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15 May 2024 14:31 |
Betty on Gordons Grave is actually Mary
Parkin, Betty BORN
1908
DIED
2005
BURIAL NAME
Parkin, Mary
BURIAL DATE
Jun 2005
CEMETERY
Queen's Park Cemetery & Mausoleum (Calgary)
LOCATION
O:03:064
MEMORIAL INFORMATION
1908 - 2005; shared with Gordon Parkin
https://albertaancestors.ca/memorial/betty-parkin-1908-2005/?logged_in=
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15 May 2024 14:18 |
I wonder where the surname Bernie came from?
On Gordon's obituary it mentions a Thomas Birnie
On Find a Grave site it mentions he has a child called Lorraine Elva Parkin Birnie. 1937 -2021
Was Bettys maiden name Birnie which would make that marriage with Mary Elizabeth Gray is wrong.
Thanks everyone for all your help
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15 May 2024 13:59 |
Thanks ArgyllGran
That death looks promising. Its got to be John Henry Gordon, Ethel's Brother. I wonder why he decided to use Gordon as his name.
Jink20
That gravestone also suggest that he did marry Mary Elizabeth Gray.
Thank you
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15 May 2024 13:36 |
Gordon Parkin BIRTH 1907 DEATH 1979 (aged 71–72) BURIAL Queen's Park Cemetery and Mausoleum Calgary, Calgary Census Division, Alberta, Canada PLOT Section O Block 03 Plot 064
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/160480128/gordon-parkin
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15 May 2024 12:06 |
Gordon's death:
Gordon Parkin in the Canada, Newspapers.com™ Obituary Index, 1800s-current Name Gordon Parkin Gender Male Death Age 72 Birth Date abt 1907 Death Date 16 Mar 1979 Obituary Date 19 Mar 1979 Obituary Place Calgary, Alberta, Canada Newspaper Title The Albertan Mother Annie Parkin, Nanaimo Spouse Betty Parkin Child Thomas Birnie Siblings Ethel Qiorley [Chorley ]
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15 May 2024 11:22 |
Thanks ErikaH
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ErikaH
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15 May 2024 11:20 |
Easy to find siblings using the GRO website and inputting both surnames
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15 May 2024 11:13 |
Thanks for that information.
I will check it out and see what I can find.
All the best
Jane
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15 May 2024 10:23 |
Possibly brother Gordon's marriage ??? I don't know why the name Anderson has been added:
Mr. Gordon Parkin in the Canada, Newspapers.com™ Marriage Index, 1800s-current Name Mr. Gordon Parkin [Mr. Gordon Anderson] Gender Male Residence Date Abt 1930 Residence Place Apartments , Reglna. Residence Place 2 Suite .11 . Marriage Date Feb 1930 Father Parkin Spouse Mary Elizabeth Gray Siblings Ethel Parkin
PARKIN, ETHEL EVA DOREEN mmn KIGHAM GRO Reference: 1910 D Quarter in BASFORD Volume 07B Page 181
Brother Gordon's birth:
PARKIN, JOHN HENRY GORDON mmn HIGHAM GRO Reference: 1907 J Quarter in BASFORD Volume 07B Page 177
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15 May 2024 10:17 |
Thanks ArgllGran
I didn't have that information. Strange the record in 1922 says she hasn't been to Canada before.
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Jane
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15 May 2024 10:01 |
In case you don't have these -
Ethel going to Canada aged 8 months, along with her mother and brother Gordon. Her father was already there - against Annie's name it says "going to husband":
Ethel E D Pardin in the Canada, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 Name Ethel E D Pardin Gender Female Arrival Age 8/12 Birth Year abt 1911 Departure Port Liverpool, England Arrival Date 1 Oct 1911 Arrival Port Quebec, Canada Vessel Canada
Ethel E D Parkin in the U.S., Index to Alien Arrivals at Canadian Atlantic and Pacific Seaports, 1904-1944 Name Ethel E D Parkin Age 11/12 Birth Year abt 1910 Arrival Year 1911 Arrival Country USA
But then again in 1922 - the record says she hasn't lived in Canada before: Travelling with parents. Going to Mr John Kelly, 49 Egerton Road, Winnipeg. Relative in UK: Grandfather, Henry Parkin, 54 Welbeck Street, East Kirkby.
Ethel Eva Doreen Parkin in the Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924 Name Ethel Eva Doreen Parkin Gender Female Estimated Birth Year abt 1913 Birth Place Kirkby North Age 9 Date of Arrival May 1922 Port of Arrival Quebec Port of Departure Nottingham, England Ship Name Metagama
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15 May 2024 07:38 |
Thanks again everyone.
You have all been very helpful.
Just to confuse everyone the Parkin family often used their middle name instead of their first name. So Cyril could have been right. I will have a closer look at all the information you have given me today.
Yesterday I knew nothing about him today thanks to you all i know quite a bit about him.
Thank you
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14 May 2024 22:08 |
ErikaH- Thanks again for the assist
It took me so long to collate my last post I submitted it before I saw yours Your 1921 trumps my 1911 !!
