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John Henry Hornby 1939

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Sylann

Sylann Report 28 Jun 2024 17:36

I have a John Henry Hornby born 1898 Hebburn Leeds he was married to Annie Jowett in 1920.
trying to find how many children he had 1921 would only have his daughter Mary on . I've got he was an engineer with outgoing and incoming passenger lists his Home address is listed as 21 Neville Place Leeds and this was his address on his Probate wit wife Annie still alive
Nothing is coming up for 1939 register that I can see

I've got he had 5 children 1 died as a baby
any help would be appreciated Thank you

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Jun 2024 18:01

Probate…when?

Is his wife on the 1939?

What were the names and birth years of the children?

Sylann

Sylann Report 28 Jun 2024 18:11

Probate 14 Sept 1953
Not found his wife on 1939 but only just started looking for her
children Mary Annie 1921-1973
Florence 1922-1922
Joseph 1925
Ronald 1926
Gladys 1927

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Jun 2024 18:33

You refer to passenger lists………so was he abroad? I assume you’ve cross-referenced all sailing dates………………..

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Jun 2024 18:34

His wife and one daughter are at the address you give in 1939

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Jun 2024 18:37

Can’t see birth for Joseph..please post your record of the event

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Jun 2024 18:44

Incidentally, Hebburn is in County Durham…..NOT Leeds

The family were living there in 1921….he was a Ship’s Rivetter

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Jun 2024 18:48

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HORNBY, JOHN HENRY LAING
GRO Reference: 1898 J Quarter in SOUTH SHIELDS Volume 10A Page 868
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Hebburn isn’t in Leeds !

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 28 Jun 2024 18:59

Have you tried looking for them on freebmd?

Added four are on freebmd. Two registered in South Shieldsand two registered in Leeds

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Jun 2024 19:03

In Scunthorpe in 1939 under John h Hornby

DoB 30 March 1898

Sylann

Sylann Report 28 Jun 2024 19:14

Sorry about Hebburn yes it is Durham
Not sure I've got the right family ??

ErikaH I havent seen the 1921 census

I'm trying to verify the info I've got as I've just been contacted by a relative of John Henry Hornby who is closer than I am to him but he is only just starting
The probate I have for him is at 21 Neville Place same address as the passenger lists but he is an engineer? 1938 and 1941 But ErikaH has him as a ships rivetter

I've got his birth and Parents right

Sylann

Sylann Report 28 Jun 2024 19:17

Yes I've seen that Erika but didn't think it was him and couldn't make out why it was crossed out, writing over it says to look at another page but didn't understand it as I couldn't make it out properly

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 28 Jun 2024 19:19

Why is ships rivetter to engineer too big a leap?

Added re the crossing out - he could have been recorded at a different address. Could he have a,ready signed up for the navy - if so he wouldn’t be registered at home.

Sylann

Sylann Report 28 Jun 2024 19:24

ships rivetter 1939 engineer 1938 and 1941 could have changed his job and changed it back again

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Jun 2024 19:26

If you look at the 1939 results, you will see that there are TWO. Look at BOTH

ALSO - when he went to Canada in 1940, he was NOT an engineer - he was Foreman Erector!!!

He was never in the Navy as far as can be seen

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Jun 2024 19:30

Get birth cert for exact DoB

Jink20

Jink20 Report 28 Jun 2024 19:55

As Canada was mentioned, it seems only fair to include some others

Passenger Lists Leaving UK 1890-1960


First name(s) John Hy
Last name Hornby
Destination place - country BERMUDA ******
Destination country Bermuda
Sex Male
Ship's name Orduna
Birth year 1898
Ship's official number 135539
Age 40
Ship's registered tonnage 15507
Age as transcribed 40
Ship's master's first name(s) H B
Occupation Engineer
Ship's master's last name Reece
Departure day 2
Shipping line The Pacific Steam Navigation Co
Departure month 11
Number of passengers 185
Departure year 1938
Ship's departure port LIVERPOOL
Departure port Liverpool
Departure country England
Ship's destination port Valparaiso
Ship's destination country Chile
Entry struck out N
Record set Passenger Lists Leaving UK 1890-1960
Destination port Bermuda
Category Travel & migration
Destination Bermuda
Subcategory Passenger Lists
Country Bermuda
Collections from Great Britain, England

EDIT Last UK Address given on Passenger list : 21 Neville Place, Leeds

Date of Sailing 26 Nov 1938

alviegal

alviegal Report 28 Jun 2024 20:01

1921 Census Of England & Wales
21, Edward Street, Hebburn, Durham, England

Household members (3 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer
John Henry Hornby Head
Male 1898 23 Hebburn, Durham, England Ship Rivetter Leslies Shipbuilding Co Ltd Hebburn-On-Tyne
Annie Hornby Wife
Female 1900 20 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Household Duties -
Mary Annie Hornby Daughter
Female 1921 - Hebburn, Durham, England - -


1939 Register
1 Porter Street, Scunthorpe, Scunthorpe M.B., Lincolnshire (Parts of Lindsey), England

First name(s) John H
Country England
Last name(s) Hornby
E. D. letter code TMML
Birth date 30 Mar 1898
Schedule 40
Birth day 30
Schedule sub number 3
Birth month 3
Archive reference RG101/6447B/005/20
Birth year 1898
Piece number 6447B
Sex Male
Item number 5
Marital status Married
Line number 20
Occupation Rivetter
Special interest groups Heavy Worker
Address 1 Porter Street, Scunthorpe
Record set 1939 Register
Place Scunthorpe M.B.
Category Census, land & surveys
Borough / district Scunthorpe M.B.
Subcategory Census
County Lincolnshire (Parts of Lindsey)
Collections from Great Britain, England, Wales
County Lincolnshire (Parts of Lindsey)

2 closed records after him.

1939 Register
21 Neville Place, Leeds, Leeds C.B., Yorkshire (West Riding), England

First name(s) Last name(s) Birth date Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule sub number
Annie Hodson (Hornby) 13 Nov 1900 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 256 1
Annie (Mary) Hornby 20 Feb 1921 Female Tailors Trousers Hand Single 256 2

Sylann

Sylann Report 28 Jun 2024 20:04

ErikaH

Just heard from the relative John Henry Hornby 1898
John Henry Died 13 June 1953 Bolton his address 21 Neville Place he was killed in an accident in a Gasometer when it was being constructed and his occupation was down as a Foreman Steel Erector. I've looked at both 1939 for john But can't find the one for his wife and daughter

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Jun 2024 20:05

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