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Hi Pen Glad you had a good time Yes that's Daniel l was hoping he was on the 71 Just going for my tea be back in 15 mins Regards Pam

Thanks very much Pen!

Added by Julie Potter on 04/01/2007 17:52:24 Hi Pen Could you please look for the Family Kennaway Lillian Kennaway born 1900 Bristol Avon England and her parents Robert Kennaway b1875 Edinburgh,Scotland and Alice Truman b1875 Scotland. I know that Alice had at least 5 siblings born in England. Any info on this family in any of the census welcome and thanks with the help on Potter Family the right one Best wishes Julie *********************************************************************** 1901 census for England This looks like it might be them, mistranscribed.... Name: Lillian C Hannaway Age: 6 months Estimated birth year: abt 1900 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Robert Mother's name: Alice W Gender: Female Where born: Bristol Civil parish: Bristol Ecclesiastical parish: St Agnes County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Registration district: Bristol Sub-registration district: St Paul ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 58 Household Members: Name Age Louisa Bowen 46 Alice W Hannaway 24 abt 1877 Bristol, wife Alice W Hannaway 3 abt 1898 Leith, Midlothian (Edinburgh), Scotland daughter Christina M Hannaway 1 abt 1900 Bristol, daughter Katherine J Hannaway 8 abt 1893 Leith, Midlothian (Edinburgh), Scotland sister Lillian C Hannaway 6 months daughter Robert Hannaway 25 abt 1876 Leith, Midlothian (Edinburgh), Scotland head Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2375; Folio: 127; Page: 10. **************************************************** Have you their marriage cert yet? There are 2 possibles for Alice Trueman on the 1891 census in Bristol - but you will need her marriage cert with her fathers name on to confirm which. Where did the info regarding birthplace for Alice, scotland, come from please? Pen x This is the marriage cert info from the BMD - so they married in England. Have you tried Scotlands People for Robert ? Marriage Name: Alice Winniefred Truman Year of Registration: 1897 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Bristol County: Avon, Gloucestershire Volume: 6a Page: 7 (click to see others on page Name: Robert Kennaway Year of Registration: 1897 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Bristol County: Avon, Gloucestershire Volume: 6a Page: 7 (click to see others on page

Penelope, Thanks for looking. I have had another look at my certificates and I think I have been barking up th wrong tree at some point. I am now going with the marriage cert as I think that is more reliable, and I may have got the wrong birth cert. John Charles Johnson age 29, boot maker, father Thomas Johnson, Dipper, married Elizabeth Boswell age 19, father Richard Boswell, on 7th February 1886 in Birmingham The 1891 census info I have is 1891 census Elizabeth Johnson abt 1867 Birmingham Wife Birmingham Warwickshire Francis A Johnson abt 1890 Birmingham Son Birmingham Warwickshire View Record John Johnson abt 1886 Birmingham Son Birmingham Warwickshire View Record John C Johnson abt 1859 Birmingham Head Birmingham Warwickshire View Record John C Johnson abt 1889 Birmingham Son Birmingham Warwickshire Address: 5 Court, 11 House, Blucher Street Head's occ: Pressman Boot Trade Can you get me any further back from this info. Thanks Alison

Still looking for you Alison x

Hi Pen, Thanks for the offer, please could you see if their is any information 1841 / 1851 for John Roughton (c1832 Kegworth, Leicester) and Hannah Carlin (c1837 Bleak hall, Notts). They married sometime around c1854. And Jediah Riley c1839, son of Mary and Joseph, born Denby, Derbyshire. Many many Thanks Debbie

sorry - you're quite right - it was late at night here and I had been trawling for hours so wasn't thinking straight... thanks Nick

