1852 Lamesley, Durham, England Stepson Heworth Durham

Allan this might answer where she was born................. Births Jun 1881 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BLACK Mary Skinner Poplar 1c 708 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Dec 1900 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Black Mary Skinner Newcastle T. 10b 113 but can find no trace of them in the census i'm afraid.............

Hi Jane Is it possible you could take a look for a Hannah Carruthers b abt 1823 whitfield northumberland 1871 census please.. she would be living Felling Durham area. and a address if you can Regards Ann

Liz pmsl........ now i have the right names....... he he he 1891 The Green Alice E Faith abt 1881 ( says age 16 on original !! ) Limehouse Field, London, England Daughter Histon Cambridgeshire Emily Faith abt 1844 Waterbeach, Cambridgeshire, England Head Histon Cambridgeshire MARRIED Emily A Faith abt 1883 Limehouse Field, London, England Daughter Histon Cambridgeshire Also gives Alice & Emily Jnrs surname as Stokes on original too !!!!!!!!!! 1901- impingden (?) lane Emily Faith abt 1845 Waterbeach, Cambridgeshire, England Daughter Histon Cambridgeshire WIDOW Blanch Field abt 1886 Histon, Cambridgeshire, England Granddaughter Histon Cambridgeshire Martha Field abt 1825 Waterbeach, Cambridgeshire, England Head Histon Cambridgeshire WIDOW Jane x

Hey Jane, Thank you so much for trying so hard. I had a look and yes it appears William died in 1883 so who I am looking for now in the 1891 and 1901 is: Emily Faith b 1843 Waterbeach, Cambridgeshire George Faith ? I am hoping that Alice will be there too Thank you Liz x

Hi Sam think this might be who you're looking for: 1901- 79 Cheapside Elizabeth A Pickering abt 1879 Edwinstowe, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Worksop Nottinghamshire George Pickering abt 1900 Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England Grandson Worksop Nottinghamshire John Pickering Elizabeth A abt 1877 Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England Son-in-law Worksop Nottinghamshire WOODYARD LABR Samuel W W Pickering abt 1899 Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England Grandson Worksop Nottinghamshire Elizabeth A Wordsworth abt 1861 Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England Wife Worksop Nottinghamshire Samuel Wordsworth abt 1859 Edwinstowe, Nottinghamshire, England Head Worksop Nottinghamshire ESTATE WOODMAN Winifred V Wordsworth abt 1892 Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England Adopted Daughter Worksop Nottinghamshire

Hi Liz think i've failed............ miserably, lol can't find any of them in either year! 1. are they still alive? 2. could Alice be married by then? 3. could William have died & Emily remarried as you can see am clutching at straws now, lol Jx

Hi Jane, Could you please look up George Pickering b. 1900 Worksop, notts. His father possibly Samuel/ Sam. his brothers were Samuel, William and Stanley ( not sure when they were born so they might not be one there.) Cheers Sam.

Hi again Jane, Could you please look up in the 1891 and 1901 census William Stokes b ca 1842 Cambridge, Cambridgeshire Emily Stokes b 1843 Waterbeach Cambridgeshire Alice Stokes b ca 1875 London Middlesex in the 1881 census they are living in St Anne Soho Thank you so much Liz x

Carl 1841 Castle? precincts Solomon Britton abt 1821 St Woollos Monmouthshire WHEEL WRIGHT Juen Jones abt 1756 St Woollos Monmouthshire Gazarus Roberts abt 1821 St Woollos Monmouthshire 1851 - BRICK YARD COTTAGE Mary Britton abt 1832 Risca, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Risca Monmouthshire Salamon Brittonabt 1827 St George, Gloucestershire, England Son-in-law Risca Monmouthshire COAL MINER Sarah Price abt 1788 Bitton, Gloucestershire, England Head Risca Monmouthshire Robert Britton abt 1837 St George, Gloucestershire, England Servant Risca Monmouthshire

