Thanks, Kay.
Although the years of birth given in various censuses, and at his death, aren't right for "my" Daniel, the month (May) fits with his birth registration..
I've ruled out another Daniel Alcock, born 1877 in Hook Norton, whose famiily emigrated to Australia in 1878 on the "Hesperus".
Also a Daniel Alcutt/Alcott, born in Birmingham in 1875, who was still in Birmingham in 1901.
Before Daniel Alcott in Canada was in Saskatchewan, his eldest child Lizzie was born in 1909 in Lindsay, Victoria, Ontario, which is near Kawartha Lakes, previously known as Verulam, which is where Daniel Alcock was in 1891.
I'm therefore sure the man in Saskatchewan is the right one.
Thanks again.
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Name Daniel Alcott Sex Male Age 49 years Birth Year (Estimated) 1877 Birthplace England Arrival Date 1885 Marital Status Married Race English Relationship to Head of Household
Head of Household
Event Type Census Event Date 1926 Event Place
Last Mountain, Mount Hope No. 279, Saskatchewan, Canada
Sub-District 21, 38 Sub-District Number Kelliher (Village) Household Identifier 51 Line Number 20 Page Num
Daniel Alcott's Spouses and Children
Open All Elvira Alcott Daughter F 16 years Saskatchewan, Canada
Jenny Alcott Wife F 47 years Ontario, Canada
Jean Alcott Daughter F 6 years Saskatchewan, Canada
Via -FamilySearch.
Buried with wife Jennie,,1879---1929.as per headstone..
Birth 1879 Death 1967 (aged 87–88) Burial Kelliher Memorial Gardens Kelliher, Wynyard Census Division, Saskatchewan, Canada.
The headstone has 2 Freemasons symbols engraved on it..
Recorded on daughters birth cert.... Daniel and Jennie married,,,August 24th 1899 at Burnt River. Jennie also refered to as,,Jane,&Annie ,,Race is as _Irish..
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Thanks for that, Kay????
Assuming all those 6 entries are for the same person: The first Ups and Downs entry says "Entering the grocery business." The second one is the one you posted - "Recently married. Has a farm of his own.". The third one says "Came 12 years ago. Placed with Mr. James Black of Bobcaygen." [Ontario]
Bobcaygeon isn't far from Verulam, the residence place in the 1891 census posted above.
There doesn't seem to be any record of his marriage, or of him on a census after 1891, or his death.
But at least I know more than I did, and it seems the ill-treated little boy benefitted from having been removed from his father's "care". Good for Miss Capper!
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earch term(s) 6 result(s) found for "alcock","daniel". Surname Given Name(s) Age Ship Year of Arrival Title of Record ALCOCK Daniel 10 PARISIAN 1887 ALCOCK Daniel 10 PARISIAN 1887 ALCOCK Daniel 10 1887 W G Annesley, Peterborough. List of children brought out by Dr Barnardo in 1887. ALCOCK Daniel Ups and Downs (magazine published by the Canadian Branch of Dr. Barnardo's Homes, Toronto), January 1897 ALCOCK Daniel Ups and Downs (magazine published by the Canadian Branch of Dr. Barnardo's Homes, Toronto), October 1899 ALCOCK Daniel Ups and Downs (magazine published by the Canadian Branch of Dr. Barnardo's Homes, Toronto), October 1899
Canadian Home Child database.
In ref to Daniel Alcock.
Surname: ALCOCK Event: Commentary Notes: Recently married. Has a farm of his own. Record Title: Ups and Downs (magazine published by the Canadian Branch of Dr. Barnardo's Homes, Toronto), October 1899 Page Number: 17 Issue Number: 1 Volume Number: 5 Reference: Gene CS88 A1 U68, microfilm #2 Source: Library and Archives Canada Database Item Number: 209633
One person has him on Ancestry but nothing beyond 1876/
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Ah, I may just have answered my own question.
?? Daniel Alcock in the Canadian Immigrant Records, Part One Name Daniel Alcock Year of Record 1887 Occupation Arrived aboard the 'Parisian' Source/Event Passenger List of Ships Arriving at the Port of Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada Age 10
Daniel Awlcock in the 1891 Census of Canada Name Daniel Awlcock Gender Male Marital Status Single Age 14 Birth Year abt 1877 Birth Place England Residence Date 1891 Residence Place Verulam, Victoria South, Ontario, Canada Relation to Head Domestic Religion Methodist Number of Employees 1 Can Read Y Can Write Y French Canadian No Father's Birth Place England Mother's Birth Place England Enumeration District 121 Page number 2 Neighbors Household Members (Name) Age Relationship James Bick 36 Head Elmia Eliza Jane Bick 33 Wife Daniel Awlcock 14 Domestic
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I wonder if anyone can find any trace of this child after 1886, please? I suspect it's another brick wall, but thought I'd ask.