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14 May 2024 20:42 |
And not trying to confuse things ....................but I don't think Cyril the Soldier in Canada is the brother
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Victoria Terrace, The Gutter, Belper, Derbyshire, England
Henry Parkin Head Married Male 29 1862 Shoemaker Waingroves, Derbyshire, Sarah Parkin WifeMarried Female 28 1863 - Denby, Derbyshire, England Alice Olive Parkin Daughter Female 6 1885 Scholar Ripley, Derbyshire, *James Hy Parkin Son - Male 4 1887 - Denby, Derbyshire, England John Leonard Parkin Son - Male 2 1889 - Belper, Derbyshire, Thomas Cyril Parkin Son - Male 0 1891 - Belper, Derbyshire, -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census 20, Victoria Road, Kirkby in Ashfield, Basford, Nottinghamshire, England
Henry Parkin Head Married Male 39 1862 Master shoemaker Derbyshire, Sarah Parkin Wife Married Female 38 1863 - Denby, Derbyshire, Alice Olive Parkin Daughter Single Female 16 1885 Ripley, Derbyshire, *James Henry Parkin Son - Male 14 1887 Apprentice to shoemaking Denby,Derbyshire, John Leonard Parkin Son - Male 12 1889 - Belper, Derbyshire, *Thomas Cyril Parkin Son - Male 10 1891 - Belper, Derbyshire, Eva Emma Parkin Daughter - Female 5 1896 - Kilburn, Derbyshire, *Charles Gordon Parkin Son - Male 3 1898 - Nottinghamshire ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1911 Census For England & Wales 67 the Hill Kirkby - in - Ashfield Nottinghamshire, Kirkby in Ashfield, Nottinghamshire, England
James Henry Parkin Head Married Male 24 1887 Boot and shoe mnfr Derby Derbyshire Annie Maria Parkin Wife Married Female 21 1890 Shutlanger, Northants John Henry Gordon Parkin Son - Male 4 1907 Kirkby in Ashfield Ethel Eva Doreen Parkin Daughter Female 0 1911 Kirkby in Ashfield
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BECAUSE
1911 Census For England & Wales 43 Sheepwash Lane Mansfield Woodhouse, Mansfield Woodhouse, Nottinghamshire, England
William Moakes Head Married Male 40 187 Coal miner hewer Derbyshire Alfreton Eliza Ann Moakes Wife Married Female 37 1874 House keeper Derbyshire Alfreton ***Cyril Parkin Brother in law Single Male 17 1894 Clipper on haulage below ground Notts Skegby Sarah Ann Parkin Daughter Single Female 15 1896 Tin mill lady artist Notts Skegby Leonard Parkin Son - Male 13 1898 Pit bank cleaning coal Notts Sutton in Ashfield Gertrude Parkin Daughter - Female 11 1900 School Notts Sutton in Ashfield Percy Parkin Son - Male 9 1902 - Notts Sutton in Ashfield George Vermon Parkin Son - Male 7 1904 - Notts Sutton in Ashfield Olive Matilda Parkin Daughter - Female 4 1907 - Notts Sutton in Ashfield - Parkin Daughter - Female 0 1911 - Notts Mansfield Woodhouse
Took a second look at the Service Record for Cyril and his NOK does read as MOAKES but it does look like Noakes
Apologies, didn't want to delete what I had posted incase something is useful to you If not send me a PM and I will delete it
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14 May 2024 20:26 |
PARKIN, CYRIL (MMN) TAYLOR GRO Reference: 1894 M Quarter in MANSFIELD Volume 07B Page 95
PARKIN, ELIZA ANN TAYLOR GRO Reference: 1873 S Quarter in BELPER Volume 07B Page 512
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14 May 2024 20:20 |
Births Dec 1913 (>99%) Moakes Gladys R Parkin Mansfield 7b 151
Marriages Jun 1893 (>99%) Moakes William Mansfield 7b 146 Parkin Eliza Ann Mansfield 7b 146
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14 May 2024 20:15 |
1921 Census Of England & Wales 98, Yorke Street, Mansfield Woodhouse, Nottinghamshire, England
William Moakes Head Male 1871 50 Somercotes, Derbyshire, England Miner Welbeck Colliery Out Of Work Eliza Moakes Wife Female 1874 47 Somercotes, Derbyshire, England - - Percy Moakes Son Male 1901 20 Sutton in Ashfield, Nottinghamshire, England Miner Welbeck Colliery Out Of Work George Moakes Son Male 1904 17 Sutton in Ashfield, Nottinghamshire, England Miner Welbeck Colliery Out Of Work Olive Moakes Daughter Female 1907 14 Sutton in Ashfield, Nottinghamshire, England Hosiery Mender Wards Hosiery Factory Lydia Moakes Daughter Female 1911 10 Mansfield Woodhouse, Nottinghamshire, England - - Gladys Moakes Daughter Female 1914 7 Mansfield Woodhouse, Nottinghamshire, England - - Cyril Parkin Brother-in-law Male 1894 27 Skegby, Nottinghamshire, England Miner Welbeck Colliery Out Of Wor
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14 May 2024 19:59 |
Thanks jink20
I think Cyril probably is his brother but I will have to check it out
All the best
Jane
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14 May 2024 19:46 |
RE: ArgyllGran 14 May 2024 18:00
Name J. H. Parkin " Siblings Cyril Parkin Gordon Parkin
PARKIN, CYRIL -------Brother of J H ????---------
Place of birth: Meden Bank, Nottinghamshire, England Date of birth: 1894-03-07 Unit: Royal Canadian Regiment Regimental number: 477699 Enlistment date: 1915-08-23 Place of enlistment: Halifax, NS, Canada Record group: Canadian Expeditionary Force (CEF)
NOK Mrs L A Noakes (sister) 98? Yorke Street, Mansfield, Woodhouse, Notts.
+50 other (Parkin) WW1 Canadian Service Records
https://recherche-collection-search.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/Home/Search?DataSource=Genealogy%7cMilitary%7cPfFww&LastName=Parkin&num=50&start=0
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14 May 2024 19:22 |
Thanks ArgyllGran and greyghost
You are both really kind helping me with my research. I couldn't have done it without you.
Jane
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