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I don't suppose that the name might be Sissie? That name is used as a diminutive of Cecily, but also as sister.

Granny used to talk about Auntie Sissie, but there's no one of that name in my tree, Mum thought she might be Granny's sister in law, whose name was Rachel.

Hi.With regards to entry by ArgllGran re;1891 Census.From what I can gather the Family must have had a split up and Ann Teasdale moved back home with her family to live with her father. I did find a report in the Durham County "Advertiser" of a John Robinson,Miner,drunk on highway at Tow Law,22/08/1884.On 05/09/1884 he was fined 7s 6d which would have been a heavy fine in those days. Maybe the family problem was his drinking. In the 1901 Census the Robinson family were all still with Ann's Father and the whole family are recorded as Teasdales.

Thanks for all your efforts re;the name Thissie. Probably may never
know her correct name.

1881 - not at Thornley Road End:

Ann Robinson
in the 1881 England Census
Name Ann Robinson
Age 6
Estimated Birth Year abt 1875
Relationship to Head Daughter
Father John Robinson
Mother Ann Robinson
Gender Female
Where born Tow Law, Durham, England
Civil parish Wolsingham
County/Island Durham
Country England
Street Address Dans Castle
Occupation Scholar
Registration district Weardale
ED, institution, or vessel 11
Neighbors
Piece 4940
Folio 67
Page number 33
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
John Robinson 29 Head
Ann Robinson 28 Wife
Ann Robinson 6 Daughter
Catherine Robinson 4 Daughter
John Robinson 2 Son

Probably your grandmother in 1891 - at Thornley Road End:

Annie Robinson
in the 1891 England Census
Name Annie Robinson
Gender Female
Age 16
Relationship Granddaughter
Birth Year 1875
Birth Place Tow Law, Durham, England
Civil parish Wolsingham
Residence Place Tow Law, Wolsingham, Durham, England
Registration district Weardale
Sub registration district Wolsingham
ED, Institution or Vessel 8
Neighbors
Piece 4085
Folio 79
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
John Teasdale 68 Head
Ann Teasdale 38 Daughter [Robinson on image ]
Sarah Robinson 18 Granddaughter
Annie Robinson 16 Granddaughter
Catherine Robinson 14 Granddaughter
John Robinson 12 Grandson
Thomas Robinson 9 Grandson
Mark Robinson 6 Grandson
Joseph Robinson 3 Grandson

There's this family living at Thornley Road End in 1861 (I know that's too early) - any relation to your grandmother?.

Elizabeth Robinson
in the 1861 England Census
Name Elizabeth Robinson
Gender Female
Age 6
Relation Granddaughter
Estimated Birth Year 1855
Mother's Name Ann Robinson
Where born Tow Law, Durham, England
Civil parish Wolsingham
Ecclesiastical parish Thornley
Town Tow Law
County/Island Durham
Country England
Registration district Weardale
Sub-registration district Wolsingham
ED, institution, or vessel 7
Neighbors
Household schedule number 26
Piece 3727
Folio 88
Page number 5
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Elizabeth Smith 74 Head
William Smith 44 Son
Ann Robinson 28 Daughter
John Robt Robinson 10 Grandson
Elizabeth Robinson 6 Granddaughter
David Welford 29 Boarder
William Palmer 23 Boarder

Your grandparents' marriage:

Annie Robinson
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538-1973
Name Annie Robinson
Gender Female
Marriage Date 8 Jul 1894
Marriage Place Thornley (Near Tow-Law), Durham, England
Spouse Thomas Robert Liddle
FHL Film Number 1514657
Reference ID CN502

Hi.Have finally got back the book belonging to my Paternal G'Parents.It is called My Friends Birthdays which in effect is an autograph book of family and friends.Most of the entries were added in the 1890's.My grandmother was Annie Robinson,1874-1930 and her future husband was my grandfather Thomas Robert Liddle,1868.
The question I asked was regarding the name on the inside cover that reads;
Thissie Robinson,Thornley Road,Near Tow Law, RSO, Durham. I found later that
RSO apparently meant Railway Station that the post was delivered as I think it is a rural area.

Sorry to be so long winded but still don't know what Thissie is a
corruption of.
Terry L.

