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21 Sep 2006 08:08 |
I am trying to trace the family of Anne Thorpe b 1819 m 1843 to Joseph Mousley b 1818. They had several children and I only have the information of one of them William Thorpe Mousley who married Sophia Allday in 1872. They were my G Grandparents
Does anyone have futher information either post this generation or earlier?
Many thanks, Terry Read
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Nicholas
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30 Mar 2018 08:43 |
Terry I see that you don't seem to have had any response to your post, but if you are still interested, I can help you with Joseph Thorp Moseley, born 1845 Brixton Road, Kingsland, Middlesex. He married Clara Jane Marston in Aston, Birmingham, on 2 October 1867. I've traced the family through the censuses from 1851 to 1891 and would be happy to share the info with you. I am not a family member, but JTM was a member of the Birmingham Book Club (founded c1745) which I am researching. JTM was the President from 1896 to 1897 and remained a member until 1899. He then seems to disappear, so any help you could give would be appreciated. Could he have emigrated from the UK to join family members elsewhere? All the best Nick Benbow
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ErikaH
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30 Mar 2018 08:50 |
Nicholas
To try to make contact, click on Terry's name and send a message through GR
If his/her e-mail is still the same as in 2006, GR will advise.
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ErikaH
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30 Mar 2018 08:56 |
Joseph's wife in 1911
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 24 Duchess Road Edgbaston Birmm, Edgbaston, Warwickshire, England
Clara Jane Mousley Head Married Female 64 1847 Birmingham Warwick Boarding House Keeper Transcription Clara Jane Mousley Daughter Single Female 40 1871 Solihull Warwick - Transcription Millicent Victoria Mousley Daughter Single Female 23 1888 Birmingham Warwick - Transcription Egbert Mccallum Day Cousin Single Male 38 1873 Birmingham Warwick Assistant In Business Transcription Gaston Ernesto Detraulle Guest Single Male 18 1893 Valparaiso Assistant In Business Transcription Marco Antonio Fortin Guest Single Male 19 1892 Tegucigalpa Honduras Student Transcription Marguite Alice Coleman Servant Single Female 19 1892 London S E
..........and her death
Mousley Clara J 1847 1933 1933 England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
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30 Mar 2018 09:14 |
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 26, Portland Road, Edgbaston, Kings Norton, Warwickshire, England
Clara J Mousley Wife Married Female 52 1849 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England - Transcription Ida M Mousley Daughter Single Female 26 1875 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England - Transcription Millicent V C Mousley Daughter Single Female 13 1888 Edgbaston, Warwickshire, England - Transcription Louisa G Hughes Servant Single Female 23 1878 Old Park, Shropshire, England General Domestic Transcription
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ArgyllGran
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30 Mar 2018 09:30 |
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Joseph Thorpe Mousley in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995 Name: Joseph Thorpe Mousley [Joseph Thorp] Death Date: 13 Jul 1938 Death Place: Dorsetshire, England Probate Date: 25 Nov 1938 Registry: London, England
MOUSLEY Joseph Thorpe or THORP Joseph of Lyall House, South Court Avenue, Dorchester, Dorsetshire died 13th July 1938 at the Dorset County Hospital, Dorchester. Probate London 25 November to Hannah Thorp widow. Effects £783 10s 2d
Deaths Sep 1938 (>99%) THORP Joseph 96 Dorchester 5a 292
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Marriages Dec 1929 (>99%) Guppy Hannah Thorp Bridport 5a 972 Thorp Joseph Guppy Bridport 5a 972
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ArgyllGran
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30 Mar 2018 09:43 |
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Marriages Jun 1912 (>99%) Day Egbert McC Mousley King's N. 6c 780 Monsley Clara J Day King's N. 6c 780 Mousley Clara J Day King's N. 6c 780
Deaths Sep 1946 (>99%) Day Egbert M 74 Birmingham 9c 410
Births Dec 1872 (>99%) DAY Egbert McCallum Aston 6d 367
EDIT: I had thought that was Joseph's wife remarrying, but of course it's his daughter:
Her birth: MOUSLEY, CLARA JANE mms MARSTON GRO Reference: 1870 S Quarter in JOLIHULL Volume 06D Page 468
