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12 Sep 2024 09:33 |
Thanks ErikaH.
All the best
Jane
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12 Sep 2024 09:00 |
That 1881 with the BELL family is a SINGLE man who is an Iron Moulkder.
HENRY was a LABOURER in 1891, and the man recorded as JAMES in 1881 was a Labourer……..the forename is probably just a MISTAKE, which you have to allow for
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12 Sep 2024 08:55 |
Thank you all so much for your help.
I did search the GRO for births but I must have missed Albert, so thanks very much for that. That 1871 or is it 1881 with Henry living with the Bell family could be him. I will just have to check it out a bit more.
aliegal Thanks for that 1921 census. That is very useful.
greyghost and Erikah. I don't think that the 1881 you have found are the right family. Henry's b 1881 dad was Henry Chorley and Mary Ann Hazell.
I think what I need to do is buy Henry chorley b 1857 and Mary Hazell marriage cert and also need to get William b 1819 and Sarah Hancocks marriage cert to confirm parents names.
I went to the library yesterday and found a few of the family on the 1921 so I will go through my notes and see what information I can get from those.
Thanks again everyone for all your help. I couldn't do this without you all.
Jane
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ErikaH
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11 Sep 2024 18:56 |
Thanks gg
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11 Sep 2024 18:44 |
This one ErikaH ? -
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census 13, Copper Street, Roath, Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place James Choley Head Married Male 23 1858 Labourer Taunton, Somerset, England Mary Choley Wife Married Female 20 1861 Labourer wife Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales Henry Choley Son Single Male 0 1881 - Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales
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ErikaH
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11 Sep 2024 16:16 |
He married in 1880………………first child born in Cardiff before 1881 census.
EDIT
Just found the family in 1881
Head of household is recorded as JAMES……surname for all is CHOLEY
Can’t C&P….using iPad
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11 Sep 2024 15:15 |
1881??
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census St Martin Ch Street, Britford, Alderbury, Wiltshire, England
Household members (10 people) First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Joseph Bell Head Married Male 39 1842 Iron moulder Silton, Dorset, England Emily M Bell Wife Married Female 38 1843 - Silton, Dorset, England Alfred H Bell Son Single Male 15 1866 Foundry boy Chard, Somerset, England Annie E Bell Daughter Single Female 12 1869 Scholar Frome, Somerset, England Louisa A Bell Daughter Single Female 10 1871 Scholar Frome, Somerset, England Bessie S Bell Daughter Single Female 8 1873 Scholar Warminster, Wiltshire, England Walter D Bell Son Single Male 6 1875 Scholar Frome, Somerset, England Emily L Bell Daughter Single Female 2 1879 - Frome, Somerset, England Percival E Bell Son Single Male 0 1881 - Salisbury, Wiltshire, England >>Henry Chorley Lodger Single Male 24 1857 Iron moulder Taunton, Somerset, England
EDIT Already posted by Maddie.
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11 Sep 2024 15:08 |
1921 for Mary who is now a widow.
1921 Census Of England & Wales 115, Carlisle Street, Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales
Household members (7 people) First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer Mary Chorley Head mother Female 1860 61 Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales Home Duties - William Chorley Son Male 1898 23 Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales Gasman Cardiff Dowlais Works Out Of Work Selina Perry Boarder Female 1849 72 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England - - Jane Prosser Boarder Female 1898 23 London, London, England Tailoress Presser Masters & Co Tailors St Mary St Cardiff Ivor J Rees Son-in-law Male 1893 28 Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales Dock Labourer Cardiff Railway Co Beatrice M Rees Daughter Female 1891 30 Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales None Home Duties - Brinley J Rees Son Male 1921 - Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales - -
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ErikaH
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10 Sep 2024 13:11 |
CHORLEY, JAMES HANCOCK GRO Reference: 1845 J Quarter in WELLINGTON SOMERSET AND DEVON Volume 10 Page 482 CHORLEY, WILLIAM HANCOCK GRO Reference: 1847 J Quarter in WELLINGTON SOMERSET AND DEVON Volume 10 Page 472 CHORLEY, WILLIAM HANCOCK GRO Reference: 1851 J Quarter in TAUNTON Volume 10 Page 494 CHORLEY, ANN MARIA HANCOCK GRO Reference: 1849 J Quarter in BRIDGWATER UNION Volume 10 Page 351 CHORLEY, EMMA HANCOCK GRO Reference: 1853 J Quarter in BRIDGWATER Volume 05C Page 453 CHORLEY, HENRY HANCOCK GRO Reference: 1857 S Quarter in TAUNTON Volume 05C Page 396 CHORLEY, ROBERT HANCOCK GRO Reference: 1855 S Quarter in TAUNTON Volume 05C Page 376 CHORLEY, FRED HANCOCK GRO Reference: 1859 S Quarter in TAUNTON Volume 05C Page 409 CHORLEY, ROBERT HANCOCK GRO Reference: 1861 S Quarter in TAUNTON Volume 05C Page 426 CHORLEY, ALBERT EDWARD HANCOCK GRO Reference: 1864 M Quarter in TAUNTON Volume 05C Page 477
