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Everyone I am here, sort of, lol, will post replies this afternoon. Cheers Pen x

Hi Pen could you possibly check findmypast or Ancestry for the following birth I am trying to find some info on 1901 Census about my grandparents but unfortunately I haven’t been very successful. My grandma’s name is Patricia Edith Cassidy and her parents are Edith Abbott & John (or Jack) Cassidy. My nan was born 1936 in Leeds West Yorkshire and had two siblings (that I’m aware of) Sheila & Jack (John). I have not found him on the free BMD site or Ancestry. I think my g.granddad was born in 1897 I have found this information on a free BMD web site but I can’t find anything else. Thank you for any help Sophia

Good Afternoon Penelope, Can you do the following search for 1891 Address: Probably 15 Malt Shovel Yard, Halifax James Beverley (bet. 1861-1863) Emily Beverley (abt. 1864) John Beverley (1883) Henry Beverley? (1886) George Beverley (1888) Thanks Paul

Hello Penelope Wondering if you could help me locate a Thomas Coates on the 1891 census. He was born c1887 in Craghead. His parents George and Grace on the 1901 census he was living in Kyo Durham. The father was a coal miner hence I expect to find them in the Durham area. Thank you. Regards Donna

Hi Pen, Thank you for your kind offer. Wondering if you would please have a look on 1891 & 1901 for my husbands Grandfather- ASCOTT HOLDSWORTH. I have only been able to find one birth on Ancestry for an Ascott Holdsworth & it said he was born in Halifax oct/nov/dec 1890, so I think this must be the correct one. Many thanks for any help/advice you can give me Pen, With Regards Katherine

Hi Pen Thats fantastic, thank you very much for for taking the time to look over the census years for me, its very much appreciated. Tracey :-)

Hi Pen once again thanks for teh info. Just one query, re Rose Allison b1866 the 1871 Census info you sent starts by saying Rose's dad was called William but then directly underneath it has her dad as Charles??? Also re trhe free BMD at ancestry how do i get that free as can only seem to get access by signing up to a free trial for 14 days leaqving my card details??? You also mentioned getting hiold of Birth Certificates, without sounding really dumb how do i do that , where do i write etc. Sorry for asking so many questions but this tree has me hooked for finding more info. Many thanks again Richard x

Patricia T ************ Hi 1891 This looks like them........ Name: Marian Williams Age: 14 Estimated birth year: abt 1877 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Charles Mother's name: Mary Gender: Female Where born: East Looe, Cornwall, England Civil parish: West Looe Ecclesiastical parish: East and West Looe Town: West Looe County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Registration district: Liskeard Sub-registration district: Looe ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Household Members: Name Age Alfred Williams 18 abt 1873 East Looe, Cornwall, England Son Caroline Williams 28 abt 1863 Devonport, Devon, England Daughter Charles Williams 55 abt 1836 Devonport, Devon, England Head Marian Williams 14 abt 1877 East Looe, Cornwall, England Daughter Mary Williams 56 abt 1835 Devonport, Devon, England Wife Richard Williams 25 abt 1866 Charmouth, Dorset, England Son Thomas Williams 20 abt 1871 East Looe, Cornwall, England Son Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1812; Folio 76; Page 13; GSU roll: 6096922. Pen x