In August 1886, the vicar of Sibford Ferris and neighbouring villages, Oxfordshire, wrote in his diary:
"Police Constable Justice. . . . told me that on Sunday night there was some disorder at Sibford Ferris by some young fellows who had been “lubelling” John Holtom and his concubine for ill-treating Daniel Alcock, a bastard son of John Holtom’s late wife who lived with them. It appears the woman charged the child with stealing a penny and on Saturday evening spoke to the policeman about it. The child ran away and remained out till late. On Sunday they tied him up to a bench in the workshop and placed an open bible before him, giving him only bread and water. The boys heard of this and threatened to pull the place down if they did not set the child free and treat him better. Mr Oddie told me afterwards that Holtom “ran for his life” and took shelter in Austin Hillman’s cottage. The first Mr. Oddie saw or heard of the matter was Holtom jumping or being hurled with force out of Hillman’s cottage. The women there had kicked or pushed him out and he was using fearful language. . . . Mr. Oddie’s remonstrances and the indignation of the boys had a good effect on the treatment of the child. I afterwards spoke to Holtom and the child separately and together and found that matters were improving, for the child told me he had enough to eat and had his food with the other children. Holtom and his woman had, forsooth! formerly made the child take his meals apart from the others as being a “bastard”. . . . . . But Miss Capper took the matter up and got the child admitted into Dr. Barnado’s Home at Ilford. Mr. Oddie told her he thought she had done an unwise thing as Holtom was responsible for, and quite able to maintain the boy; and that she must expect his example to be followed by others who wanted to get children taken into Dr. Barnado’s or other Homes."
And later, in September 1886:
"Met John Holtom and the boy Daniel Alcock. The man said Miss Capper was trying to get the boy into some school in London – Dr Barnardo’s, I am told. I gave both of them good advice."
John Holtom had married Jane Alcock in 1879, but she died in 1880.
Daniel's birth:
ALCOCK, DANIEL - GRO Reference: 1876 J Quarter in BANBURY Volume 03A Page 769
Here is Daniel with his widowed father in 1881:
Daniel Alcock in the 1881 England Census Name Daniel Alcock Age 4 Estimated Birth Year abt 1877 Relationship to Head Step Son Gender Male Where born Sibford Gower, Oxfordshire, England Civil parish Swalcliffe County/Island Oxfordshire Country England Occupation Scholar Registration district Banbury ED, institution, or vessel 9 Neighbors Piece 1525 Folio 30 Page number 3 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship John Holtom 52 Head Mary J. Holtom 4 Granddaughter Daniel Alcock 4 Step Son Jane Castle 33 Housekeeper
Jane Castle, the "housekeeper", is the "concubine" in question.
She married John Holtom in 1889:
Marriages Dec 1889 (>99%) Castle Jane Banbury 3a 1514 Holtom John Banbury 3a 1514
John and Jane in 1891, with children born before the marriage:
John Holtom in the 1891 England Census Name John Holtom Gender Male Age 62 Relationship Head Birth Year 1829 Spouse Jane Holtom Child Kate Emma Holtom John Henry Holtom Birth Place Sibford Ferris, Oxfordshire, England Civil parish Sibford Ferris Residence Place Sibford Ferris, Sibford Ferris, Oxfordshire, England Registration district Banbury Sub registration district Swalcliffe ED, Institution or Vessel 9 Neighbors Piece 1181 Folio 94 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship John Holtom 62 Head Jane Holtom 40 Wife Kate Emma Holtom 9 Daughter John Henry Holtom 7 Son
CASTLE, JOHN HENRY HOLTOM - GRO Reference: 1883 S Quarter in BANBURY Volume 03A Page 819
CASTLE, KATE EMMA - GRO Reference: 1881 D Quarter in BANBURY Volume 03A Page 811
However, I can't see Daniel after he had presumably been handed over to Barnardos' in 1886. Not in later censuses, nor a death, nor any emigration record.
Aged 10 or older, I expect he's unlikely to have been adopted.
Barnardo's records aren't cheap or easy to search.
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