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Thank you to all the amazing people who have replied to this thread.
I am quite overwhelmed.
its going to take my poor brain a while to absorb and sort out who is who though so forgive me if I miss anyones info just now.
Sheila B

hi
its not on free bdm

or lancashire bmd

it was found here

https://www.lan-opc.org.uk/

Oh thank you thank you thank you, now this solves all the problems, Sheila will be so pleased. So they married after the birth of their firs child... You're amazing,

Marriage: 1 Nov 1887 St Peter, Middleton, Lancashire, England
Guilelmum Nash - Tonge
Mariam Eustace - Tonge
Groom's Father: Roberti Nash
Bride's Father: Joannis Eustace
Witness: Michaele Patritio Donelan; Brigitta Anna Cass
Married by: Joannes W. Wigman
Notes: Cum dispensatione super imped. Mixtae religionis, necnon super trina
publicatione Cannorum.
Source: Original Register at Lancashire Archives

Name: Frances Foy
Death Age: 80
Birth Date: abt 1840
Registration Date: Mar 1920
Registration district: Prestwich
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 523

dob 5 yrs out

Name: Martin Foy
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Registration Year: 1892
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 52
Registration district: Manchester
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 150

or

Name: Martin Foy
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Registration Year: 1910
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 74
Registration district: Goole
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 493

Thank you, one down, three to go.

Re young Frances -

posting this just in case - a death transcribed in two different ways:

From FreeBMD:

"Deaths Mar 1904
EUSTACE Frances. 37 Kingston 2a 259 freebmdcc
#COMMENT Correction Reference 2013-05-2681 caused this entry to be added. Claimed Source was "FreeBMD Scan Image - Printed"
EUSTACE Frances. 57 Kings L 4b 259 JWhitmore

Although the above transcriptions are different it has been determined that the first is correct and is hence the one that appears in the results"


From Ancestry:

Frances Eustace
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Frances Eustace
Estimated birth year: abt 1847
Registration Year: 1904
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 57
Registration district: King's Lynn
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume: 4b
Page: 259


Her age is clearly 37 on the mage for the GRO Index, viewed via Ancestry and FreeBMD.- not 57.

Your Frances would have been 37 if she died before her February birthday.


From the GRO website:

EUSTACE, FRANCES 37
GRO Reference: 1904 M Quarter in KINGSTON Volume 02A Page 259

Following Catherine's comments above, concerning the Mary eustace, living at Portugal street Manchester, it seems her father Michael eustace died in Dublin 3.4.1869 according to roneustace.com.
As she is another likely candidate for a Mary.. Can anyone help with finding the Foys later. I cannot find a suitable death for Frances or Martin, nor what happened to the daughter Frances.
G

New thread started, have advised to continue on here

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1375285

if this is mary, confirms birth year

MARY
Last name NASH
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1864
Age 63
Death quarter 3
Death year 1927
District Bury
County Lancashire
Volume 8C
Page 451
Country England

Name: William Nash
Death Age: 68
Birth Date: abt 1864
Registration Date: Mar 1932
Registration district: Bury
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 674

Baptism: 13 Nov 1885 St Peter, Middleton, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Nash - filia Guilelmi Nash & Mariae (formerly Eustace)
Born: 2 Oct 1885
Godparents: Margaretha Simpson
Baptised by: Joanne W. Wigman
Source: Original Parish Register

Baptism: 4 Nov 1888 St Peter, Middleton, Lancashire, England
Anna Maria Nash - filia Gulielmi Nash & Mariae (formerly Eustace)
Born: 25 Sep 1888
Godparents: Michael Feeny; Maria Feeny
Baptised by: Athanasio Zimmermann Miss. Ap.
Source: Original Parish Register

Baptism: 30 Dec 1890 St Peter, Middleton, Lancashire, England
Joannes Robertus Nash - filius Guilelmi Nash & Mariae (formerly Eustace)
Born: 5 Nov 1890
Godparents: Sara Helena Duffin
Baptised by: Joanne W. Wigman
Source: Original Parish Register

thank you Maddie
a date and place for the wedding is a good place to start.

in the Ireland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911
Ireland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911 No Image

Name: Mary Eustace
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 17 Dec 1864
Birth Place: Dublin, Ireland
Father: Denis Eustace
Mother: Jane Norton
FHL Film Number: 101096

Name: Dennis Eustace
Gender: Male
Event Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 8 Feb 1853
Marriage Place: Rathfarnham, Ireland, Ireland
Parish Variants: Crumlin, Rathfarnham and Crumlin
Diocese: Dublin
Spouse: Jane Norton

still no marriage coming up for mary

mary had several siblings --- details on ancestry

in the Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1655-1915
View Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1655-1915