Anne Freestone ******************* Hi Pen, Would like a 1891 lookup please, wondering if they had the same parents, and just a mistake in the spelling of the surnames Mary STARKEY b Jan 1882 - Cockermouth Thomas STARKIE b Jan 1882 - Cockermouth My many thanks, Anne ************************** Hi Anne 1891 census Name: Mary Starkie Age: 9 Estimated birth year: abt 1882 Relation: Daughter Father's name: William Mother's name: Eliz Ann Gender: Female Where born: Cockermouth, Cumberland, England Civil parish: Cockermouth Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Town: Cockermouth County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Registration district: Cockermouth Sub-registration district: Cockermouth ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Household Members: Name Age Eliz Ann Starkie 36 abt 1855 Cockermouth, Cumberland, England Wife Jane Starkie 12 abt 1879 Cockermouth, Cumberland, England Daughter John Starkie 11 abt 1880 Cockermouth, Cumberland, England Son Mary Starkie 9 abt 1882 Cockermouth, Cumberland, England Daughter Thomas Starkie 5 abt 1886 Cockermouth, Cumberland, England Son William Starkie 57 abt 1834 Cockermouth, Cumberland, England Head Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 4301; Folio 34; Page 21; GSU roll: 6099411. ***************************** 1891 Name: Thomas Starkie Age: 9 Estimated birth year: abt 1882 Relation: Son Father's name: Joseph Mother's name: Martha Gender: Male Where born: Cockermouth, Cumberland, England Civil parish: Cockermouth Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Town: Cockermouth County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Registration district: Cockermouth Sub-registration district: Cockermouth ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Household Members: Name Age Abraham Starkie 5 abt 1886 Cockermouth, Cumberland, England Son Florence Starkie 4 abt 1887 Cockermouth, Cumberland, England Daughter George Starkie 22 abt 1869 Cockermouth, Cumberland, England Son Joseph Starkie 51 abt 1840 Cockermouth, Cumberland, England Head Joseph Starkie 18 abt 1873 Cockermouth, Cumberland, England Son Martha Starkie 44 abt 1847 Cockermouth, Cumberland, England Wife Martha Starkie 16 abt 1875 Cockermouth, Cumberland, England Daughter Mary Starkie 24 abt 1867 Cockermouth, Cumberland, England Daughter Ruth Starkie 13 abt 1878 Cockermouth, Cumberland, England Daughter Thomas Starkie 9 abt 1882 Cockermouth, Cumberland, England Son Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 4301; Folio 30; Page 14; GSU roll: 6099411. Pen x

Richard ********* Hi there, not sure if you are aware that you can access the full BMD images and the 1881 census for free at Ancestry. This looks like it could be their marriage - But to be sure you have the CORRECT family you will have to get hold of Charles Hudson's birth cert.Then we can for them on the 1871 and further back. Rose Ann Allison 1886 Apr-May-Jun Glanford Brigg Lincolnshire William Hudson 1886 Apr-May-Jun Glanford Brigg Lincolnshire Name: William Hudson Year of Registration: 1886 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Glanford Brigg County: Lincolnshire Volume: 7a Page: 1445 (click to see others on page) ****************************** Found this birth - Name: Charles William Hudson Year of Registration: 1887 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Glanford Brigg County: Lincolnshire Volume: 7a Page: 690 (click to see others on page) ****************************** 1891 for my ref - birthplaces - Household Members: Name Age Charles W Hudson 3 abt 1888 East Halton, Lincolnshire, England Son Clara Ellen Hudson 1 abt 1890 East Halton, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Rose A Hudson 25 abt 1866 North Killingholme, Lincolnshire, England Wife William Hudson 26 abt 1865 Fosdyke, Lincolnshire, England Head ************************* 1871 Name: Rose A Allison Age: 5 Estimated birth year: abt 1866 Relation: Daughter Father's name: William Gender: Female Where born: Killingholme, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: North Killingholme County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Registration district: Glanford Brigg Sub-registration district: Barton ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Household schedule number: 151 Household Members: Name Age Charles Allison 38 abt 1833 Killingholme, Lincolnshire, England Servant Lucy M Allison 1 abt 1870 Killingholme, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Mary A Allison 30 abt 1841 East Halton, Lincolnshire, England Wife Mary J Allison 4 abt 1867 Killingholme, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Rose A Allison 5 abt 1866 Killingholme, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Charlotte Brocklesby 56 abt 1815 Spridlingthorpe, Lincolnshire, England wife Elizabeth Brocklesby 19 abt 1852 Killingholme, Lincolnshire, England daughter Frederick Brocklesby 11 abt 1860 Killingholme, Lincolnshire, England Son George Brocklesby 13 abt 1858 Killingholme, Lincolnshire, England Son John Brocklesby 21 abt 1850 Habrough, Lincolnshire, England Son Mary Brocklesby 17 abt 1854 Killingholme, Lincolnshire, England Daughter William Brocklesby 59 abt 1812 Appleby, Lincolnshire, England Head William Brocklesby 18 abt 1853 Killingholme, Lincolnshire, England Son Henry Hindsley 19 abt 1852 Goxhill, Lincolnshire, England Servant Herbert M South 3 abt 1868 Killingholme, Lincolnshire, England Grandson ************************* 1871 a possible ..... Name: William Hudson Age: 6 Estimated birth year: abt 1865 Relation: Son Father's name: William Mother's name: Sarah Ann Gender: Male Where born: N F Foot Bank, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: North Forty Foot Bank County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Registration district: Boston Sub-registration district: Swineshead ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Household schedule number: 41 Household Members: Name Age Clara Hudson 4 abt 1867 N F Foot Bank, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Elizabeth Hudson 7 months abt 1870 N F Foot Bank, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Richard Hudson 2 abt 1869 N F Foot Bank, Lincolnshire, England Son Sarah Ann Hudson 30 abt 1841 N F Foot Bank, Lincolnshire, England Wife William Hudson 32 abt 1839 N F Foot Bank, Lincolnshire, England Head William Hudson 6 abt 1865 N F Foot Bank, Lincolnshire, England Son Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3346; Folio: 38; Page: 7; GSU roll: 839356. Pen x

