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Hello Sheila ~ Would you please look up the 1901 census Lincolnshire for: John Golthorp B: 1852/57 Barrow on Humber Elizabeth Ann B: 1865 Alkborought, Linc. Children: Beatrice Elizabeth B: 1890 Florence Virginia B: 1892 Barton upon Humber Charles Lawrence B: 1894 Wilfred Crispin B: 1899 John B: ? Thank you ~ Marna

Thanks for trying Sheila. Margaret

Margaret, I looked for the father Patrick Bray in 1861 and did not find him. I also looked at 1871 with no success. Sheila

Sheila, Didn't realize there wasn't any images. Could you check to see if you can find Patrick for me then? When Mary dies in 1869, she is still married, so I'm sure he's got to be around somewhere. Margaret

Margaret, there are no images on Ancestry Scotland census. If the mother Mary is listed as head there will be no husband. There is no other Patrick Bray with the family on the Index. Sheila

Sheila, Could you please check on something for me on the 1861 census for Scotland.............. I have an image for Patrick Bray age 18 shoemaker in Glasgow (with mother Mary and sister Alice, niece Elizabeth) adults are all born in Ireland. His mother Mary is shown as Married, but also as the Head. Since she is at the top of the page, it is hard to tell who else is in the household. I am looking for a Patrick Bray - he is listed as a Gardener on his son's marriage certificate in 1862. Could you please check to see who is listed on the previous page (I think it would be 5 - my copy is very blurry - and it doesn't have the folio numbers etc) Many thanks. Margaret

Helen, could this be James Hood? 1861 Grace Hood abt 1859 St Nicholas, Aberdeen Daughter Aberdeen St Nicholas Aberdeenshire James Hood abt 1829 St Nicholas, Aberdeen Head Aberdeen St Nicholas Aberdeenshire James Hood abt 1852 St Nicholas, Aberdeen Son Aberdeen St Nicholas Aberdeenshire Jessie Hood abt 1854 St Nicholas, Aberdeen Daughter Aberdeen St Nicholas Aberdeenshire Mary Hood abt 1831 St Nicholas, Aberdeen Wife Aberdeen St Nicholas Aberdeenshire Mary Hood abt 1860 St Nicholas, Aberdeen Daughter Aberdeen St Nicholas Aberdeenshire William Hood abt 1856 St Nicholas, Aberdeen Son Aberdeen Address 100, Green, Aberdeen St,Nicholas Occupation Slater Address in 1851 for Willaim Hood 34, North Broad Ford Occupation Flax Weaver Sheila

Helen, I have found the family in 1851. It looks as if William was a widower. I cannot find him in later census. Sheila 1851 Elisabeth Hood abt 1841 Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire Daughter Old Machar Aberdeenshire Grace Hood abt 1837 Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire Daughter Old Machar Aberdeenshire William Hood abt 1798 London, Ayrshire Head Old Machar Aberdeenshire William Hood abt 1839 Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire Son Old Machar Aberdeenshire

Hi Shelia, THANKS SO MUCH! It looks like them! Thanks again for your hard work. Cheers Rebecca x

Rebecca, I have found the Bailey family in 1891. I have tried to go back. In 1881 both Willaim and Amelia were living away from their families I then looked at 1871. There were two possible entries for the name William Bailey and one for Amelia Taylor.I have also found the marriage for the couple. Amelia Taylor 1882 Jan-Feb-Mar Stourbridge Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands, William Bailey 1882 Jan-Feb-Mar Stourbridge Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands, Worcestershire 1891 Amelia Bailey abt 1862 Quarry Bank, Staffordshire, England Wife Dudley Worcestershire Edward S Bailey abt 1888 Dudley; Woodside, Worcestershire, England Son Dudley Worcestershire Joseph Bailey abt 1890 Dudley; Woodside, Worcestershire, England Son Dudley Worcestershire Noah Bailey abt 1886 Dudley; Woodside, Worcestershire, England Son Dudley Worcestershire William Bailey abt 1862 Dudley; Woodside, Worcestershire, England Head Dudley Worcestershire William Bailey abt 1883 Quarry Bank, Staffordshire, England Son Dudley Worcestershire 1871 Amelia Taylor abt 1865 Lye, Worcestershire, England Daughter Lye Worcestershire Caroline Taylor abt 1834 Lye, Worcestershire, England Wife Lye Worcestershire Felix Taylor abt 1833 Lye, Worcestershire, England Head Lye Worcestershire Frederick Taylor abt 1869 Lye, Worcestershire, England Son Lye Worcestershire Geoe Taylor abt 1860 Lye, Worcestershire, England Son Lye Worcestershire James Taylor abt 1855 Lye, Worcestershire, England Son Lye Worcestershire Wm Taylor abt 1863 Lye, Worcestershire, England Son Lye Worcestershire Abiah Hanes abt 1795 Quarry Bank, Staffordshire, England Mother-in-law Lye Worcestershire -------------------------------------------------------------- Both these Bailety families live in Woodside Charlotte Bailey abt 1835 Dudley, Worcestershire, England Wife Dudley Worcestershire Esther Bailey abt 1868 Dudley, Worcestershire, England Daughter Dudley Worcestershire Joseph Bailey abt 1870 Dudley, Worcestershire, England Son Dudley Worcestershire Mary Ann Bailey abt 1858 Dudley, Worcestershire, England Daughter Dudley Worcestershire Thomas Bailey abt 1839 Dudley, Worcestershire, England Head Dudley Worcestershire Thomas Bailey abt 1866 Dudley, Worcestershire, England Son Dudley Worcestershire William Bailey abt 1864 Dudley, Worcestershire, England Son Dudley Worcestershire ------------------------------------------------------------ Esther Bailey abt 1835 Dudley, Worcestershire, England Wife Dudley Worcestershire Esther Bailey abt 1861 Dudley, Worcestershire, England Daughter Dudley Worcestershire John Bailey abt 1856 Dudley, Worcestershire, England Son Dudley Worcestershire Lucy Bailey abt 1870 Dudley, Worcestershire, England Daughter Dudley Worcestershire Mary Bailey abt 1854 Dudley, Worcestershire, England Daughter Dudley Worcestershire Noah Bailey abt 1866 Dudley, Worcestershire, England Son Dudley Worcestershire Sarah Bailey abt 1859 Dudley, Worcestershire, England Daughter Dudley Worcestershire William Bailey abt 1835 Dudley, Worcestershire, England Head Dudley Worcestershire William Bailey abt 1864 Dudley, Worcestershire, England Son Dudley Worcestershire The second family looks promising because of the name Noah I have not been able to find anything fro Thomas Johnson. Sheila

