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Jink20
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7 May 2024 13:06 |
Anyone with Ancestry worldwide could look at the following
New York, U.S., Index to Petitions for Naturalization filed in New York City, 1792-1989 Citizenship records Name David M Dunbar
U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s Passenger lists Name David M. Dunbar
New York, U.S., State and Federal Naturalization Records, 1794-1943 Citizenship Record Name David M Dunbar
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alviegal
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7 May 2024 13:41 |
First name(s) David Bride's father's name Thomas Fairbrother Last name Dunbar City or town Chester Marriage year 1878 County Cheshire Marriage date 02 Sep 1878 Country England Marriage place Chester Reference item 3 p 185 Parish St. Mary's-On-The-Hill Record set Cheshire Diocese Of Chester Parish Marriages 1538-1910 Spouse's first name(s) Martha Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Spouse's last name Fairbrother Subcategory Parish Marriages Spouse's age 19y Collections from England, Great Britain
He was of full age, a musician residing at Overleigh, father David was a seaman.
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ArgyllGran
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7 May 2024 15:11 |
Re your last post, Jink20 -
There are no David M Dunbars on any of those particular lists.
New York, U.S., State and Federal Naturalization Records, 1794-1943
Several David Dunbars with no middle initial, on that list. The earliest was 1868 (or 1858, depending on which page of the record you look at) with no identifying detail.
Re U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s -
Only two David Dunbars listed, with no middle initial or age, and no info other than year of arrival - 1856 and 1864, both arriving at Philadelphia.
Re : New York, U.S., Index to Petitions for Naturalization filed in New York City, 1792-1989
Only one David Dunbar, no middle initial. He's the same one as mentioned above, petition date 1868. He was British, a gardener, living in Hastings, NY. Looking at censuses and other records, that man married Hepburn Skinner in Penicuik in October 1854, they emigrated Oct/Nov 1854 , and they had several children.
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Jink20
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7 May 2024 18:01 |
FMP results for D* Dunbar in Britain, Merchant Seamen, 1835-1857
First name(s)Last name Birth year Birth place Birth county/country Series Piece
David Dunbar — Montrose Forfarshire BT114 7 David Dunbar— Larne Antrim BT114 7 David Dunbar—Pitsligo— BT114 7 David Dunbar—Antrim -Antrim BT114 7 David Dunbar—Donaghadee -Down BT113 254 David Dunbar 1800 Pitsligo Aberdeenshire BT113 128 David Dunbar 1830 Larne Antrim BT113 28
The National Archives' catalogue BT - Records of the Board of Trade and of successor and related bodies Division within BT - Records of the Registrar General of Shipping and Seamen and successor
Register of Seamen’s Tickets, 1845-1854 – the originals are in series BT 113 (a surname index to which is in BT 114 – though any ticket numbers above 546,00 in the indexes do not appear in the registers). See Appendix 4 for an example of a typical register entry from 1845-1854. There do not seem to be any ‘reported voyages’ in BT 113 for the years 1849, 1850 and 1854.
Register of Seamen Series III, 1853-1857 – the originals are in series BT 116. See Appendix 5 for an example of a typical register entry from 1853-1857.
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/browse/r/h/C478
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Jink20
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7 May 2024 18:36 |
Darren John- You will need to research this one for yourself
Royal Museum Greenwich website
Registrar General Of Shipping And Seamen, Agreements, Crew Lists And Official Logs (Manuscript) 1865 RSS/CL/1865/1377
"showing 1 archive results for 'RSS/CL/1865/1377' 17329 - Driver Please note that not every crew list has survived within the quoted ship number range so we cannot guarantee the list for the ship you require will be present (please see research guide C1)."
https://www.rmg.co.uk/collections/archive/rmgc-object-612457
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ErikaH
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7 May 2024 18:41 |
Has any of the in-depth research on this thread brought the OP any nearer to finding the names of David M’s parents?
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Jink20
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7 May 2024 18:42 |
Just found this, may be useful in the future
CLIP - the Crew List Index Project "CLIP is a not-for-profit volunteer project, set up to assist research into the records of British merchant seafarers of the late 19th and early 20th century.
The CLIP site provides information and data about the records of British merchant seafarers, mainly from 1863 to 1913. The site also provides information and data about the records of British merchant shipping with records of every British registered ship from 1855 to the 1950s"
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ArgyllGran
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7 May 2024 19:05 |
ErikaH - the answer is "no".
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Jink20
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7 May 2024 19:18 |
ErikaH
No.
But, it must surely must have helped eliminate a few possibilties I had hoped that perhaps by providing information regarding CLIPs,RMG there could be useful information contained within. ie Wills NOK etc And there is always the National Archives
Other queries bouncing around in my head included a. Could David M Dunbar have been born in Scotland, Ireland or USA,? ( but I would have thought FMP/Ancestry/Genes would have found something)
b.Patronym/Matronym - Marion as middle name, was he named after a GM/GF etc ?
c.soundlike middle name transcribed incorrectly ie Merrion, Merion etc ?
Again I thought one of the big databases would have turned something up...........
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ArgyllGran
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7 May 2024 23:46 |
There's no record of any David M Dunbar being baptised in Scotland , per SP or any other site - but of course that doesn't mean he couldn't have been born in Scotland.
The David M Dunbar on the NY City Directory was still listed in 1858, so presumably not the right man unless the list wasn't updated often.
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Darren John
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15 May 2024 17:20 |
thanks everyone, been busy so just seen everyone's messages, some messages that i have read they are his son who was born in 1856 in new york, the information she has is David Marion Dunbar born in 1807/1812 which one we are not sure, he emigrated to new york in 1836 with his then wife harriet ruffel, he worked on the clipper ships as first officer but that went down at sea in the atlantic in 1856 thats when his son David Dunbar was born who eventually moved to chester, cheshire his wife was martha fairbrother , his first wife was named mary ann spears.
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