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Ireland Census Search Forms 1841 & 1851
Revd E L Cochrane, Holy Trinity Vicarage Smethwick, Birmingham, Laois (Queen's), Ireland
View original record
Household members (2 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Age Birth year
Joseph Howard Applicant
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John Howard Father
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Transcript of Joseph's record
First name(s) Joseph
Barony Maryborough West
Last name Howard
County Laois (Queen's)
Census year 1841
Country Ireland
Relationship Applicant
Record set Ireland Census Search Forms 1841 & 1851
Address Revd E L Cochrane, Holy Trinity Vicarage Smethwick, Birmingham
Category Census, land & surveys
Townland Mountrath
Subcategory Census
Parish Clonenagh & Clonagheen
Collections from Ireland
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Elizabeth's death??
HOWARD, ELIZABETH 0
GRO Reference: 1852 M Quarter in WIRRAL Volume 08A Page 285
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Sister Elizabeth's birth:
HOWARD, ELIZABETH mmn CALDBECK
GRO Reference: 1850 J Quarter in WIRRAL UNION Volume 19 Page 403
An earlier Robert ??
Or could this be Robert 1852 - but born in Cheshire earlier than thought, and only baptised in Smethwick ???
HOWARD, ROBERT mmn CALDBACK
GRO Reference: 1849 M Quarter in GREAT BOUGHTON Volume 19 Page 52
I don't see that child's death, nor in censuses .
Can't see any Howard/Caldbeck (Caldback) marriage.
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Robert
Father's first name(s) John
Last name Howard
Father's last name Howard
Sex Male
Mother's first name(s) Isabella
Baptism year 1852
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Baptism date 03 Oct 1852
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Place Smethwick
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
County Staffordshire
Collections from England, Great Britain
Country England
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isabellas 2nd marriage
Name Isabella Howard
Gender Female
Age 45
Birth Date abt 1826
Marriage Date 27 Aug 1871
Marriage Place Hockley, All Saints, Warwickshire, England
Parish as it Appears Hockley, All Saints
Father James Caldbeck
Spouse William Hubbart
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Robert Howard
in the 1871 England Census
Name Robert Howard
Age 18
Estimated Birth Year 1853
Relation Son-in-law
Gender Male
Where born Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Civil parish Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish All Saints
County/Island Warwickshire
Country England
Registration district Birmingham
Sub-registration district All Saints
ED, institution, or vessel 20
Household schedule number 128
Piece 3131
Folio 91
Page number 32
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Emma Pickering 52 Head
Robert Howard 18 Son-in-law
Annie Howard 18 Daughter
Harry Pickering 13 Son
Clarance Howard 1/12 Grandson
William Hartshorne 0 Grandson
Abraham Murphy 27 Boarder
No such birth in Warwickshire.
Suspect lazy "dittoing" by enumerator.
Later censuses give POB as Smethwick.
Therefore:
Robert Howard
in the 1861 England Census
Name Robert Howard
Gender Male
Age 9
Relation Son
Estimated Birth Year 1852
Mother's Name Isabella Howard
Where born Smethwick, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish Harborne
Ecclesiastical parish North Harborne
County/Island Staffordshire
Country England
Registration district Kings Norton
Sub-registration district Harborne
ED, institution, or vessel 10
Neighbors
Household schedule number 175
Piece 2126
Folio 110
Page number 32
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Isabella Howard 35 Head - Ireland, married, charwoman
John Howard 17 Son - Ireland
Joseph Howard 15 Son - Ireland
Robert Howard 9 Son - Smethwick
Isabella Howard
in the 1851 England Census
Name Isabella Howard
Age 25
Estimated Birth Year abt 1826
Relation Visitor
Gender Female
Where born Queenston, Ireland
Civil parish Harborne
Ecclesiastical parish St Peter
County/Island Staffordshire
Country England
Registration district Kings Norton
Sub-registration district Harborne
ED, institution, or vessel 2c
Neighbors
Household schedule number 41
Piece 2050
Folio 139
Page number 11
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
James Brown 64 Head
Mary Brown 52 Wife
Ester Hacket 20 Daughter
David Hacket 20 Visitor
James Hackett 2 Visitor
John Howard 25 Visitor - Ireland , Queens County <<<<<<<<<
Isabella Howard 25 Visitor - Ireland , QC <<<<<<<<<<<
John Howard 7 Visitor - Ireland <<<<<<<<<
Joseph Howard 4 Visitor - Ireland, QC <<<<<<<<<
Elizabeth Howard 11 Mo Visitor - Birkenhead, Cheshire <<<<<<<<<<<
Robert Howard 20 Daughter [Brother on image] - Ireland, QC
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Marriages Dec 1870 (>99%)
HOWARD Robert Birmingham 6d 29
PICKERING Ann Maria Birmingham 6d 29
Robert Howard
in the Birmingham, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1939
Name Robert Howard [bachelor, screw maker ]
Gender Male
Age 18
Birth Date abt 1852
Marriage Date 12 Dec 1870
Marriage Place Hockley, All Saints, Warwickshire, England
Parish as it Appears Hockley, All Saints
Father John Howard [striker ] <<<<<<<<<<<
Spouse Ann Maria Pickering
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Looking for ancestors of Robert Howard born 1853 and married to Ann M Pickering.
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