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HI this is great! Am after more info on William Vickery/Vicary born c1832 Old Cleeve Somerset - could you look up on 1841 census please - any info on his family specially parents would be much appreciated. thanks Janette

Thanks very much for your hard work on Simeon Brown (thread 6). I've been on the web site 'Findmypast' and there's (wait for it!) a Simeon Brown b.1893 living in Basford, Nottingham but because i'm not registered with that site, I can't find out about our mystery man. Any help would be appreciated. Regards Rita x

Hi Jane, could you please look for Thomas London born c1839 in Shoreditch/Finsbury on the 1841 and 1851 census? His parents were Eliza Rose and Thomas London. If you are able to send me the image of the page please let me know. Thank you, very appreciated. Peter

Rita GOT HIM............ when you see the spellings you will realise why it took me so long !! 2 clifford rd Annie Brown abt 1885 Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Nottingham Nottinghamshire George Brown abt 1887 Nottinghamshire, England Son Nottingham Nottinghamshire Gertrude Brown abt 1882 Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Nottingham Nottinghamshire Grace Brown abt 1889 Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Nottingham Nottinghamshire ***Semion Brown abt 1893 Nottinghamshire, England Son Nottingham Nottinghamshire Simion Brown abt 1844 Nottinghamshire, England Head Nottingham Nottinghamshire FURNITURE PAINTER?? Jane x

Gloria am afraid the ref no. you gave me isn't working and i can't find them so they might be mistranscribed, so will you be able to point me in the direction of which county they are in please, geography is not my strong point, lol thanks Jane

Janette is this him??? 1841 pancras? George Vickery abt 1835 Somerset, England Old Cleeve Somerset Robert Vickery abt 1826 Somerset, England Old Cleeve Somerset Sarah Vickery abt 1830 Somerset, England Old Cleeve Somerset Susan Vickery abt 1796 Somerset, England Old Cleeve Somerset AG LAB ***William Vickery abt 1832 Somerset, England Old Cleeve Somerset

Peter possible for 1841 Elizth London abt 1821 Middlesex, England St Leonard Shoreditch Middlesex Thos London abt 1840 Middlesex, England St Leonard Shoreditch Middlesex but can't find him in 1851 with the parents you name, are they still alive in 1851 do you know? there is a nephew though, with the following family: Charles Brisson 13 John Brisson 37 John Brisson 3 Mary Brisson 35 Mary Brisson 7 Mo Rebecca Brisson 8 Sarah Brisson 10 Sophia Brisson 6 John Harris 2 Sarah Harris 40 ***Thos London 11 if you send me a pm with your email address i can send you the originals , if they are the right ones......... Jane

Simeon indeed! Thanks for your brilliant help you're a star. Thanks very much for all your help! Rita X

Hi Jane, Re the Law family on 1841 census, they would have been in London possible Middlesex. I know that Maria Law age 3 in 1841 was born in Aldgate London. Many thanks, Gloria

I'm hoping you'd be able to just do ONE MORE look up for me, if poss - you might've guessed, Simion Brown b. 1844 Nottinghamshire (Furniture Painter). I'd like to find out where he fits into our own tree! Best regards Rita x

Sorry, but I've lost the last thread (6?). I was asking if you were able to look into Simion Brown b.1844 in Nottingham; I'd like to find how he was linked to us! 2 clifford rd Annie Brown abt 1885 Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Nottingham Nottinghamshire George Brown abt 1887 Nottinghamshire, England Son Nottingham Nottinghamshire Gertrude Brown abt 1882 Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Nottingham Nottinghamshire Grace Brown abt 1889 Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Nottingham Nottinghamshire ***Semion Brown abt 1893 Nottinghamshire, England Son Nottingham Nottinghamshire Simion Brown abt 1844 Nottinghamshire, England Head Nottingham Nottinghamshire FURNITURE PAINTER?? Rita x