Check the names in the book.................if it's a record of friends' birthdays, one would imagine the recipient would include the donor.
Also, try to determine when it was printed

Thanks again for everyone's efforts .My son informs me it might be Late June/July before the book will be finished. Will wait and see what the actual wording is and her address.
Thanks again,Terry L.

Nothing to do with Terence's query - but -


Robinson Bell was the son of Alice's brother Matthew and his wife Louisa Jane Briddick (or Jane Louisa in other records):

BELL, ROBINSON mmn BRIDDICK
GRO Reference: 1891 J Quarter in WEARDALE Volume 10A Page 327


Marriages Sep 1890 (>99%)
Bell Matthew Weardale 10a 414
BRIDDICK Louisa Jane Weardale 10a 414


Jane/Louisa died in early 1891, possibly in childbirth.

BELL, JANE LOUISA 17
GRO Reference: 1891 M Quarter in WEARDALE Volume 10A Page 182

Although Phillis still seems a possibility to me, it feels odd that the surname is included.

I hope Terence will let us know the exact wording when he gets the book back.

Assuming Thissie herself wrote the words, it would seem more natural to write just "From Thissie" or "From Aunt Thissie" or something like that, unless it was to distinguish her from some other Thissie - which seems unlikely.
But I'm probably over-thinking it!


Another possibility might be Annie's aunt Alice (nee Bell) who married John's brother Joseph in early 1881 or late 1880.
Alice and Joseph were living in Tow Law in both 1881 and 1891.
Alice is a name which might be corrupted to Thissie by a young child.
If she gave the gift soon after her marriage, she might have added her new surname.

Joseph Robinson
in the 1891 England Census
Name Joseph Robinson
Gender Male
Age 33
Relationship Head
Birth Year 1858
Spouse Alice Robinson
Birth Place Bishop Auckland, Durham, England
Civil parish Wolsingham
Residence Place Tow Law, Wolsingham, Durham, England
Registration district Weardale
Sub registration district Wolsingham
ED, Institution or Vessel 11
Neighbors
Piece 4085
Folio 140
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Joseph Robinson 33 Head
Alice Robinson 31 Wife
Robinson Bell 12 Adopted Son [ age 12 DAYS on image. Correction submitted ]


Joseph Robinson
in the 1881 England Census
Name Joseph Robinson
Age 23
Estimated Birth Year abt 1858
Relationship to Head Son in Law (Son-in-law)
Spouse Alice Robinson
Gender Male
Where born Woodhouses, Durham, England
Civil parish Wolsingham
County/Island Durham
Country England
Street Address Attwood Road Keepers Row [Tow Law on image ]
Marital Status Married
Occupation Coal Miner
Registration district Weardale
ED, institution, or vessel 11
Neighbors
Piece 4940
Folio 56
Page number 11
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Lancelot Bell 49 Head
Dorithy Bell 45 Wife
James Bell 18 Son
Mathew Bell 15 Son
Lancelot Bell 7 Son
Margaret Ada Bell 3 Daughter
Joseph Robinson 23 Son in Law (Son-in-law)
Alice Robinson 21 Daughter

As I said earlier, the donor wasn’t necessarily related…….Robinson is a very common name

But Phyllis married in 1888 so no longer a Robinson

Name Phillis Annie Robinson
Registration Year 1888
[1888]
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district Auckland
Inferred County Durham
Volume 10a
Page 261
Records on Page (Name)
William Gilroy Cook
Elizabeth Heaviside
George Hordon
Phillis Annie Robinson


So married when annie was about 15

Depending on when the book was written whether it was Phyllis before she married

I was thinking along the same lines as AG, the gifting relative could also have used the name the family called her.

I didn’t know my Aunt was never known by her own name until she died.

Terence - I hope you are fully recovered.

It might be useful to know the exact wording on the book.

The book was obviously given to Annie before her marriage in 1894, and possibly when she was quite young.
It's the sort of thing I can imagine as a gift to an 8 or 9-year-old, or young teenager, who might still be calling a relative by the name she used when too young to pronounce the real name.

Although we'll never know for sure, I'm inclined to agree with Terence's suggestion that Thissie was her aunt Phillis, whose middle name was Annie.

Yes my G'Mother married Thomas Robert Liddle in 1894 in Weardale.

For name info.......................