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ErikaH
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30 Mar 2018 09:49 |
So Joseph was probably a bigamist...................great find ArgyllGran
His wife died in 1933, as I posted earlier
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30 Mar 2018 09:51 |
1939 Day Household (4 People) 67 Francis Road , Birmingham C.B., Warwickshire, England
Egbert Mccallum Day 26 Aug 1873 Male Traveller Married 161 1 Clara J Day 01 Jun 1871 Female Household Duties Married 161 2 Florence Howarth 02 Feb 1870 Female Household Duties Widowed 161 3 Arthur Howarth 18 Feb 1914 Male Curate At St Marys Ayles ? Single 161 4
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ArgyllGran
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30 Mar 2018 10:00 |
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Joseph Thorp in the 1901 England Census Name: Joseph Thorp Age: 53 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Elizabeth Ann Thorp Birth Place: Brixton, London, England <<<<<<< Civil Parish: Dorchester St Peter Ecclesiastical parish: Dorchester Holy Trinity and Frome Whitfield St Nicholas Town: Dorchester County/Island: Dorset Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Dorchester Sub-registration district: Dorchester ED, institution, or vessel: 08 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2002 Folio: 5 Page Number: 1 Household schedule number: 1 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Thorp 53 - dealer in antique furniture and china Elizabeth Ann Thorp 41 - Birmingham Kate Humphries 15 - servant
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30 Mar 2018 10:03 |
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Joseph Thorp in the 1911 England Census Name: Joseph Thorp Age in 1911: 63 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Brigton, London, England <<<<<<< Civil Parish: Dorchester St Peter County/Island: Dorset Country: England Street address: 62 High West St, Dorchester Marital Status: Married Occupation: Dealer In Autigue Perfumer [ Dealer in antique furniture ] Registration district: Dorchester Registration District Number: 264 Sub-registration district: Dorchester ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Household schedule number: 130A Piece: 12384 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Thorp 63 - married Mary Elizabeth White 24 - servant
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Dea
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30 Mar 2018 10:58 |
This is re Hannah (the 2nd 'wife' !!):
Thorp Household (2 People) 22 South Court Avenue , Dorchester M.B., Dorset, England
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Occupation Hannah Thorp 06 Jun 1877 Unpaid Domestic Duties widow Gillian D (R) Barber 05 Nov 1930 At School
Births Dec 1930 (>99%) Barber Gillian D Guppy Kingston 2a 724
Marriages Sep 1952 (>99%) BARBER Gillian D PUDENZ Middlesex S. 5f 232 Scan available - click to view Pudenz Horst Barber Middlesex S. 5f 232 Scan available - click to view
Marriages Jun 1927 (>99%) Barber Charles D Guppy Bridport 5a 916 Scan available - click to view Guppy Ethel M Barber Bridport 5a 916 Scan available - click to view
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 57 East Street, Bridport, Dorset, England
Learn more Print View image Start free family tree Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation William James Guppy Head Married Male 43 1868 Dorset Bridport Grocer Shopkeeper Transcription Hannah Guppy Wife Married Female 32 1879 Yorkshire Saltburn - Transcription Sidney James Guppy Son - Male 8 1903 Dorset Bridport - Transcription Ethel Margaret Guppy Daughter - Female 7 1904 Dorset Bridport - Transcription Edgar William Guppy Son - Male 5 1906 Dorset Bridport -
Deaths Jun 1924 (>99%) Guppy William J 58 Bridport 5a 380
Marriages Sep 1901 (>99%) Brewin Frederick George Stockton 10a 126 Guppy William James Stockton 10a 126 ******* Hardcastle Emma Stockton 10a 126 ROBINSON Hannah Stockton 10a 126 *******
Results: Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order: GUPPY, ETHEL MARGARET ROBINSON Order GRO Reference: 1904 M Quarter in BRIDPORT Volume 05A Page 347
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Nicholas
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30 Mar 2018 17:11 |
Well, between you, you've made short work of that problem! So Joseph Thorp Mousley became Joseph Thorp on arrival in Dorset, presumably having absconded from Birmingham in 1899 with Elizabeth Ann, his "wife" in the 1901 census. At least he did marry Hannah Guppy nee Robinson, albeit bigamously! Thanks for your help. Nick
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