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ErikaH
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7 Sep 2024 14:40 |
The OP first said Henry, then changed to William, so presumably Henry was a typo which she hasn’t acknowledged ;-) ;-)
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Maddie
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7 Sep 2024 14:33 |
CHORLEY, HENRY HANCOCK GRO Reference: 1857 S Quarter in TAUNTON Volume 05C Page 396
William Last name Chorley Marriage quarter 3 Marriage year 1844 Registration month - MarriageFinder™ William Chorley married one of these people Mary Ann Long, Caroline Marks, Sarah Hancock, Ann Cook District Taunton District number - County Somerset Country England Volume 10 Volume as transcribed 10 Page number 675 Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce Collections from Great Britain, England
1861 William Chorley Gender Male Age 42 Relation Head Estimated Birth Year 1819 Spouse's Name Sarah Chorley Where born Milverton, Somerset, England Civil parish Taunton St James Town Taunton County/Island Somerset Country England Registration district Taunton Sub-registration district Taunton St James ED, institution, or vessel 2f Neighbors Household schedule number 184 Piece 1618 Folio 42 Page number 29 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship William Chorley 42 Head Sarah Chorley 35 Wife James Chorley 16 Son Marria Chorley 12 Daughter William Chorley 10 Son Emma Chorley 8 Daughter Henry Chorley 4 Son Fred Chorley 2 Son
CHORLEY, JAMES HANCOCK GRO Reference: 1845 J Quarter in WELLINGTON SOMERSET AND DEVON
1871 ??? me Henry Chorley Age 24 Estimated Birth Year abt 1857 Relationship to Head Lodger Gender Male Where born Taunton, Somerset, England Civil parish Britford County/Island Wiltshire Country England Street Address St Martin Ch St Occupation Iron Moulder Registration district Alderbury ED, institution, or vessel 13 Neighbors Piece 2070 Folio 38 Page number 3 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship Joseph Bell 39 Head Emily M. Bell 38 Wife Alfred H. Bell 15 Son Annie E. Bell 12 Daughter Louisa A. Bell 10 Daughter Bessie S. Bell 8 Daughter Walter D. Bell 6 Son Emily L. Bell 2 Daughter Percival E. Bell Son Henry Chorley 24 Lodger ---------------------
So it seems the parenjts are william and sara
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7 Sep 2024 13:40 |
If you think there are some mistakes you really do need to buy a few key certificates.
It is so annoying when you realise you have been going along the wrong route.
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Jane
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7 Sep 2024 08:41 |
Thanks ErikaH
I will continue to investigate this family. I really must buy some certs to make sure I am going down the correct lines. I think the top of my tree could well be wrong.
Thanks everyone for your help
Jane
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6 Sep 2024 17:21 |
In 1901, look for Beatrice…………worth doing
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Jane
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6 Sep 2024 16:47 |
Thanks ErikaH
Yes I did look. Someone gave me this "William and Sarah Hancock wedding 1844, the vol 10 and page 675" but said they haven't seen it. Looks like I am need to order it.
Thank you for all your help and I will take a look at GRO sit.
Jane
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6 Sep 2024 16:40 |
WILLIAM Chorley is on 1861 with wife Sarah and, among the children a Henry born c1857
GRO site has MMN pre-1911…..make use of it
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6 Sep 2024 16:36 |
No marriage on freebmd for HENRY Chorley and Sarah Hancock………did you look?
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Jane
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6 Sep 2024 16:26 |
Thanks Maddie
So we know that Henry did marry Mary Ann Hazell.
All the best
Jane
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6 Sep 2024 16:20 |
beatrice from 1891 census Beatrice Last name Chorley Birth registration year 1890 Registration quarter 1 Mother's maiden name Hazel ############## District Cardiff County Glamorganshire Country Wales Volume 11A Page 382 Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Civil Births Collections from Great Britain, Wales
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Jane
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6 Sep 2024 16:11 |
Thanks Erikha.
I can't find them on the 1871 or 1881 census. but I will have another look.
All the best
Jane
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