Report issue

Name: Denis Eustace
Baptism Age: 0
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 1835
Baptism Date: 22 Nov 1835
Baptism Place: Rathfarnham, Dublin, Ireland
Parish Variants: Crumlin, Rathfarnham and Crumlin
Diocese: Dublin
Father: Edwd Eustace
Mother: Cathe Eustace

Name: Jane Eustace
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1898
Death Age: 55
Registration district: Dublin South
Volume: 2
Page: 489
FHL Film Number: 101600

Name: Denis Eustace
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1898
Death Age: 65
Registration district: Dublin South
Volume: 2
Page: 524
FHL Film Number: 101600

OK so this is what I now have.
My Grandma on my mums side was KATE PYE nee NASH
Her Dad was WILLIAM NASH. Born c 1864
Her Mum was MARY nee EUSTACE. c 1865

Kate was born c 1894
Her brother LUKE was born c. 1898
these were the only two I actually knew in my childhood.
At that time we lived in Radcliffe (Bury District) (1950s)
They had lived in Radcliffe for several decades by then, But it was assumed that their parents were from Ireland.
My own research came to a brick wall until I got a birth certificate from my brother,
which is for MARY EUSTACE. Born 17 December 1864
Parents DENIS Eustace and JANE Eustace nee NORTON
The address on the cert. is Howards Lane, Roundtown, Rathfarnham South Dublin.
Pretty exciting stuff!

So now I am about to look for further info on William Nash. And a wedding cert for William and Mary.

Thank you so much all you fellow searchers.
any further news always gratefully received.


I :-) :-) :-)

Just in case you hadn't found them in the last 12 years!

Child not named in OP but on 1911 census

NASH, CHARLOTTE EUSTACE Order
GRO Reference: 1903 M Quarter in BURY Volume 08C Page 641

Death of George born 1901
Name: Age at Death (in years): NASH, GEORGE 0 Order
GRO Reference: 1901 D Quarter in BURY Volume 08C Page 385

and the "9th" child's birth and death

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
NASH, THOMAS EUSTACE Order
GRO Reference: 1896 D Quarter in BURY, BURY AND LANCASTER Volume 08C Page 639

and his death
Name: Age at Death (in years): Order:
NASH, THOMAS 0 Order
GRO Reference: 1896 D Quarter in BURY BURY AND LANCASTER Volume 08C Page 414

There is a Thomas Hand that died in Manchester in 1872

Deaths Jun 1872 (>99%)
HAND Thomas 30 Manchester 8d 85

About the correct age and in time for a marriage in 1873??

first marriage for lady in 1881

Name: Frances Eustace
Date of Registration: 1870
Registration district: Dublin North, Ireland
Volume: 12
Page Number: 506
FHL Film Number: 101251
Records on Page:
Name
Mary Colgan
Thomas Fitzsimons
Frances Ross
***** Thomas Hand
Bridget Murray
Laurence O'Brien
Elizabeth Hagerty
Alexander Gordon
***** Frances Eustace
Mary Farrell

...................................
possible birth for younger daughter:-

Name: Frances Eustace
Date of Registration: 1866
Registration district: Dublin South
Birth Country: Ireland
Volume: 2
Page: 770
FHL Film Number: 101043
.........
Name: Frances Eustace
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 27 Feb 1866
Birth Place: Dublin, Dublin, Ireland
Father: Michael Eustace
Mother: Frances Ross
FHL Film Number: 101121

........................
and Mary

Name: Mary Eustace
Baptism Age: 0
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 11 May 1864
Baptism Date: 23 May 1864
Baptism Place: St Nicholas' (Without), Dublin city, Dublin, Ireland
Residence Place: 28 Wood St
Parish Variants: Francis St., St. Nicholas (without), Francis Street
Diocese: Dublin
Father: Michal Eustace
Mother: Frances Row

maybe 1881?

Name: Mary Eustace
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relationship to Head: Step Daughter
Mother: Frances Foy
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 88 Portugal St
Occupation: Rag Sorter
Registration district: Manchester
Sub registration district: Ancoats
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3979
Folio: 88
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
Martin Foy 46
Frances Foy 41 - 1840 Ireland
Mary Eustace 16
Frances Eustace 15

.................
marriage to go with this couple
Marriages Jun 1873 (>99%)
FOY Martin Manchester 8d 777
HAND Frances Manchester 8d 777

...........but Frances' name is Hand here?

Birth of daughter, Lily:

NASH, LILY (mother's maiden name: AUSTACE )
GRO Reference: 1885 D Quarter in OLDHAM Volume 08D Page 713

I don't see any marriage in Ireland.

There were several Mary Eustaces born in Ireland around 1865-ish, which isn't helpful.
There were also several William Nashes in Ireland 1865-66 (searched 1858-67)

There's this birth which might fit Radcliffe - though Radcliffe's actually in Bury reg district:

EUSTICE, MARY mms WHEELER
GRO Reference: 1863 M Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page 293

But there's more than one marriage which could be hers in Lancashire - none of them to a Nash.