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Jennifer
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9 Apr 2015 09:22 |
It still doesn't make sense to me.......on the line in my Grandfathers marriage certificate that has his name......Arthur Henry Lee, it has his father as Henry Arthur Lee and mother as Mary Ann Lee and her maiden name as Mary Ann Mackersey. Where does the Annie Amelia Bohee fit in to this. I shall endeavour to obtain my Grandfathers Birth Certificate to see what that shows :-)
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Gritty
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9 Apr 2015 07:37 |
Fabulous work Cherilyn :-D
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Cherilyn
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9 Apr 2015 06:27 |
Immigration to NZ for James BOHEE in 1874 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FSBL-4MD
You can view the original document at above link.
Shows as follows James Bohee, 35, Hampshire, labourer Amelia, 35 Wm, 8 Anne, 6 ***this must be your direct link*** Caroline, 4 George, 2
Then daughter Kate was born in NZ the following year.
Here is their marriage in Hampshire, UK Marriages March qtr 1864 Bohee James Hartley W 2c 209 Bush Amelia Hartley W 2c 209
If you go to FreeBMD you will see births for Wm (1865), Ann (1867), Caroline (1869, as BOHEY) and George (1871), all in Hartley Wintney.
The above marriage cert would help you go further back. :-)
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Cherilyn
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9 Apr 2015 06:03 |
I noticed a George BOHEE death and wondered what the connnection was:
Here it is, from PapersPast: Evening Post, Volume CI, Issue 114, 14 May 1921, Page 1 BOHEE.—In loving memory of our dear brother (George Bohee), who died at Rotorua on the 15th May, 1920. Inserted by K. Knox, Otaki, and A. Moore, Levin.
So Kate KNOX (nee BOHEE) and Annie Amelia LEE then MOORE (nee BOHEE) were sisters, children of James & Amelia.
Their mother Amelia BOHEE remarried in 1882 after James' 1881 death to a William MacKERSEY - apparently in a double wedding with her daughter! Wm was then George, Annie and Kate's stepfather! :-D
P.S. Kate KNOX died in NZ in 1967 aged 92! P.P.S. Archway has George BOHEE's war records and probate.
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Cherilyn
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9 Apr 2015 05:56 |
No idea what this means but check out these marriages from NZ BDMs!!!
1882/1125 Annie Amelia Bohee Henry Arthur Lee
1882/1126 Amelia Bohee William MacKersey
The numbers are consecutive!
Kate BOHEE was born in 1875 to James & Amelia (reg 6014) - no marriage found in NZ. James BOHEE died in 1881 (reg 2621), aged 45. Kate BOHEE married Henry KNOX in 1897
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Valerie
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9 Apr 2015 04:06 |
The 'National Library of NZ' (on-line) has an 'Ask a Librarian' service -they will check electoral rolls -past & present. (They MAY check newspaper death notices -if given approx. date/s.)
Valerie WAus
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Jennifer
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9 Apr 2015 00:26 |
The information about the Mackersey comes from my Grandfathers marriage certificate. This is what is confusing me as everything else fits. Thank you for the info. Those names do ring bells as I can remember there being an uncle Con and an Uncle George (to my Mum). This sure is a mystery as to how the name Mary Ann Lee nee Mackersey is on the marriage cert. it is an original. Are Annie and Mary Ann the same person???! I am stumped ??
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Gritty
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8 Apr 2015 11:25 |
This is just a possible for the birth of Mary Ann- she may have been born before Annie Lee and William H C Moore married, so registered as Lee, but married as Moore?:
1899/5999 Lee Mary Ann. Mother: Annie. Father: William Hamilton
https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/search/
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Gritty
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8 Apr 2015 10:59 |
Jennifer- where did the name Mackersey come from?
Apart from the Mackersey name, the details posted above by Joonie and Beverley seem to fit your family.
Other possible children of Henry Arthur Lee and Annie Amelia:
1883/16581 Lee Henry Arthur. Mother: Annie Amelia. Father: Henry Arthur 1887/6129 Lee Cornelius Frederick. Mother: Annie. Father: Henry Arthur 1890/2727 Lee William Jame. Mother: Annie Amelia. Father: Henry Arthur 1892/10463 Lee George Edward. Mother: Annie. Father: Henry Arthur 1895/13186 Lee Albert Vander Mother: Annie. Father: Henry Arthurs
Annie Amelia went on to marry William H C Moore in 1910 and had child Charles H Moore.
https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/search/
Is it possible that the Mary Ann Moore that married Harry H Proctor may have been William's child from another marriage?
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Jacqueline
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8 Apr 2015 09:41 |
Only someone connected will have 'knowledge' of these people.
Have you checked search trees? One member other than you has Violet in her GR tree.
Adding 'New Zealand' to your title would be a good idea.