Debbie Joseph ****************** Added by Debbie Joseph on 04/01/2007 20:45:06 Hi Pen, Thanks for the offer, please could you see if their is any information 1841 / 1851 for John Roughton (c1832 Kegworth, Leicester) and Hannah Carlin (c1837 Bleak hall, Notts). They married sometime around c1854. And Jediah Riley c1839, son of Mary and Joseph, born Denby, Derbyshire. Many many Thanks Debbie ************************ Hi Debbie, there are some Roughton' on the 1841 in Leicester, but no John. Ann Roughton abt 1831 St Margaret With Bishops Fee Leicestershire Emily Roughton abt 1836 St Margaret With Bishops Fee Leicestershire Frances Roughton abt 1835 St Margaret With Bishops Fee Leicestershire James Roughton abt 1796 St Margaret With Bishops Fee Leicestershire Julia Roughton abt 1837 St Margaret With Bishops Fee Leicestershire Mary Roughton abt 1801 Leicestershire, England St Margaret With Bishops Fee Leicestershire Mary Roughton abt 1832 St Margaret With Bishops Fee Leicestershire ******************************************************* Two possibles on the 1851 census for Hannah - Name: Hannah Carlin Age: 13 Estimated birth year: abt 1838 Relation: Daughter Father's name: William Mother's name: Elizabeth Gender: Female Where born: Eastwood, Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish: Eastwood County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Registration district: Basford Sub-registration district: Greasley ED, institution, or vessel: 6a Household schedule number: 3 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2125; Folio: 325; Page: 1; GSU roll: 87755. ************************* Name: Hannah Carlin Age: 13 Estimated birth year: abt 1838 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Benjamin Gender: Female Where born: Greasley, Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish: Greasley County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Registration district: Basford Sub-registration district: Greasley ED, institution, or vessel: 5e Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 48 Household Members: Name Age Benjamin Carlin 45 George Carlin 11 Hannah Carlin 13 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2125; Folio: 248; Page: 12; GSU roll: 87755. ******************************************************** Do you have them on the 1861 census? If yes can you supply the details please. Cheers pen x Can't spot their marriage yet ******************************************************** 2nd look up 1841 census Hannah Larey abt 1828 Derbyshire, England Barrow Upon Trent Derbyshire Caroline Riley abt 1837 Derbyshire, England Barrow Upon Trent Derbyshire Jederah Riley abt 1840 Derbyshire, England Barrow Upon Trent Derbyshire Joseph Riley abt 1803 Derbyshire, England Barrow Upon Trent Derbyshire Mary Riley abt 1803 Derbyshire, England Barrow Upon Trent Derbyshire Name: Jederah Riley Age: 8 Mo Estimated birth year: abt 1840 Household: View other family members Gender: Male Where born: Derbyshire, England Civil parish: Barrow Upon Trent Hundred: Morlestone and Litchurch County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Source information: HO107/188/12 Registration district: Belper Sub-registration district: Horsley ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Folio: 25 Page: 17 (click to see others on page) Line number: 11 GSU Number: 241292 ****************************************************** 1851 census Name: Jedidiah Riley Age: 11 Estimated birth year: abt 1840 Relation: Son Father's name: Joseph Mother's name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Denby, Derbyshire, England Civil parish: Denby County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Registration district: Belper Sub-registration district: Duffield ED, institution, or vessel: 8b Household schedule number: 51 Household Members: Name Age Hannah Lacy 23 abt 1828 Wifes Daur (Step Daughter Caroline Riley 14 abt 1837 daughter Denby, Derbyshire, England Hiram Riley 5 abt 1847 Denby, Derbyshire, England son James Riley 7 abt 1844 Denby, Derbyshire, England daughter Jedidiah Riley 11 Joseph Riley 46 abt 1805 Denby, Derbyshire, Engl head Joseph Riley 10 abt 1841 Denby, Derbyshire, England son Mary Riley 42 abt 1809 Cotrtmanhay, Derbyshire, England wife Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2144; Folio: 421; Page: 14; GSU roll: 87775. Pen x will back this afternoon

