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George (b1844) and John Thomas (b1851) Smith/Dash

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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 Sep 2024 08:28

Marriage - later than young George's birth:

George Dash
in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1938
Name George Dash , bachelor [ Stable keeper ]
Gender Male
Marriage Age 29
Record Type Marriage
Birth Date abt 1820
Marriage Date 4 Nov 1849
Marriage Place Saint George The Martyr: Borough High Street, Southwark, England
Father John Dash, labourer
Spouse Ann Smith , spinster [ Father: Thomas Smith , carrier]
Register Type Parish Register

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 Sep 2024 08:21

John and his father in 1861:

George Dash
in the 1861 England Census
Name George Dash
Gender Male
Age 41
Relation Head
Estimated Birth Year 1820
Where born Angmering, Sussex, England
Civil parish St Botolph Without Bishopsgate
County/Island Middlesex
Country England
Registration district East London
Sub-registration district St Botolph
ED, institution, or vessel 11
Neighbors
Household schedule number 291
Piece 211
Folio 132
Page number 52
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
George Dash 41 Head - Ostler, WIDOWER
John Dash 10 Son - London
Charles Bedwell 63 Lodger
James Gower 20 Lodger

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 Sep 2024 08:18

1851 census:

John Dash
in the 1851 England Census
Name John Dash
Age 2 Mo
Estimated Birth Year abt 1851
Relation Son
Father's Name George Dash
Mother's Name Ann Dash
Gender Male
Where born London, Middlesex, England
Civil parish All Hallows the Great
County/Island Middlesex
Country England
Registration district London City
Sub-registration district London City South
ED, institution, or vessel 30
Neighbors
Household schedule number 124
Piece 1530
Folio 361
Page number 25
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
George Dash 30 Head - Groom, Angmering, Sussex
Ann Dash 26 Wife - Arundel, Sussex
George Dash 6 Son - Arundel
John Dash 2 Mo Son - London

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 Sep 2024 08:15

As a start -
their births, for our reference (John Thomas in London):

DASH, GEORGE DASH mmn SMITH
GRO Reference: 1844 J Quarter in WORTHING Volume 07 Page 524

DASH, JOHN THOMAS mmn SMITH
GRO Reference: 1851 M Quarter in CITY OF LONDON Volume 02 Page 207

BurgessRae

BurgessRae Report 24 Sep 2024 06:52

Thanks in advance for your help with the story of these two brothers.
George and John Thomas were born in England around the Arundel/Worthing area and the evidence seems to suggest their parents were George Dash and Ann Smith. George Snr and Ann probably weren't married - I can't find a record of their marriage and their two sons took the last name Smith.
We know George and John Thomas emigrated to Australia. George married Margaret O'Connor and John Thomas married Harriet Whitney. John Thomas's death certificate indicated he came to Australia 50 years prior (about 1869/70) but George seemed to come over first because he married Margaret in Australia in 1865.
We would love some help particularly with their immigration records and any records of their parents and grandparents which are proving hard to find.
Thank you so much.