Denis your question- Trying to find my g/g/grandfathers family, he was John Telling b1825 Ashbrook my grandfather John Telling b 1860 Ashbrook my father Edward Raymond John Tilling b1900,Maisey Hampton, the name changed 1891 census l have hit a brick wall any help please regads Denis Tilling in New Zealand, 1841 Ann Telling abt 1791 NOT BN IN CNTY Ampney St Mary Gloucestershire Henry Telling abt 1829 Gloucestershire, England Ampney St Mary Gloucestershire Isaac Telling abt 1796 Gloucestershire, England Ampney St Mary Gloucestershire AG LAB John Telling abt 1826 Gloucestershire, England Ampney St Mary Gloucestershire BUT according to 1851 Ann is born in Gloucestershire !!! Sarah Taylor abt 1788 Ashley, Gloucestershire, England Lodger Ampney St Mary Gloucestershire Ann Telling abt 1788 Kemble, Gloucestershire, England Wife Ampney St Mary Gloucestershire Isaac Telling abt 1790 Ampney St Mary, Gloucestershire, England Head Ampney St Mary Gloucestershire 2 doors away is: Maria Telling abt 1828 Filkins, Oxfordshire, England Wife Ampney St Mary Gloucestershire Sarah Telling abt 1825 Ampney Mary, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Ampney St Mary G **Henry Telling abt 1828 Ampney Mary, Gloucestershire, England Son-in-law Ampney St Mary Gloucestershire Thomas Cook abt 1786 Harton, Wiltshire, England Head Ampney St Mary Gloucestershire

Tracy having doubled checked my post to you regarding this Brennans to refresh my memory, i had posted at the bottom of all the census lists that i was unable to find them in 1851, sorry Jx

Hi Jane, You are a gem!!! Thank you so very very much for finding all of those, you have helped me enormously. Now I have some work to do. Very much appreciated Liz xx

Hey Liz....... 1851 - 4 Inn(?) court Benjn Collins abt 1791 Cheveley, Cambridgeshire, England Workman St Peter Cornhill Middlesex Mary Evans abt 1804 Wales, Alingingal, Warwickshire, England Housekeeper St Peter Cornhill Middlesex Andw Milroy abt 1827 Arnswell Hill, Middlesex, England Nephew St Peter Cornhill Middlesex SADLER William Milroy abt 1805 London, England Head St Peter Cornhill Middlesex SADLER Thos Price abt 1829 Eardlis, Herefordshire, England Porter St Peter Cornhill Midd 1861- 14 Beaufoy terrace Anne Dudgeon abt 1841 Exeter, Devon, England Sister-in-law St Marylebone Middlesex Daniel Dudgeon abt 1806 Ireland Father-in-law St Marylebone Middlesex Jemima Dudgeon abt 1804 Exeter, Devon, England Mother-in-law St Marylebone Middlesex Andrew Milroy abt 1827 Muswell Hill, Middlesex, England Head St Marylebone Middlesex Eleanor Milroy abt 1833 Topsham, Devon, England Wife St Marylebone Middlesex Emma Rick abt 1837 Purtin, Wiltshire, England Servant St Marylebone Middlesex Eliza Wheeler abt 1837 Swafford, Oxfordshire, England Servant St Marylebone 1871 - 2 Queensborough terrace Elizabeth Hughes abt 1838 St Mastins, Shropshire, England Servant Paddington London Eliza Lacey abt 1846 Vauxhall, Surrey, England Servant Paddington London Louisa Maidment abt 1848 East Knoyle, Wiltshire, England Servant Paddington London Andrew Milroy abt 1827 Muswell Hill, Middlesex, England Head Paddington London Eleanor Milroy abt 1833 Topsham, Devon, England Wife Paddington London Amelia Pope abt 1841 Bow, Devon, England Servant Paddington London 1851 - 1 Holley terr. Mary Condnit abt 1821 Rotherby, Leicestershire, England Servant St Pancras Middlesex Ann Erth abt 1822 St Janerss, Middlesex, England Servant St Pancras Middlesex Andrew Kargh Milroy abt 1795 St Giles, Middlesex, England Head St Pancras Middlesex Ann Milroy abt 1802 Garrick Hill Wife St Pancras Middlesex 1861- 1 Holley terrace Mary James abt 1835 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Servant St Pancras Middlesex Andrew Milroy abt 1796 George Yd Lombark St Head St Pancras Middlesex Ann Milroy abt 1802 Hill London, Yorkshire, England Wife St Pancras Middlesex Caroline Pepper abt 1832 Wantage, Berkshire, England Servant St Pancras Midd I did take up the 1841 challenge, but failed miserably i'm afraid....... took me long enough to get Andrew jnr in 1851 !!!! speak to you soon Jane