Rita i am a little confused..................doesn't take much, believe me ! you asked how the Simion Brown 1844 was connected to your family..... he is your Simeon brown's (1893) father.................. but am willing to look him up before 1901 if that is what you mean... lol Jane 1891 2 Goodliffe yd Semion Brown abt 1844 Nottinghamshire, England Lodger St Peter Nottinghamshire PAINTER Albert Jackson abt 1887 Nottinghamshire, England Son St Peter Nottinghamshire Annie Jackson abt 1885 Nottinghamshire, England Daughter St Peter Nottinghamshire Fanny Jackson abt 1878 Nottinghamshire, England Daughter St Peter Nottinghamshire Frances Jackson abt 1852 Repton, Derbyshire, England Head St Peter Nottinghamshire George Jackson abt 1887 Nottinghamshire, England Son St Peter Nottinghamshire Gertrude Jackson abt 1882 Nottinghamshire, England Daughter St Peter Nottinghamshire Grace Jackson abt 1889 Nottinghamshire, England Daughter St Peter Nottinghamshire John Jackson abt 1874 Repton, Derbyshire, England Son St Peter 1881 - OOOOOOOOOOHHH interesting, lol 34 Margate st Simon Brown abt 1844 Radford, Nottinghamshire, England Head Radford Nottinghamshire DRAYMAN Albert Brown Jackson abt 1880 Nottinghamshire, England Lodger's Son Radford Nottinghamshire Fanny Jackson abt 1852 Derbyshire, England Lodger Radford Nottinghamshire Fanny Brown Jackson abt 1877 Derbyshire, England Lodger's Daughter Radford Nottinghamshire John Brown Jackson abt 1874 Derbyshire, England Lodger's Son Radford Nottinghamshire 1871 43 Talbot yd Arthur Brown abt 1870 Derbyshire, England Grandson St Mary Nottinghamshire Eliza Brown abt 1846 Newark, Nottinghamshire, England Wife St Mary Nottinghamshire Fanny Brown abt 1817 Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Wife St Mary Nottinghamshire George Brown abt 1853 Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Son St Mary Nottinghamshire Grace Brown abt 1857 Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter St Mary Nottinghamshire John Brown abt 1868 Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Grandson St Mary Nottinghamshire Joseph Brown abt 1807 Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England Head St Mary Nottinghamshire Joseph Brown abt 1865 Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Grandson St Mary Nottinghamshire Joseph Henry Brown abt 1839 Radford, Nottinghamshire, England Son St Mary Nottinghamshire Mary Brown abt 1841 Cork, Ireland Wife St Mary Nottinghamshire Simon Brown abt 1844 Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Son St Mary Nottinghamshire GROOM Mary Ada Frost abt 1860 Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Niece St Mary Nottinghamshire can't work out who belongs to who on original either, lol 1861 Regent st Simeon Brown abt 1844 Nottinghamshire, England Servant St Mary Nottinghamshire ERRAND BOY 1851 2 Malt ct, Agness Brown abt 1847 Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Nottingham St Mary Nottinghamshire Albert Brown abt 1850 Nottinghamshire, England Son Nottingham St Mary Nottinghamshire Arthur Brown abt 1842 St Snenton, Nottinghamshire, England Son Nottingham St Mary Nottinghamshire Fanny Brown abt 1816 Nottinghamshire, England Wife Nottingham St Mary Nottinghamshire Jno Brown abt 1837 Radford, Nottinghamshire, England Son Nottingham St Mary Nottinghamshire Joseph Brown abt 1807 Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England Head Nottingham St Mary Nottinghamshire FRAMEWORK KNITTER Joseph Brown abt 1839 Radford, Nottinghamshire, England Son Nottingham St Mary Nottinghamshire Simeon Brown abt 1844 Nottinghamshire, England Son Nottingham St Mary Nottinghamshire Mary Devony abt 1837 Castle Luca, Ireland Lodger Nottingham St Mary Nottinghamshire

Hi Jane , please may I have a look up, I hope it will be straight forward, (hopefully) anyway here we go... William Barber was aged 11 years in the 1861census, I have found him in the 1881, wonder if you can find him in the 1891 census please I believe he was married to a Elizabeth (weren't they all? lol). also the 1871 would be great if it is straight forward...I have noticed there are two people by this name who were born in Bungay Suffolk round about the same time, which doesn't help, William' parents are Rebecca Chatten and Charles Chatten on the 1861 census, yeah, I know different surname, I know this was William's mother, not to sure about the father....lol....so 1891 and 1871 please, just in case I have lost you...lol.....many thanks ....Lilly

Hi Lily now i know you wanted 1871 & 1891, but seen 1851 first that you never mentioned 1851 Plough st Rebecca Barber abt 1830 St Cross, Suffolk, England Bungay Holy Trinity Suffolk William Barber abt 1850 Bungay, Suffolk, England Son Bungay Holy Trinity Suffolk Charles Chatten abt 1830 Bungay, Suffolk, England Head Bungay Holy Trinity Suffolk still working on other years, lol

many thanks for the 1851 jane, just opened a can of worms at the same time lol.....Charles and Rebecca weren't married until the 25th Dec 1851, so 'single mum' here I think, I wonder who the father was hmmm lol....look forward to the other census, thanks again.....Lilly. I can feel the cheque book coming out for a birth cert I think lol.....

Lily got the family in 1871, but no William Gas House Lane Charles Chatten abt 1828 Bungay, Suffolk, England Head Bungay Holy Trinity Suffolk Rebecca Chatten abt 1832 South Elmham, Suffolk, England Wife Bungay Holy Trinity Suffolk Charles Chatten abt 1854 Bungay, Suffolk, England Son Bungay Holy Trinity Suffolk James Chatten abt 1858 Bungay, Suffolk, England Son Bungay Holy Trinity Suffolk Pleasance Chatten abt 1869 Bungay, Suffolk, England Daughter Bungay Holy Trinity Suffolk Robert Chatten abt 1862 Bungay, Suffolk, England Son Bungay Holy Trinity Suffolk Sophia Chatten abt 1865 Bungay, Suffolk, England Daughter Bungay Holy Trinity Suffolk 1891 Winfield st Charles Challon abt 1825 Bungay, Suffolk, England Head Holy Trinity Suffolk Rebecca Challon abt 1831 St Cross, Suffolk, England Wife Holy Trinity Suffolk