Hi Pen Dont want to be too pushy and use up all your time but was there any ealier information on William Hudson 1865 born Fosdyke for me to follow up that link? Always thought are family were from the Gainsborough area, but obviously we could have moved there from Fosdky which i think is near Boston, right to the south of Lincolnshire. Many anticipated thanks Richard

Tracey Blackmore ********************** 1861 Name: Peter Lyons Age: 48 Estimated birth year: abt 1813 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Ellen Gender: Male Where born: City Clare, Ireland Civil parish: Saffron Hill Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Town: Middlesex County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: Holborn Sub-registration district: Saffron Hill ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Household schedule number: 328 Household Members: Name Age Ellen Lyons 50 abt 1811 Limerick, Ireland Wife Ellen Lyons 12 abt 1849 Middlesex, England Daughter John Lyons 21 abt 1840 Middlesex, England Son Peter Lyons 48 abt 1813 City Clare, Ireland Head Richard Lyons 20 abt 1841 Middlesex, England Son Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 187; Folio: 73; Page: 55; GSU roll: 542588. ******************************************************** 1851 Name: Peter Lyons Age: 40 Estimated birth year: abt 1811 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Ellen Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Civil parish: Saffron Hill Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: Holborn Sub-registration district: Saffron Hill ED, institution, or vessel: 1j Household schedule number: 147 Household Members: Name Age Ellen Lyons 37 abt 1814 Ireland Wife Ellen Lyons 2 abt 1849 St Andrews, Middlesex, England Daughter John Lyons 11 abt 1840 St Andrews, Middlesex, England Son Mary Anne Lyons 15 abt 1836 St Andrews, Middlesex, England Daughter Michael Lyons 10 abt 1841 St Andrews, Middlesex, England Son Peter Lyons 40 abt 1811 Ireland Head Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1515; Folio: 255; Page: 37; GSU roll: 87849. Also on the same page of the census - Anne Lyons abt 1802 Sunderland Head Esther Lyons abt 1829 St Andrews, Middlesex, England Daughter Joseph Lyons abt 1839 Rotcliffe Highway, Middlesex, England and also William Lines abt 1828 Ireland Head John Lines abt 1838 Ireland Visitor Hugh Clark abt 1823 Ireland Visitor ******************************************************** struggling to spot the family on the 1841 census though... 1841 This could be them ...With a heavy accent, it might of been misheard. Ellen Lines abt 1811 Ireland St Andrew Holborn (Above The Bars) Middlesex Henry Lines abt 1837 Middlesex, England St Andrew Holborn (Above The Bars) Middlesex John Lines abt 1839 Middlesex, England St Andrew Holborn (Above The Bars) Middlesex Michael Lines abt 1840 Middlesex, England St Andrew Holborn (Above The Bars) Middlesex Peter Lines abt 1811 Ireland St Andrew Holborn (Above The Bars) Middlesex Name: Peter Lines Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1811 Household: View other family members Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Civil parish: St Andrew Holborn (Above The Bars) Hundred: Ossulstone (Holborn Division) County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Source information: HO107/671/8 Registration district: Holborn Sub-registration district: Saffron Hill ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Folio: 35 Page: 14 (click to see others on page) Line number: 6 GSU Number: 438786 Pen x