Hi Jane, Could you look up the following family in the 1851, 1861 & 1871 census please. If you would like a challenge you can try to pick them up in the 1841 - I would be so delighted. lol :o}}}}} Andrew H Milroy b 1795 Oxfordshire? Ann Milroy b ca 1802 Yorkshire Andrew R M T Milroy b ca 1826 Middlesex Thanks a million Liz x

Tracy is this him? 1891 - royston hill Clara Brack abt 1870 Elsecar, Yorkshire, England Wife Nether Hoyland Yorkshire John E Brack abt 1865 West Hartlepool Head Nether Hoyland Yorkshire COAL MINER John W H Brack abt 1889 Elsecar, Yorkshire, England Son Nether Hoyland Yorkshire Mabel A Brack abt 1890 Elsecar, Yorkshire, England Daughter Nether Hoyland Yorkshire **John W Fletcher abt 1867 Nether Hoyland, Yorkshire, England Brother-in-law Nether Hoyland Yorkshire COAL MINER **William Fletcher abt 1840 Staffordshire, England Father-in-law Nether Hoyland Yorkshire LABR COAL PIT / WIDOW 1881 - St helens st Clara Fletcher abt 1870 Elsecar, Yorkshire, England Daughter Hoyland Nether Yorkshire John W. Fletcher abt 1867 Hoyland, Yorkshire, England Son Hoyland Nether Yorkshire Sarah Fletcher abt 1813 Highfields, Staffordshire, England Mother Hoyland Nether Yorkshire WIDOW Sarah J. Fletcher abt 1865 Elsecar, Yorkshire, England Daughter Hoyland Nether Yorkshire William Fletcher abt 1840 Hallfields, Staffordshire, England Head Hoyland Nether Yorkshire WIDOW / IRON WORKER 1871 - ST HELENS ST Alathea Fletcher abt 1846 Jump, Yorkshire, England Daughter-in-law Nether Hoyland Yorkshire Clara Fletcher abt 1870 Elsecar, Yorkshire, England Granddaughter Nether Hoyland Yorkshire John Fletcher abt 1816 Hall Green, Staffordshire, England Head Nether Hoyland Yorkshire IRON WORKER John W Fletcher abt 1867 Hoylands, Yorkshire, England Grandson Nether Hoyland Yorkshire Sarah Fletcher abt 1816 Highfields, Staffordshire, England Wife Nether Hoyland Yorkshire Sarah Fletcher abt 1845 Hall Fields, Staffordshire, England Daughter Nether Hoyland Yorkshire Sarah J Fletcher abt 1865 Stubbin, Yorkshire, England Granddaughter Nether Hoyland Yorkshire William Fletcher,abt 1841 Highfields, Staffordshire, England Son Nether Hoyland Yorkshire 1861- DAPFIELDS SQUARE Eliza Fletcher abt 1845 Bilston, Staffordshire, England Daughter Sedgley Staffordshire John Fletcher abt 1816 Sedgley, Staffordshire, England Head Sedgley Staffordshire John Fletcher abt 1854 Sedgley, Staffordshire, England Son Sedgley Staffordshire Sarah E Fletcher abt 1821 Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England Wife Sedgley Staffordshire William Fletcher abt 1841 Bilston, Staffordshire, England Son Sedgley Staffs Mary Hawks abt 1811 Manchester, Lancashire, England Visitor Sedgley Staffordshire Deaths Jun 1872 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fletcher Alathea 26 Sheffield 9c 232 Jane