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Jennifer
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8 Apr 2015 09:32 |
Hi all, I have my Grandfathers marriage certificate. Arthur Henry Lee married on 6 May 1905, Violet Winnifred Ethel Mary Rand. at the residence of the Reverend James Duncan in Foxton. He was born in Masterton, New Zealand. Violet was born in Foxton, New Zealand. He was 21 and she was 20 yrs old. His parents were Henry Arthur Lee and his mother was Mary Ann Lee nee Mackersey. Mary Ann remarried at some stage and had 2 more children, Mary Ann Moore and Charlie Or Charles Moore. I think Mary Ann Moore married Harry Hetherrington Proctor, born 1895 (his father born in 1871 had the same name and married a Harriette Fuller) . I think there were other brothers to Arthur Henry Lee, as I remember my Mum having an Uncle in Levin, maybe an Uncle Con or Uncle Pat. Maybe you have knowledge of these people. Many many thanks for the information so far. Jenny :-)
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BeverleyW
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7 Mar 2015 21:23 |
Yes, it's just that one name that doesn't seem to fit.
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JoonieCloonie
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7 Mar 2015 21:06 |
I should have clarified Beverley that I certainly think you got the right parents and I just continued on from there :-)
everything else fits, the remarriage to Moore and the half-brother Charles Moore
there are several MacKersey (and McKersey) marriages in the NZ index but no Mary Anne
there are these deaths before 1882 but no way of knowing whether they relate
1873/7403 Lee Mary Ann 19Y 1870/7568 Lee Mary Ann 24H
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BeverleyW
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7 Mar 2015 20:45 |
So Mary Ann Mackersay was not the right mother... or maybe Mr. Lee Senior was married before? Where did you get her name from, Jennifer?
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JoonieCloonie
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7 Mar 2015 20:28 |
https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/search/
Here is the remarriage of Arthur Henry Lee's mother to Moore
1910/4494 Annie Amelia Lee William Hamilton Constine Moore
and here is the birth of half-brother Charles
1910/22251 Moore Charles Hamilton mother Annie Amelia father William Hamilton Constine
since it doesn't seem that Mr Moore was married before (to have a step-sister for Arthur), it may be that there was a half-sister Mary Ann Moore born after 1914 (100-year cut-off)
and for info
1934/2138 marriage Kathleen May Mudgway Charles Hamilton Moore
1938/17666 death Moore Annie Amelia 73Y
1937/27404 death (?) Moore William Hamilton 78Y
1859/6375 birth (matches age at death) Moore William Hamilton Constantine mother Mary Ann father James Kerr
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BeverleyW
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7 Mar 2015 18:25 |
This is strange, or just a big coincidence. The New Zealand BMD only has one birth approaching this:
1883/16581 Surname Lee Given names Henry Arthur Mother's name Annie Amelia Father's name Henry Arthur
which coincides with this marriage:
1882/1125 Bride's given name Annie Amelia Bride's surname Bohee Groom's given name Henry Arthur Groom's surname Lee
There is only one birth for a Mackersey, a Lindsey born in 1869, and no marriages for that name :-S
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patchem
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7 Mar 2015 07:35 |
Do all of these births and marriages occur in New Zealand or elsewhere?
Also, have you got a few dates for the other people you mention, or references to some censuses or other information so we can check them out?
Thank-you
Added: Violet born 1884, Foxton, from your tree?
From ancestry, for ref: Arthur Henry Lee in the New Zealand, Cemetery Records, 1800-2007 Name: Arthur Henry Lee Birth Date: abt 1884 Death Age: 79 Death Date: 8 Mar 1963 Burial Place: Manawatu, Horowhenua, New Zealand Cemetery: Foxton
Spouse Name: Violet Winifred Ethel Lee Spouse Death Date: 18 Mar 1969 Spouse Death Age: 84
From ancestry: Arthur Henry Lee in the New Zealand Army WWI Reserve Rolls, 1916-1917 Name: Arthur Henry Lee Residence : Foxton Year: 1917 Reserve Roll: 2nd Division
Arthur Henry Lee Gender: Male Marriage Year: 1905 Relation: Bridegroom Spouse: Violet Winifred Ethel Mary Rand Folio Number: 2171
Arthur Henry Lee in the New Zealand, Electoral Rolls, 1853-1981 He is with Violet, and is described as a settler. Name: Arthur Henry Lee Electoral Year: 1905-1906 District: Otaki Region or Province: Wellington
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Jennifer
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7 Mar 2015 05:12 |
Just trying again to see if anyone can help :-)
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Jennifer
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27 Mar 2007 00:22 |
Hi I am trying to trace my mothers side of the family. Her father was Arthur Henry Lee born aprrox 1884 who married Violet Rand in 1905 in Foxton, New Zealand. His father was Henry Arthur Lee who married Mary Ann Mackersey. I believe that Mary Ann may have remarried a Mr Moore at some stage as my grandfather (Arthur Henry) had a stepsister Mary Anne Moore and a stepbrother Charlie Moore. Does any of this ring any bells??? Thanks :)
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