Hi Pen many thanks for all of the information. Good starting info as there were so many hudsons within the same locality and couldnt work out who was who. Thank you very much for your time and efforts Richard

Hi Pen I would be grateful if you could find anything on the 1841-1861 census for the following person, im hoping it might be easier as he was born in Ireland: Peter lyons born abt 1813 Ireland living in middlesex. I think he was married to a Ellen also from Ireland but dont know much about him prior to 1869. He later married margaret cameron in 1869 and they had a child daniel cameron born 1870. They were living in finsbury - clerkenwell on the 1871 census if that helps. Anything you could find out i would be grateful for ,Many thanks Tracey :-))

Pam ****** Hi Pam, Yep duff info, lol. Anyway I managed to get there in the end ! The gales were awful here and I soooooo missed my computer and the internet. Take care Pen x

Guardian Angel ******************* Thanks for the offer Pen. 1881 Census - Henry Keates born 1844 or 1836 in Greenwich. Have found him in 1891 (under Reny Keates) living with his wife Ellen born 1849 in Walsall, Staffordshire. In 1901 found them again under the surname Heater with their three children all born in Hoo, Kent. I cannot find them in 1881 or can anyone else find them in 1871, 1861 I haven't asked for an 1881 search as I have access to that census but cannot find a thing, not even when Henry and Ellen married. Both census they were living in St. Mary, Hoo, Kent. Many thanks. ****************************************************** I will give it a try now... lol I know you have this, but it helps me to have it all handy for quick ref - 1881 Name: Reny Keates Age: 48 Estimated birth year: abt 1843 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Ellen Gender: Male Where born: Greenwich, Kent, England Civil parish: St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: St Mary County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: Hoo Sub-registration district: Hoo ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Ellen Keates 44 abt 1847 Where born: Walsall, Staffordshire, England wife Reny Keates 48 abt 1843 Where born: Greenwich, Kent, England head ************************ 1901 Name: Henry Heater Age: 57 Estimated birth year: abt 1844 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Ellen Gender: Male Where born: Greenwich, Kent, England Civil parish: Hoo St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: Hoo St Mary County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: Hoo Sub-registration district: Hoo ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Household schedule number: 8 Household Members: Name Age Ellen Heater 52 abt 1849 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Wife Emily Heater 5 abt 1896 Hoo, St Mary, Kent, England Daughter Henry Heater 57 abt 1844 Greenwich, Kent, England Head Lizzie Heater 8 abt 1893 Hoo, St Mary, Kent, England Daughter William Heater 9 abt 1892 Hoo, St Mary, Kent, England Son Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 722; Folio: 24; Page: 1. ************************

Thanks for the offer Pen. 1881 Census - Henry Keates born 1844 or 1836 in Greenwich. Have found him in 1891 (under Reny Keates) living with his wife Ellen born 1849 in Walsall, Staffordshire. In 1901 found them again under the surname Heater with their three children all born in Hoo, Kent. I cannot find them in 1881 or can anyone else find them in 1871, 1861 I haven't asked for an 1881 search as I have access to that census but cannot find a thing, not even when Henry and Ellen married. Both census they were living in St. Mary, Hoo, Kent. Many thanks.

Thanks Pen for latest information Sorry if I have given you some duff info for you to check. Looks like education was in the family as my g. grandfather was a school teacher and so were sisters Emma and Eveline. Sorry not to get back to you before, I switched comp. off at 4.pm and have only just turned it on again. What a time you must have had in the gales, we only lost a fence panel. Hope things are OK with you now Many thanks again Pamela