Many thanks for that Jane, I wonder where William was?, as he would have been about 21 by 1871, and most properly would have left home by then, thanks for the inform, very useful. I will have to have a think...lol....Lilly

Hi Jane, Thanks for your work on Thread 5. After liasing with my two new found relatives, I have a couple of searches I would like you to do if possible. 1841 English Census Any families with the surname GILES living in HEYTESBURY, WILTSHIRE. I am looking specifically for Emma Giles or Emma D Giles who would be about 20 years old, possibly a father called William, mother called Ann/e but any Giles results would be grateful. 1851 English Census Any Giles family from HEYTESBURY, WILTSHIRE but don't look for Emma D Giles as she is married to John terrell at this point 1851 English Census Any John, Living with an Emma, with one child called either Emma or Mary (between 3-5 yrs old) with perhaps a second child called Arabella (Less than 3 mths old) living in Wiltshire/Somerset ? Many thanks Paul Beverley

Hi Again Paul, 1841 - only Giles' in Heytesbury Ann Giles abt 1786 Wiltshire, England Heytesbury Wiltshire John Giles abt 1809 Wiltshire, England Heytesbury Wiltshire --------------- High st George Baker abt 1826 Wiltshire, England Warminster Wiltshire Christena Beckel abt 1826 Wiltshire, England Warminster Wiltshire James Dinwridey abt 1826 Warminster Wiltshire ***Emma Giles abt 1821 Wiltshire, England Warminster Wiltshire John Tanner abt 1831 Wiltshire, England Warminster Wiltshire ------------------------------------- 1851 mmmmm interesting with the YOUNG nephew !!! Little London John Giles abt 1808 Heytesbury, Wiltshire, England Head Heytesbury Wiltshire LABR, MARRIED John Young abt 1845 Heytesbury, Wiltshire, England Nephew Heytesbury Wiltshire John Poole abt 1840 Warwickshire, Wiltshire, England Son-in-law Heytesbury Wiltshire No sign of the above Ann in 1851, so presumed deceased as aged about c65 AND GET THE FLAGS OUT, AND THE BIGGEST HUG YOU CAN MANAGE............... I THINK I HAVE GOT THEM IN 1851 !!!! but am i going mad or should their name be Terrell ???? Arabella Young abt 1850 Wincanton, Somerset, England Daughter Wincanton Somerset Emma Young abt 1825 Heytesbury, Wiltshire, England Head Wincanton Somerset Emma Young abt 1848 Warminster, Wiltshire, England Daughter Wincanton Somerset they are in the union workhouse, Emma's status given as married, but no John.................. tell me what you think won't you ! Jx UPDATE throwing a spanner in the works now, lol Marriages Sep 1842 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GILES Emma Warminster 8 579 YOUNG Joel Warminster 8 579 Births Mar 1850 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Young Arabella Wincanton 10 562

Jane . . You superstar !!!! <Paul starts to kneel and lifts his hands up and down in a worshiping sort of movement> Ok . .where do we start ??? 1841 Census for Ann Giles (1786) and John Giles (1809) - This looks a spot on match. Emma D Giles parents look like they were William Giles (1776) and Ann Hains (1786) and their third child of seven was John Giles (1807) so it looks like the mother and child. 1841 High Street - What? Emma Giles is 20 years old and she lives with 3 x 14 year olds and a 10 year old. She sounds like Fagan running a pickpocket ring. How bizarre but what a great spot !!! 1851 Little London - John Giles (1808) looks like the fourth son of William Giles & Ann Hains (or Emma D Giles' older brother) and John Young (1845) must be a child of Joel & Emma perhaps ????? 1851 Union Workshouse - Shivers down my spine !!! This is what Family History is all about. I have chased the Terrell's for years and it looks like Mary was an Emma and a Young and not a Terrell !!! And now that has opened a MASSIVE hornet's nest. Sep 1842 Marriage - Believe it or not but this certificate is ALREADY in the post as the man from Warminister called me today. Now the 1851 census says Emma Young (1848) and Arabella Young (1850) so I have done some searches Births - 1843 O-D Warminster 8-431 Emma Young* 1843 O-D Warminster 8-431 Mary Young* 1848 6 Possible Emma Young Births in Wiltshire but non in Warminster 1848 A-J Warminster 8-478 Arabella Young 1850 J-M Wincanton 10-562 Arabella Young Deaths 1866 O-D Bristol 6a-14 Joel Young (The only death between 1845-1871 that fits the bill and he is 48 that make his birth 1818 which is about right) although a death after a couple of certificates have suggested he is dead 1895 A-J Wincanton 5c-324 John Young (79 yrs old in 1895 would be 1816 Birth which is a couple of years out, a death after a lot of certificates have suggested he is dead plus she would of divorced him to marry John Terrell * = (In case the last digit in 1848 is a three and her birth is the first after the 1842 marriage. Spooky, there is both an Emma & Mary birth on same page !!! I may get the marriage cert on Saturday so i will get back to you to confirm her father is William and therefore Joel is the man Paul x