Hi Pen, Thankyou ever so much for the info, I do not have John and Hannah on the 1861 census but these were their children as far as i know. Elizabeth c1854, Mary c1856, Emily(Emelia) c1859, Hannah c1860, Charles c1862, Eliza c1865, Arthur c1868(mine), Agnes c1870, Ellen c1873, Sarah c1874, Fanny c1875, Edith c1879. - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1881 census (have deleted the children as took up too much space) Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability John ROUGHTON Head M Male 47 Kegworth, Leicester, England Coal Miner Hannah ROUGHTON Wife M Female 44 Bleak Hall, Nottingham, England Source Information: Dwelling 54 Coupland Pl Census Place Alfreton, Derby, England Family History Library Film 1341817 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 3416 / 92 Page Number 32 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Many Thanks again, Debbie

1881 for my ref Name: John Roughton Age: 47 Estimated birth year: abt 1834 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Hannah Gender: Male Where born: Kegworth, Leicestershire, England Civil parish: Alfreton County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address: 54 Coupland Pl Condition as to marriage: Married Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Coal Miner Registration district: Belper Sub-registration district: Alfreton ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Agnes Roughton 11 abt 1868 Somercotes, Derbyshire, England Son Arthur Roughton 13 Charles Roughton 18 abt 1863 Somercotes, Derbyshire, England Son Edith Roughton 2 Eliza Roughton 16 abt 1865 Somercotes, Derbyshire, England Daughter Ellen Roughton 8 Fanny M. Roughton 6 abt 1875 Somercotes, Derbyshire, England Hannah Roughton 44 John Roughton 47 Sarah H. Roughton 7 Back in a bit....

Hi Pen Thanks for the help, I was told that Alice was born in Scotland but I could not find her either. I dont have the marriage date for Robert or Alice, and dont know what her parents names were. Roberts parents were Robert Kennaway and Margaret Trotter. Thanks again Best wishes Julie

Debbie Joseph ****************** Hi, back again to take a look now, my new chickens arrived and needed settling in etc, then the kids came home from school, then the pigs needed feeding, lol.... Right back to the 1871 .... Name: Charles Roughton Age: 8 Estimated birth year: abt 1863 Relation: Son Father's name: John Mother's name: Hannah Gender: Male Where born: Somercotes, Derbyshire, England Civil parish: Alfreton Ecclesiastical parish: Alfreton Town: Somercotes County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Registration district: Belper Sub-registration district: Alfreton ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Household schedule number: 98 Household Members: Name Age Agnes Roughton 1 abt 1870 Somercotes, Derbyshire, England Daughter Arthur Roughton 3 abt 1868 Somercotes, Derbyshire, England Son Charles Roughton 8 abt 1863 Somercotes, Derbyshire, England Son Eliza Roughton 6 abt 1865 Somercotes, Derbyshire, England Daughter Elizabeth Roughton 16 abt 1855 Clay Cross, Derbyshire, England Dau Emily Roughton 12 abt 1859 Somercotes, Derbyshire, England Daughter Hannah Roughton 24 abt 1847 Bleak Hall, Nottinghamshire, England Wife John Roughton 34 abt 1837 Kefwoott, Derbyshire, England Head Samuel Wharton 43 abt 1828 Green Hill Lane, Derbyshire, England Lodger Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3591; Folio: 14; Page: 19; GSU roll: 839775. The addresss LOOKS like St Coupland Place, 54 Hannahs age reads 34 on the image, not 24, his birthplace ends with worth - Kessworth ? any ideas about derbyshire area? **************************************************** 1861 ...took me a while - such variation in the birthplaces... Name: Elizabeth Roughton Age: 7 Estimated birth year: abt 1854 Relation: Daughter Father's name: John Mother's name: Hannah Gender: Female Where born: Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England Civil parish: Alfreton Ecclesiastical parish: Alfreton County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Registration district: Belper Sub-registration district: Alfreton ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 52 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Roughton 7 abt 1854 Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England Emela Roughton 2 abt 1859 Alfreton, Derbyshire, England Hannah Roughton 24 abt 1837 Kirkby, Nottinghamshire, England Hannah Roughton 5 Mo abt 1860 Alfreton, Derbyshire, England John Roughton 26 abt 1835 Kegeth, Liechtenstein Mary Ann Roughton 5 abt 1856 Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2515; Folio: 45; Page: 9; GSU roll: 542982. ************************************************************************** Not sure but this is the best match on the 1851 census - Name: John Roughton Age: 12 Estimated birth year: abt 1839 Relation: Son Father's name: George Mother's name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Ilkeston, Derbyshire, England Civil parish: Ilkeston Ecclesiastical parish: Cotmanhay and Shipley County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Registration district: Basford Sub-registration district: Ilkeston ED, institution, or vessel: 3b Household schedule number: 38 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Roughton 54 George Roughton 54 John Roughton 12 Mary Roughton 20 Soloman Roughton 18 Thomas Roughton 30 Pen x