Richard Hill ************* Hi Richard From the 1891 census - this is the closest match Name: Charles W Hudson Age: 3 Estimated birth year: abt 1888 Relation: Son Father's name: William Mother's name: Rose A Gender: Male Where born: East Halton, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: East Halton Ecclesiastical parish: East Halton St Peter Town: East Halton County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Registration district: Glanford Brigg Sub-registration district: Barton ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Charles W Hudson 3 abt 1888 East Halton, Lincolnshire, England Son Clara Ellen Hudson 1 abt 1890 East Halton, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Rose A Hudson 25 abt 1866 North Killingholme, Lincolnshire, England Wife William Hudson 26 abt 1865 Fosdyke, Lincolnshire, England Head Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2629; Folio 43; Page 16; GSU roll: 6097739. Have viewed the image - Address - Goods Yard, college road Occupation of head of house - Agricultural labourer ************************* 1901 census Name: Charles Hudson Age: 13 Estimated birth year: abt 1888 Relation: Son Father's name: William Mother's name: Rose Gender: Male Where born: East Halton, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: Thornton Curtis Ecclesiastical parish: St Lawrence Thornton Curtis Town: Thornton Curtis County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Registration district: Glanford Brigg Sub-registration district: Barton ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 42 Household Members: Name Age Charles Hudson 13 AS ABOVE * Elsie Hudson 7 abt 1894 Thornton Curtis, Lincolnshire, England Daughter George Hudson 3 abt 1898 Thornton Curtis, Lincolnshire, England Son Gertrude Hudson 9 abt 1892 East Halton, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Maud Hudson 5 abt 1896 Thornton Curtis, Lincolnshire, England Nellie Hudson 11 abt 1890 East Halton, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Rose Hudson 35 abt 1866 N Killingholme, Lincolnshire, England Wife Walter Hudson 1 abt 1900 Thornton Curtis, Lincolnshire, England Son William Hudson 36 abt 1865 Boston, Lincolnshire, England Head Nellie Winter 19 abt 1882 Where born: East Halton, Lincolnshire, England visitor Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3107; Folio: 57; Page: 8. Have viewed the image - Address - Hall Lane Occupation of head of house - Ord Agri Labourer ******************************************************* 1901 census for Lucy Name: Lucy Leaning Age: 11 Estimated birth year: abt 1890 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Herbert Mother's name: Ada Elizabeth Gender: Female Where born: Alkborough, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: Alkborough Ecclesiastical parish: Alkborough St John the Baptist Town: Alkborough County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Registration district: Glanford Brigg Sub-registration district: Winterton ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Household schedule number: 57 Household Members: Name Age Ada Elizabeth Leaning 37 abt 1864 Winterton, Lincolnshire, England Wife Alfred Leaning 14 abt 1887 Alkborough, Lincolnshire, England Son Beatrice May Leaning 6 abt 1887 Alkborough, Lincolnshire, England Son Charles Ernest Leaning 15 abt 1887 Alkborough, Lincolnshire, England Son Fred Leaning 9 abt 1892 Alkborough, Lincolnshire, England Son Herbert Leaning 39 abt 1862 Thealby, Lincolnshire, England Head Lucy Leaning 11 abt 1890 Alkborough, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Percy Leaning 11 months abt 1900 Alkborough, Lincolnshire, England Son Stanley Leaning 4 abt 1900 Alkborough, Lincolnshire, England Son Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3104; Folio: 52; Page: 9. Have viewed the image - Address - looks like Jerusalem Cottages Occupation of head of household - Ord Agri Lab ****************************************************** 1891 census for Lucy Name: Lucy Leaming Age: 1 Estimated birth year: abt 1890 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Herbert Mother's name: Ada Elizath Gender: Female Where born: Alkborough Civil parish: Alkborough Ecclesiastical parish: Alkborough Town: Alkborough and Walcot County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Registration district: Glanford Brigg Sub-registration district: Winterton ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Household Members: Name Age Ada Elizath Leaming 27 abt 1864 Winterton, Lincolnshire, England Wife Alfred Leaming 4 abt 1864 Winterton, Lincolnshire, England Wife Charles Ernest Leaming 5 abt 1864 Winterton, Lincolnshire, England Wife Herbert Leaming 28 abt 1863 Burton, Lincolnshire, England Head Lucy Leaming 1 abt 1890 Alkborough Daughter Source Citation: Class: RG12; Pi - no address oc of head lab Pen x

Hi Penelope I am searching for definitive answers to my great grandfather ancestry. My great granfather was Charles William Hudson( b1889) born in Gainsborough Lincolnshire. He was marreid to a Lucy Leaning (b 1890) in Alkborough or Thealby in Linconlshire. They married on 17.5.1909 in Primitive Methodist chapel in Scunthorpe. His father was called William and he was a butcher. Any other info which can allow to trace back further would help as i am stuck at the minute. Many many thanks Richard