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Pauline
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18 Sep 2024 13:22 |
I am looking for parents of Joseph William Hall born Whitehaven abt 1895 Was married to Mary Scott 1913 Child Henry1917/1993 Ij ust cannot find anything that connects to him Thank you
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ErikaH
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18 Sep 2024 13:35 |
Look for his birth on the FREE GRO site - when you decide the correct year of birth
Or get a copy of his marriage cert for father’s name
Have you looked for him in censuses…..FREE on familysearch?
Sorry, but if you 'haven’t found anything’ how can you possibly know where he was born? Or even approximately when?
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ErikaH
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18 Sep 2024 13:47 |
Mary had second initial ’J’
Are you 100% certain that Henry born 1917 was the child of the 1913 marriage? What evidence do you have?
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18 Sep 2024 13:48 |
What do you mean by not finding anything that connects to him? Where have you looked?
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Maddie
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18 Sep 2024 14:00 |
Henry Last name Hall Birth registration year 1917 Registration quarter 3 Mother's maiden name Scott District Whitehaven County Cumberland Country England Volume 10B Page 1148 Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Civil Births Collections from Great Britain, England Henry Last name Hall Birth registration year 1917 Registration quarter 3 Mother's maiden name Scott District Whitehaven County Cumberland Country England Volume 10B Page 1148 Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Civil Births Collections from Great Britain, England
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ErikaH
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18 Sep 2024 14:03 |
IF the tree on Ancestry is yours (pretty sure it is!!).................with DoB for Henry as 1st February 1917, neither of these births is his
Births Dec 1915 (>99%) HALL Henry SCOTT Whitehaven 10b 1135 Births Sep 1917 (>99%) Hall Henry Scott Whitehaven 10b 114
However, when one reads the death record carefully, the birth was NOT February.
Name Henry Hall Death Age 75 Birth Date 1 Jul 1917****************************************** Registration Date Feb 1993 Registration district Whitehaven Inferred County Cumbria Register Number A31C District and Subdistrict 3851A Entry Number 9
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ErikaH
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18 Sep 2024 14:06 |
Hall/Scott is common combination of names in Whtehaven...................suggest you need birth cert for factual info
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Maddie
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18 Sep 2024 14:09 |
Joseph W Last name Hall Marriage quarter 3 Marriage year 1913 Registration month - MarriageFinder™ Joseph W Hall married one of these people Mary J Scott Spouse's last name Scott District Whitehaven District number - County Cumberland Country England Volume 10B Volume as transcribed 10B Page number 1272
Joseph William Last name Hall Birth registration year 1895 Registration quarter 1 Mother's maiden name McClusky District Whitehaven County Cumberland Country England Volume 10B Page 652
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ErikaH
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18 Sep 2024 14:09 |
1921 Census Of England & Wales Long Croft Cottages, High Harrington, Harrington, Cumberland, England Mary Jane Scott Head Female 1850 70 Clifton, Cumberland, England Home Duties - Thomas Scott Son Male 1894 26 Harrington, Cumberland, England Out Of Normal Employment Coal Miner Hewer Moresby Coal Co Mary Jane Hall Daughter Female 1889 32 Harrington, Cumberland, England Out Of Work Home Duties - Joseph William Hall Grandson Male 1917 4 Harrington, Cumberland, England -
Births Jun 1917 Hall Joseph W Scott Whitehaven 10b 1170
HENRY was NOT the child of Joseph William Hall and Mary Jane, nee Scott, who is a widow on the above record.
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ErikaH
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18 Sep 2024 14:17 |
This MAY be Henry, but you can't progress accurately without seeing birth cert
1921 Census Of England & Wales 3, Cottage Row, Queen Street, Whitehaven, Cumberland, England Henry Hall Head Male 1891 30 Kendal, Westmorland, England Brusher Coal Pit Underground Whitehaven Colliery Co William Pit Whitehaven (Out Of Work) Maryann Hall Wife Female 1895 26 Cumberland, England Home Duties - Henry Hall Son Male 1917 4 Whitehaven, Cumberland, England - - Sarahann Hall Daughter Female 1920 1 Whitehaven, Cumberland, England - - Maryann Scott Daughter Female 1913 8 Whitehaven, Cumberland, England -
Births Mar 1920 (>99%) Hall Sarah A Scott Whitehaven 10b 1612
Births Jun 1913 (>99%) Scott Mary A Scott Whitehaven 10b 1386 (GRO shows no MMN.........confirming illegitimacy)
Marriages Mar 1914 (>99%) Hall Henry Scott Kendal 10b 1190 Scott Mary Hall Kendal 10b 1190
Making assumptions is dangerous when doing FH research
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ErikaH
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18 Sep 2024 14:20 |
1939 Register 13 Burnbanks, North Westmorland, North Westmorland R.D., Westmorland, England
Henry Hall 01 Jul 1917 Male Quarry Labourer Single 46 8
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ErikaH
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18 Sep 2024 15:23 |
Posting for info ONLY - not relevant to this enquiry, unless Henry is NOT the OP’s proven relation
Private JOSEPH WILLIAM HALL Service Number: 240542 Regiment & Unit/Ship Border Regiment
8th Bn.