Carol, i only have FreeBMD which does not cover the period. Sheila

Thanks for looking Sheila - it could be him. It's one of those when it's very difficult to know. Hope all is well with you. Kate

Hi Sheila, I had another dig around in my mum's stuff and this is all the info I know (dates included) WILLIAM BAILEY - abt 1863 WIFE - Amelia (possibly nee Taylor) - abt 1862 - 1936 On the 1901 census they were living at Woodside, Dudley and had the following children: William, Noah, Sidney, Joseph (abt 1890-1975), Ethel (abt 1893-1965), Minnie and Harry. Second person: THOMAS JOSIAH JOHNSON - abt 1872 - Stourbridge area. (Sblings: Albert, issac, Herbert, Josiah, Selina - No dates) WIFE - Louisa Willis - abt 1877 (Sblings: Annie, Mary, Kate, Willie, Ike, Joe - No dates) They had the following children: Elsie May (abt 1898), Thomas, Selina Mary(abt 1904), Josiah (abt 1914), Lilly (abt 1909), Cissie (abt 1911), Gladys (abt 1913), Lavinia and Janet (abt 1917). As I said I need to get further back so an extra info would be greatly appreciated. ;-) Cheers Rebecca

Thanks for looking anyway Sheila, but Stephen was born 1838.not 1818. Mike

Susan, I nearly offered you this 1881 entry for James Conn in previous reply 1881 James Conn Age: 29 Estimated birth year: abt 1852 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Elizebeth Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Registration Number: 651/2 Registration district: New Monkland Landward Civil parish: New Monkland Landward County: Lanarkshire Address: 15 High Riggend Occupation: Coal Miner ED: 5 Page: 25 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 113 Line: 19 Roll: cssct1881_264 Household Members: Name Age Elizebeth Conn 25 Elizebeth Conn 3 James Conn 29 Jane Conn 11 Mos You mentioned that Agnes' mother was Jane. Do you think this is Edward with her? 1861 Edward Moffat Age: 15 Estimated birth year: abt 1846 Relationship: Son Mother's name: Jane Gender: Male Where born: Old Monkland, Lanark Registration Number: 652/2 Registration district: Old Monkland Middle District Civil parish: Old Monkland County: Lanarkshire Address: Black's Land Langloan Occupation: Pudler ED: 12 Page: 25 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 115 Line: 24 Roll: CSSCT1861_118 Household Members: Name Age Mary Mitchell 9 Edward Moffat 15 Jane Moffat 60 John Moffat 24 Thomas Moffat 18 Sheila

Rebecca, do you have any birth details for the children? Sheila

Kate, this is the only entry i could find. 1871 William Bowman Age: 45 Estimated birth year: abt 1826 Relation: Visitor Gender: Male Where born: Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Whitchurch County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Whitchurch Sub-registration district: Whitchurch ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 17 Household Members: Name Age Charles Blandford 52 Rebecca Blandford 54 William Bowman 45 Thomas King 17 George Rymer 27 Ellen Waters 16 He is listed as a 'Farm Servant' Sheila

Mike, I cannot find the Hopkins family. I looked at 1881 and saw that Stephen was b.1818. I have also used the children's details. Sheila

Hi Sheila, I need your help again if you don't mind. I can't get any further back with the following people. WILLIAM BAILEY - abt 1863 WIFE - Amelia (possibly nee Taylor) - abt 1862 On the 1901 census they were living at Woodside, Dudley and had the following children: William, Noah, Sidney, Joseph, Ethel, Minnie and Harry. Second person: THOMAS JOSIAH JOHNSON - abt 1872 - Stourbridge area WIFE - Louisa Willis - abt 1877 They had the following children: Elsie May, Thomas, Selina Mary, Josiah, Lilly, Cissie, Gladys, Lavinia and Janet. As I said I need to get further back so an extra info would be greatly appreciated. ;-) Cheers Rebecca

Hi Sheila, Ok and thanks for your time and efforts, it's much appreciated. thanks again, Lou