1939 Register
3 Sunderland Road, Easington, Easington R.D., Durham, England

John W Liddle 04 Sep 1906 Male Colliery Hewer (Below) Coal Mine Married 17 1
Margaret Liddle 27 Sep 1908 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 17 2
The record for this person is officially closed.
Elizabeth Donnelly 09 Sep 1910 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Single 17 4

LIDDLE, JOHN WILLIE ROBINSON
GRO Reference: 1906 D Quarter in AUCKLAND Volume 10A Page 262

1921 Census Of England & Wales
Front Street, Sunniside, Crook & Billy Row, Durham, England
Thomas Robert Liddle Head Male 1868 52 Bishop Auckland, Durham, England Coal Miner Stonea Weardale Steel Coal And Coke West Th Out Of Work
Annie Liddle Wife Female 1875 46 Durham, Durham, England Home Duties -
Robert Liddle Son Male 1903 18 Crook, Durham, England Coal Miner Driver Weardal Steel Coal And Com Out Of Work
John Willie Liddle Son Male 1906 14 Crook, Durham, England Coal Miner Driver Weardal Steel Coal And Com Out Of Work
Connie Liddle Daughter Female 1910 10 Crook, Durham, England



1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Dans Castle, Wolsingham, Weardale, Durham, England
John Robinson Head Married Male 29 1852 Coal miner Wolsingham, Durham, England
Ann Robinson Wife Married Female 28 1853 - Tow Law, Durham, England
Ann Robinson Daughter Single Female 6 1875 Scholar Tow Law, Durham, England
Catherine Robinson Daughter Single Female 4 1877 Scholar Tow Law, Durham, England
John Robinson Son Single Male 2 1879 - Durham, England

Wonder if she a sister of John
1891 census
Name Lizzie H Robinson
Gender Female
Age 15
Relationship Daughter
Birth Year 1876
Father
Shields Robinson
Birth Place Evenwood, Durham, England
Civil parish Evenwood Barony
Residence Place Evenwood, Evenwood Barony, Durham, England
Registration district Auckland
Sub registration district Hamsterley
ED, Institution or Vessel 16
Neighbors View others on page
Piece 4077
Folio 79
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Shields Robinson
63 Head. (Johns father !)
Lizzie H Robinson 15 Daughter


Name Elizabeth Hannah Robinson
Registration Year 1895
[1895]
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Registration district Auckland
Inferred County Durham
Volume 10a
Page 367
Records on Page (Name)
Benjamin Littlefair
Elizabeth Hannah Robinson



1901 census


Name Elizabeth H Lettlefair
Age 25
Estimated Birth Year abt 1876
Relation to Head Wife
Gender Female
Spouse Benjamin Lettlefair
Birth Place Toft Hill, Durham, England
Civil parish Evenwood and Barony
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Ecclesiastical parish Etherley St Cuthbert
Town Toft Hill >>>>>>>>
County/Island Durham >>>>>
Country England
Registration district Auckland
Sub-registration district Hamsterley
ED, institution, or vessel 18
Neighbors View others on page
Piece 4654
Folio 39
Page number 4
Household schedule number 22
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Benjamin Lettlefair
29
Head
Elizabeth H Lettlefair 25 Wife
Alfred Lettlefair
4
Son
Redvers Lettlefair
8/12
Son

Not Robinson at death

1911 census

Name Annie Liddle
Age in 1911 36
Estimated Birth Year abt 1875
Relation to Head Wife
Gender Female
Birth Place Wolsingham, Durham, England
Civil parish Crook and Billy Row
County/Island Durham
Country England
Street Address Front Street Sunniside Nr Tow Law
Marital Status Married
Registration District Number 547
Sub-registration district Hamsterley
ED, institution, or vessel 15
Piece 29765
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Thomas Robert Liddle
42
Head
Annie Liddle 36 Wife
Annie Liddle
15
Daughter
Robert Liddle
8
Son
John Willie Liddle
4
Son
Connie Liddle
6/12
Daughter


Married 16 years 5 children born 4 still living

The surname is very common, so the donor of the book may not have been related to the recipient.

When was the book printed?

If it's a record of birthdays, isn't the donor included?

You haven't answered the questions about whether you've looked at any records to try to work out what the name might be..........................

Also, was Robinson the maiden name of your grandmother............or her married name? Your post is unclear.

Unless your grandmother didn't marry, her father's surname would not have been Robinson