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Florence61

Florence61 Report 10 May 2024 17:10

No way Gwynn, Lydd is def in Kent!! Use to stay with friends Gran in a holiday house in Lydd near the beach.

London Ashford Airport :-S :-S :-S

Heard it all now!

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 10 May 2024 11:18

The power stretches nearly to the south coast, names !

Lydd airport, - a small area out on Romney Marsh rejoices in the title 'London Ashford Airport'. :-S

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 9 May 2024 11:45

I think power has gone to someone’s head ;-)

Sine the Elizabeth Line was expanded to Reading that town has also become part of London apparently :-S :-S

Florence61

Florence61 Report 9 May 2024 11:20

names, Bracknell was always Berks but it seems that's now included in Greater London? Basingstoke is Hampshire.

I always thought that London was in the county of Middlesex and def not Kent.
Surrey is Surrey not London or Middlesex.

Why on earth do they keep changing things? Family research is hard enough when they couldn't spell their own names correctly!(no pun intended)

Ty ErikaH for the 1921 info and ArgyllGran very helpful.

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 9 May 2024 10:45

Florence, of course you are right about London and Kent. But you have to consider the old counties. Places like Woolwich and Plumstead, where you will find lots of ex servicemen, were once in Kent.

I wouldn’t claim to have been born in London. I was born in Middlesex and as far as I am concerned I was brought up in Surrey. Now both part of Greater London.

I recently read that Bracknell or Basingstoke ( can’t remember which) were in West London :-S

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 9 May 2024 10:45

Florence, of course you are right about London and Kent. But you have to consider the old counties. Places like Woolwich and Plumstead, where you will find lots of ex servicemen, were once in Kent.

I wouldn’t cjsim to have been born in London. I was born in Middlesex and as far as I am concerned I was brought up in Surrey. Now both part of Greater London.

I recently read that Bracknell or Basingstoke ( can’t remember which) were in West London :-S

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 May 2024 09:57

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
38, Manor Road, Erith, Dartford, Kent, England

George Appleton Head Married Male 35 1856 Labourer Hampshire, England
Alice Appleton Wife Married Female 34 1857 - London, Middlesex, England
Clara E Appleton Daughter - Female 12 1879 Scholar Erith, Kent, England
George Appleton Son - Male 9 1882 Scholar Erith, Kent, England
Alice M Appleton Daughter - Female 3 1888 Scholar Erith, Kent, England
Florence E Appleton Daughter - Female 0 1891 - Erith, Kent, England

APPLETON, CLARA HELEN BRAXTON
GRO Reference: 1878 D Quarter in DARTFORD Volume 02A Page 412

1921 Census Of England & Wales
105, Lower Road, Erith, Kent, England
George Appleton Head Male 1854 66 Hampshire, England Driver Engine Thomas Law Mills Steam Erith Kent
Alice Maud Appleton Wife Female 1854 67 Wapping, London, England House Wife -
Florence Emily Appleton Daughter Female 1892 29 Kent, England At Home No Occupation House Work
Clara Ellen Haggerty Daughter Female 1882 38 Kent, England Daily Worker Mr Jefferys Corn Merchant Erith Kent

Haggertay
Clara H
1879
1942
England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Dartford, Kent, England


ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 May 2024 09:49

1921 Census Of England & Wales
19, Wood Street, Brompton, Gillingham, Kent, England

William Haggerty Head Male 1878 42 Camberley, Surrey, England Clerk Book Keeper Re Record Office (Out Of Work)
Rosina Haggerty Wife Female 1878 42 Canterbury, Kent, England House Hold Duties -
Minnie Haggerty Daughter Female 1900 20 Woolwich, Kent, England Domestic Mr G Lingley Reiceving Laundry Office
Lillian Haggerty Daughter Female 1902 18 Woolwich, Kent, England - -
Kathleen Haggerty Daughter Female 1912 9 Chatham, Kent, England - -
John Hewett Lodger Male 1863 58 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Fitter Engine Government Hm Dockyard Chatham

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 May 2024 09:33

Re 1901 -
yes, Clara would have used William's surname for respectability.
They were living as husband and wife, and the children's births were registered under the name Haggerty.

