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Can I trace the father of an illegitimate child?

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Kay????

Kay???? Report 8 Aug 2024 18:23

Thomas Stephens
Age 45
Widower.
Estimated Birth Year abt 1836
Relation Head
Gender Male
Where born Llangeler, Carmarthenshire, Wales
Civil parish Llangeler
County/Island Carmarthenshire
Country Wales
Street Address Tycanol
Condition as to marriage Widow
Occupation **Butcher (Master)**
Registration district Newcastle In Emyln
Sub registration district Kenarth
ED, institution, or vessel 11
Neighbors View others on page
Piece 5431
Folio 27
Page number 16
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Thomas Stephens 45 Head
Anne Stephens
20
Daughter ?.

Anne Stephens
15
Daughter..?.

1881census.


1891 census,


Name Thomas Stephens -a Butcher.
Age 46
Estimated Birth Year abt 1845
Relation Head
Gender Male
Where born Penboyr, Carmarthenshire, Wales
Civil parish Llangeler
Town Wlad
County/Island Carmarthenshire
Country Wales
Registration district Newcastle In Emlyn
Sub registration district Kenarth
ED, institution, or vessel 10
Neighbors View others on page
Piece 4546
Folio 114
Page number 17
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Thomas Stephens 46 Head
David Stephens
34
Son
Harriet Stephens
26
Daughter.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 8 Aug 2024 17:35

Presumably you have the 1898 birth cert?



Frances

Frances Report 8 Aug 2024 17:12

My grandfather David Davies born on the 10th July 1898 in Llangeler Cardiganshire was the second eldest of eight children.
His mother was Frances whose maiden name on their marriage certificate (1895) was given as Frances Owens. On the same certificate her father's name was given as Thomas Stephens who was a butcher.
Many years ago my cousin drew up a family tree on which he scribbled that Frances was illegitimate. When I found this recently and asked him about it he had no recollection except that he understood Frances's father was a university professor.
Now I am looking in detail at my grandfather's line it has become clear that many of the eight children (my grandfather's brother's and sisters) have achieved beyond what would have been expected of a large family with two parents who were labourers/manual workers.
From what I know my two aunts learned to play the organ and played in chapel. My grandfather ( who is unlikely to have received a secondary education) passed his Inspectors exams in the police force. Another brother was also a policeman. Another was a bank manager and another a fireman. One died in infancy and another I have no information about.
Llangeler where the family lived is between two universities and so the rumour is not impossible to believe
I have no more information. I imagine that the only way I can take this further would be through a DNA test.
Does anyone have anyother ideas please?