Hi Pen, Thankyou ever so much for giving up your time to find the information for me, I really appreciate it. This is mainly for my Dad, as his mother died when he was a year old he has no info on her (other than her name), so getting as much info for him from his father's side will mean a lot to him as it does for me. I really can't thank you enough. Hope you have a good evening and will try not to bother you for a while!!!!!! Debbie ps.... wish i had pigs and chickens.

Bump, anyone want anything ? x

Hi Pen, me again, didn't take me long to request your services again, SORRY.... Would you mind seeing if their is anything for the following: Lily May Price c1885, Amy Price c1883 and Albert Price c1888 I believe their parents were Albert Price c1862 and Elizabeth Lacey c1855. (The children were born around London, Kensington) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And John Hayselden x 2, one born c1821 and his son born c1851(I think they were born/living in Brighton, Sussex Many Thanks Debbie

Hi Pen Would you please search the 1841/51/61 census for Nympsfield, Gloucestershire for a Brooks family. I know that they had a daughter Ann born in 1836 in Nympsfield - Father name Jonah, Mothers name Hannah. Not a lot to go on, but hopefully enough for someone with your experience. after all the questions we keep throwing at you Regards John

Debbie ********** 1901 census Name: Lily Price Age: 16 Estimated birth year: abt 1885 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Albert Mother's name: Elizabeth Gender: Female Where born: Kensington, London, England Civil parish: Fulham Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement Fulham County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Fulham Sub-registration district: North West Fulham ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Household schedule number: 143 Household Members: Name Age Albert Price 39 abt 1862 Kensington, London, England Head Albert Price 13 abt 1888 Fulham, London, England Son Alice Lang Price 26 abt 1875 Burnham, Buckinghamshire, England Daughter Amy Price 18 abt 1883 Kensington, London, England Daughter Elizabeth Price 46 abt 1855 Burnham, Buckinghamshire, England Wife Lily Price 16 abt 1885 Kensington, London, England Daughter Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 56; Folio: 14; Page: 20. Have checked out the image - The daughters name on image looks like it reads Alice Price The address reads - 4 Home Cotts ********* can't make out rest The occupation of the head of house - Gen lab Occupation of Alice - washer laundry Occupation of Amy - packer & sorter laundry Occupation of Lily - Gen Servant domestic **************************************************** 1891 Name: Lilly M Price Age: 6 Estimated birth year: abt 1885 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Albert T Mother's name: Elizabeth Gender: Female Where born: Kensington, London, England Civil parish: Fulham Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Fulham Sub-registration district: Fulham ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Household Members: Name Age Alice E Lacey 19 abt 1872 Burnham, Buckinghamshire, England Stepdaughter Frederick Lacey 3/12 abt 1891 Fulham, London, England Step Grandson (Grandson Albert T Price 27 abt 1864 Kensington, London, England Head Albert T Price 3 abt 1888 Fulham, London, England Son Amy E Price 8 abt 1883 Kensington, London, England Daughter Elizabeth Price 36 abt 1855 Burnham, Buckinghamshire, England Wife Lilly M Price 6 abt 1885 Kensington, London, England Daughter Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 47; Folio 120; Page 5; GSU roll: 6095157. *************************************************** 1881 Name: Albert T. Price Age: 18 Estimated birth year: abt 1863 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Elizth. Father's name: William Mother's name: Mary Ann Gender: Male Where born: Kensington, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Kensington