Clara kept the name Haggerty for the rest of her life.

London and Plumstead were where they were living, not where William was born.

Just to add -
In 1921, William is in Gillingham, Kent, where he died in 1922.
In 1921, he's with Rosina; Rosina's daughter Lilian; his own daughter Minnie;
Kathleen 1912 ( his daughter with Rosina); and a sixth person whose surname apparently isn't Haggerty. (Don't have sub to see who it is.)

Good to see that he kept in touch with at least some of his first family.


HAGGERTY, KATHLEEN MARY mmn MARLOW
GRO Reference: 1912 J Quarter in MEDWAY Volume 02A Page 1388

Florence61

Florence61 Report 8 May 2024 22:32

But in 1901 census he is with his wife Clara and the 2 children so although it says wife, he must have lied but she gives her name as Clara Haggerty???

The reason I put Kent was because it put London, Kent but also Plumstead, london ,Kent. I personally wouldn't put London in Kent, it wasn't when I lived in Kent!

He chopped and changed his mind like the weather! But in the end he was buried in Kent,

Ty for all the info, nothing more to add now

Florence in the hebrides

Jink20

Jink20 Report 8 May 2024 21:12

In case you weren't aware- no image

Name William George Haggerty
Birth Date 1878
Death Date 31 May 1922
Cemetery Grange Road Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place Gillingham, Medway Unitary Authority, Kent, England
Has Bio? N
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/225508642/william-george-haggerty

Jink20

Jink20 Report 8 May 2024 21:01

Re-enlisted ???????

Medal card of Haggerty, William George
Reference: WO 372/8/192811
Description: Medal card of Haggerty, William George
Corps Regiment No Rank
Royal Army Medical Corps 87522 Private
Date: 1914-1920
Held by: The National Archives, Kew

Enlisted 24/10/ 1916
Discharged 11/09/1918

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 8 May 2024 20:11

OP says born Kent, which is obviously just an error by the poster

And, as I posted at 18:51, the Army recorded him as single in 1901

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 8 May 2024 19:42

1901 (with Clara), 1901 at Barracks, and 1911, all say William was born in Camberley.

His birth:

HAGGERTAY, WILLIAM GEORGE mmn RULE
GRO Reference: 1877 D Quarter in FARNHAM Volume 02A Page 93

Farnham reg district would have included Camberley.
There's no William G Heggarty (or other spelling) born in Kent, 1870-80.

ADDED:
1891 and 1881 say Sandhurst.
Sandhurst is about 2.5 miles from Camberley.

Jink20

Jink20 Report 8 May 2024 19:28

Only problem ......
Attestation paper reads William was born Camberley, Surrey ( fib??) attested in Shoebury, Essex

Your chap was born Kent

Florence61

Florence61 Report 8 May 2024 19:21

Jink20 ty for that info.

AG ty for the clarification

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 8 May 2024 19:14

The mention of Charles Milne in 1901 is a mistranscription.

For some reason, the enumerator has listed most of the many soldiers, including Charles Milne, (aged 24, born Scotland) as "son".

Goodness knows why the transcriber picked on Charles Milne as the "father" of William .

Jink20

Jink20 Report 8 May 2024 19:13

Served 15 Feb 92 until 14 Feb 1904

No Abroad Service

GSW left finger (illeg) accident not on duty

Re-signed 21 April 1904 until 20 April 1908

Florence61

Florence61 Report 8 May 2024 19:11

Williams father was James.

Does that mean he joined the army at 14 years old?

Jink20

Jink20 Report 8 May 2024 19:07

NOK for above reads "James" , 56 Ordnance Place, Chatham