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1921 look up please

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Jean

Jean Report 31 Jul 2024 18:42

Thank you Erikahfor the help you have given really appreciate everyone who helps on this site.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Jul 2024 18:33

The four Breeze/McCann births were registered in Hartlepool 1930-1935

They are not open records in 1939.

William is at 22 Mozart Street, Hartlepool plus ONE closed record

Jean

Jean Report 27 Jul 2024 20:42

Hi Erika my grandfather married in 1929 Mary nee mccann she died in 1938 on Xmas morning she was having a baby but never found out if baby was still born or a miscarriage as no one spoke about it my mother was only five at the time. I do know that he had been in the army I think it was the Stafford reg and they won the scissors cup in 1924. But didn’t know his where about after the family moved from jarrow to Hartlepool. You have been really helpful. And I thankyou.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 27 Jul 2024 13:00

In case it turns out to be relevant -

That 1939 couple, William and Edith, also had a daughter, Edith, in 1922.

That William died in 1953 in Market Drayton, with probate to his daughter.

Ancestry suggests he was baptised in Cheswardine, Shropshire on 25 Aug 1895. Parents James and Rose Ann.
That birth's registered in Market Drayton.

Of course Ancestry's supposition may just be because of the year of birth, and the geography.
But if true, then he can't be the Durham man in Lichfield in 1921.

There are a surprising number of men named William Breeze!

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 27 Jul 2024 11:53

First name(s) William
Full address as transcribed 5 Queen Street Lichfield
Last name Breeze
Parish St Michael
Sex Male
Registration district Lichfield
Birth year 1895
Registration district number 367
Census date 19 June 1921
Sub-district Lichfield
Age in years 25
Sub-district number 1
Age in months 10
Enumeration district number 34
Age as transcribed 25 y 10 m
County Staffordshire
Marital status Single
Country England
Birth place Durham, Durham, England
Rank or rating Private
Service and branch or arm of service Army Infantry

FMP suggests that the above man is this one in 1939- their linkage may, of course, be purely geographical

1939 Register
Doby Road, Knighton, Stafford R.D., Staffordshire, England
William Breeze 20 Jun 1895 Male Farmer Widowed 61 1
Daisy Breeze 02 Mar 1904 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Single 61 2
William R Breeze 12 Jun 1924 Male Unemployed Due To Accident Single 61 3


Births Sep 1924 (>99%)
Breeze William R Tomlin Mt. Drayton 6a 1122

Marriages Dec 1921 (>99%)
Breeze William Tomlin Mt.Drayton 6a 1667
Tomlin Edith M Breeze Mt.Drayton 6a 1667

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 27 Jul 2024 10:28

Is this his marriage?

Marriages Dec 1929 (>99%)
Breeze William McCann Hartlepool 10a 297
McCann Mary Breeze Hartlepool 10a 297


William Breeze
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name William Breeze
Gender Male
Marital Status Widowed
Birth Date 30 Mar 1894
Residence Date 1939
Address 22 Mozart Street
Residence Place West Hartlepool, Durham, England
Occupation Shipyard Driller
Line Number 30
Schedule Number 212
Sub Schedule Number 1
Enumeration District Fenu
Borough West Hartlepool
Registration district 545/2.
Household Members (Name) Gender Birth Year
William Breeze Male 1894
This record is officially closed.


Deaths Dec 1938 (>99%)
BREEZE Mary 41 W.Hartlepool 10a 167

There were four Breeze/McCann births between 1930 and 1935 (though the eldest, Ivy M, died in infancy )- so maybe that's not the right marriage, unless the children weren't with their father in 1939.


ADDED:
I think it's the right marriage.
Mary's gravestone, in Stranton Grange Cemetery, Hartlepool, names her husband William James Breeze, died 12/11/1963, aged 69.

MORE:
The gravestone has actually been erected by one of their daughters, relatively recently by the look of it.

It says "Treasured memories of", and then there's a gap, followed by "Also her dear father William James Breeze. . . . [and so on] also his beloved wife and a dear mother Mary Breeze nee McCann . . . . . ."