County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 12 Warwick Terrace Condition as to marriage: Married Education: Occupation: Greengrocer Registration district: Kensington Sub-registration district: Brompton ED, institution, or vessel: 25a Household Members: Name Age May Norah 6 abt 1875 Secunderabad, East Indies niece Mary A. Norris 44 Charles W. Parsons 24 abt 1857 Kings Lynn, Norfolk, England boarder Albert T. Price 18 abt 1863 Kensington, Middlesex, England head Elizth. Price 25 abt 1856 Burnham, Buckinghamshire, England wife Mary Ann Price 55 abt 1826 Kensington, Middlesex, England mother William Price 56 abt 1825 Oddington, Oxfordshire, England father Can't spot the daughter, Alice, of Elizabeth Lang/Lacey on the 1881 though......... Here she is 1881 census... Name: Alice Lacey Age: 9 Estimated birth year: abt 1872 Relation: Granddaughter Gender: Female Where born: Burnham, Buckinghamshire, England Civil parish: Burnham County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Street address: Chapel Row Education Registration district: Eton Sub-registration district: Burnham ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Household Members: Name Age James Adaway 48 abt 1833 Burnham, Buckinghamshire, England Head James Adaway 19 abt 1862 Burnham, Buckinghamshire, England Son Mary Ann Adaway 46 abt 1835 Burnham, Buckinghamshire, England Wife Alice Lacey 9 abt 1872 Burnham, Buckinghamshire, England Granddaughter Mary Ann Lacey 11 abt 1870 Burnham, Buckinghamshire, England Granddaughter Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 1461; Folio: 32; Page: 12; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341354. ***PLEASE SEE NEXT MESSAGE ....CONTINUED

CONTINUED FOR DEBBIE message 2 1871 can't spot them at the mo. ****************************************************** 1861 - possible ..... Name: James Hadaway Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1831 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Mary A Gender: Male Where born: Burnham, Buckinghamshire, England Civil parish: Burnham Town: Burnham County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Registration district: Eton Sub-registration district: Burnham ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Household schedule number: 47 Household Members: Name Age Eliza Hadaway 9 abt 1852 Burnham, Buckinghamshire, England Daughter Emma Hadaway 4 abt 1857 Burnham, Buckinghamshire, England Daughter James Hadaway 30 abt 1831 Burnham, Buckinghamshire, England Head Mary A Hadaway 27 abt 1834 Burnham, Buckinghamshire, England Wife Sarah Hadaway 2 abt 1859 Burnham, Buckinghamshire, England Daughter Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 854; Folio: 20; Page: 8; GSU roll: 542711. ****************************************************** This is the marriage for Elizabeth to Albert Thomas Price though - Name: Albert Thomas Price Year of Registration: 1880 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: St Olave Southwark (1837-1901) County: London, Surrey Volume: 1d Page: 392 (click to see others on page) to Name: Elizabeth Lacey Year of Registration: 1880 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: St Olave Southwark (1837-1901) County: London, Surrey Volume: 1d Page: 392 (click to see others on page Pen x

Added by Bruce McLaren on 06/01/2007 17:31:46 Hello Pen Can you look up the New York Passenger Lists for me? I'm trying to find details of Elinor McLaren (born 1919) who I believe went to the USA in about 1945. Many thanks, Bruce *************************************************** Hi, don't know if my sub gives me access to it or not, will take a look now though. Pen x ***UPDATE, thought so but wanted to just check. You need to put a request on this board, records, asking for someone with Ancestry World deluxe mebership to take a look at the record for you. Best of luck Pen x

Pen, you are a star, Thanks again for all the info Debbie