Died 27 May 1918
Age 32 years
Buried or commemorated at SOISSONS MEMORIAL
France
Additional Info Son of John and Eliza Hall, of Mossbay, Workington; husband of Mary Jane Hall, of Longcroft, High Harrington, Cumberland.
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ErikaH
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28 Sep 2024 14:10 |
PM sent........acknowledged, but.......................... :-S :-S :-S
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Jink20
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28 Sep 2024 17:31 |
A tree on Ancestry suggests the following
Joseph William Hall 1895–1972 Birth DEC 19TH 1895 • Whitehaven, Cumberland, England Death NOV 22ND 1972 • Blackpool, Lancashire, England
Parents
Thomas William Hall 1874–1955
Annie MCluskey 1874–1962
Spouse Nelly Eavis 1894–1972
Birth of brother John James Hall (1898–1967) 1898 • Whitehaven, Cumberland, England
1900 Age4 Birth of sister Frances Metcalf Hall (1900–1999) Jun 12th 1900 • Whitehaven, Cumberland, England
1902 Age6 Birth of brother Albert Edward Hall (1902–1973) Sep 17th 1902 • Whitehaven, Cumberland, England
1905 Age10 Birth of sister Thomasina Hall (1905–1970) 1905 • Parton, Cumberland, England
1907 Age12 Birth of sister Ethel Annie Hall (1907–1998) 1907 • Pendleton Salford, Lancashire, England
1909 Age13 Birth of brother Frederick Hall (1909–1972) Mar 12th 1909 • Pendleton Salford, Lancashire, England
1911 Age15 Residence 02 Apr 1911 • Pendleton, Lancashire, England
1911 Age15 Birth of sister Elizabeth Hall (1911–1985) Dec 17th 1911 • Salford, Lancashire
1914 Age19 Birth of sister Florence Hall (1914–2014) 1914 • Salford, Lancashire
1916 Age21 Birth of brother Edgar Hall (1916–1996) 1916 • Salford, Lancashire
1927 Age31 Marriage 26 Feb 1927 • Pendlebury, St. John the Evangelist, Lancashire, England Nelly Eavis 1894–1972
1955 Age60 Death of father Thomas William Hall (1874–1955) 1955 • Barton, Lancashire, England
1962 Age67 Death of mother Annie MCluskey (1874–1962)
1967 Age72 Death of brother John James Hall (1898–1967) 1967 • Bury, Lancashire, England
1970 Age74 Death of sister Thomasina Hall (1905–1970) Sep 15th 1970 • Auckland,, New Zealand
1972 Age76 Death of brother Frederick Hall (1909–1972) Jun 1972 • Blackpool, Lancashire, England
1972 Age76 Death Nov 22nd 1972 • Blackpool, Lancashire, England
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Jink20
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28 Sep 2024 17:36 |
Thomas William Hall 1874–1955 Birth JUN 24TH 1874 • Moor end Millom, Cumberland, England Death 1955 • Barton, Lancashire, England
Parents James Hall 1843–1892
Frances Metcalf 1846–1908
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Jink20
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28 Sep 2024 17:36 |
Annie MCluskey 1874–1962 Birth 1874 • Lowca, Cumberland, England Death 1962
Parents Unknown father Unknown mother
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28 Sep 2024 17:38 |
James Hall 1843–1892 Birth 1843 • Penrith, Cumberland Death 1892 • Whitehaven, Cumberland
Frances Metcalf 1846–1908 Birth 1846 • Whitehaven, Cumberland, England Death SEP 17TH 1908 • Workington, Cumberland, England
Ancestry record has a copy of James and Frances marriage cert and Frances death cert. There are also photographs of several individuals
Children Elizabeth Hall 1867–1939
Stephen Metcalf Hall 1868–
John James Hall 1870–1950
Thomas William Hall 1874–1955
Valentine Albert Hall 1880–1944
Ethel Ann Hall 1882–1971
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ErikaH
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29 Sep 2024 10:49 |
Joseph William was NOT the father of Henry, who is apparently the focus of this request, and is in Pauline's tree with incorrect birth date (as per my earlier post)
If Pauline ever returns to this thread, perhaps she will enlighten us as to who she is actually trying to research :-S :-S
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Pauline
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1 Oct 2024 21:12 |
Thank you for letting me know I got this info off what the family was told I will back track the tree now Thank you again for your help
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ErikaH
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1 Oct 2024 21:16 |
Glad you found your way back.
Who is your PROVEN relation among these Halls?
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