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 27 Jul 2024 10:22

Perhaps someone with a sub to FMP will have a look at this 1921 entry, please?
With luck, the birthplace may be another 1921 mistranscription.

William Breeze
1895
Birthplace: Durham, Durham, England

St Michael
Lichfield
Staffordshire

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 27 Jul 2024 10:18

He could have been in the army - do you have any reason to think he may have been - but military records for 1920 onwards are not online.

He should still appear on 1921 census

Who did he marry? And where, please.

Jean

Jean Report 27 Jul 2024 09:23

Thank you for the information. Reguarding. William breeze. And family. Could William of been in army at that time. From 1921. And Erika h. It was still kind of you to help. All of you researchers. Are very kind and appreciated.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Jul 2024 16:31

Yes, I made a mistake.

Birth registered AMJ 1894

alviegal

alviegal Report 25 Jul 2024 15:53

Susannah is a widow in 1921.

1921 Census Of England & Wales
32, Milton Street, Hartlepool, Throston, Durham, England

Household members (7 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer
James Holton Head
Male 1879 42 Hartlepool, Durham, England Shipyard Driller (Out Of Work), Irvenes Shipyard
Susannah Holton Wife
Female 1882 38 Jarrow, Durham, England Household Duties -
Ena Holton Daughter
Female 1907 14 Hartlepool, Durham, England - -
James Holton Son
Male 1911 10 Hartlepool, Durham, England - -
Violet Holton Daughter
Female 1917 3 Hartlepool, Durham, England - -
George A B Holton Son
Male 1921 - Hartlepool, Durham, England - -
>>Susannah Breeze Boarder
Female 1864 57 Hartlepool, Durham, England -

George

1921 Census Of England & Wales
49, Howard Street, Hartlepool, Throston, Durham, England
Household members (3 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer
George F Breeze Head
Male 1891 29 Jarrow, Durham, England Shipyard Driller Messrs Furnss Co Shipbuilders
Clara Breeze Wife
Female 1888 32 Hartlepool, Durham, England - -
George Breeze Son
Male 1916 5 Hartlepool, Durham, England


Harriett

1921 Census Of England & Wales
27, Uppingham Street, West Hartlepool, Durham, England

Household members (4 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer
Robert William Magee Head
Male 1891 30 West Hartlepool, Durham, England Steelworks Labourer South Durham Steel & Iron Coy
Harriet Magee Wife
Female 1890 31 Jarrow, Durham, England Household Duties Home
Annie Magee Daughter
Female 1912 8 Hartlepool, Durham, England - -
Ena May Magee Daughter
Female 1920 1 West Hartlepool, Durham, England



Having trouble finding William.

alviegal

alviegal Report 25 Jul 2024 15:52

1911 Census For England & Wales
1 Dock St Hartlepool, Throston, Durham, England

Household members (6 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Breeze Head
Married Male 50 1861 Boot maker Low Stef Norfolk
Susannah Breeze Wife
Married Female 45 1866 - Hartlepool Durham
Harriss Breeze Daughter
- Female 21 1890 - Jarrow Durham
George Breeze Son
- Male 19 1892 Hand driller Jarrow Durham
William Breeze Son
- Male 17 1894 Hand driller Jarrow Durham
Violet May Moffett Grand daug
- Female 4 1907 - Jarrow Durham


Think you've got a bit muddled ErikaH ;-)

Jean

Jean Report 21 Jul 2024 18:30

Hi no he didn’t marry until about 1929 thank you for taking the time to look for me. Much appreciated

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Jul 2024 18:05

1 Dock Street, Hartlepool in 1921

George 1861, Susannah 1866, Harriet 1890, George 1892, William and George & Susannah’s granddaughter Violet May Moffett 1907

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Jul 2024 17:56

Would he have been married by 1921?

Jean

Jean Report 21 Jul 2024 17:00

I would like a look up please for my grandfather in 1921 William James breeze was b 1894 in jarrow south sheilds. I think thee family moved to Hartlepool sometime after 1901 thankyou in advance.