Found James's death!
CROSS, JAMES 69 GRO Reference: 1886 M Quarter in WOKINGHAM Volume 02C Page 297
Digital cert says died 4/2/1886 at Twyford Whistley. Agricultural labourer. Died of "bronchitis, asphyxia". Informant: son Robert Cross, of Twyford Whistley.
James's son Robert lived in Twyford with wife Ann and family, in 1881 census and later.
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Robert’s birthplace is certainly given as Akeley on the census records I have seen - although FMP transcribes his forename as Roland on one of them. The image is not sufficiently clear for me to be able to submit a correction
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Many thanks for your efforts, ErikaH and Jink20.
I'm looking at James's death and Robert's birth as minor brick walls, about which I'm not worried enough to spend money at present, but I'll certainly consider all your suggestions, Jink.
Without having followed it up in any way so far, the Lambeth death might be a possibility, as James's son William (known by his middle name George) lived in various parts of London from somewhere between 1871 and 1881 onwards, employed in Black Rod's office at the House of Lords..
Other than that, I'll consider this thread closed.
James was a nephew of one of my gr-gr-gr-grandfathers..
I'm sure Robert would have been born in Akeley, as all his siblings were.
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ArgyllGran
Apologies. My posts are results you will have seen and excluded etc etc and is information you will have most likely found for yourself. Given the amount of research you submit for others I felt compelled to try to help you as best I could.
Based on James' approx. YOB, and age in the 1881 Census, I found these Death results which are inconclusive. I haven't researched any of them any further. I accept none of them are in King's Norton or Worcestershire, where Ann died.
James Cross 69 1817 Oct-Nov-Dec Lambeth, London, United Kingdom Dec 1886 Lambeth, United Kingdom 1d 308
James Cross 70 1817 Oct-Nov-Dec Ely, Cambridgeshire, United Kingdom Dec 1887 Cambridgeshire, United Kingdom 3b 350
James Cross 73 1815 Apr-May-Jun Dorchester, Dorset, United Kingdom Jun 1888 Dorset, United Kingdom 5a 225
James Cross 72 1818 Jan-Feb-Mar Burton upon Trent, Staffordshire Mar 1890 Staffordshire, United Kingdom 6b 302
James Cross 73 1817 Oct-Nov-Dec Tonbridge, Kent, United Kingdom Dec 1890 Kent, United Kingdom 2a 422
I have also looked at :both FindAGrave and BillionGraves- No exact match :King's Norton Death entries only -Negative result for James : FMP Newspaper listings- Briefly - No exact match found
Genuki result- Re Robert
The original copies of the Akeley parish registers have been deposited in the Buckinghamshire Record Office in Aylesbury, and they hold the following years:
Event Dates covered Christenings 1682 - 1979 Marriages 1688 - 1978 Banns 1789 - 1979 Burials 1682 - 1954
https://www.buckinghamshire.gov.uk/culture-and-tourism/archives/
£12.00 each
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That one's mmn is Rawlings.
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Have you checked the AMJ 1847 birth in Buckingham of a Male Cross?
I’m guessing that you have, as you will have used the GRO……………
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Just to say……..FMP have no suggestions for forward ‘links’ for him based on1881
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"Wife of James Cross, labourer."
The informant was her daughter Jane.
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How was Ann described on her death cert? (Wife, or widow)
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Maybe a fresh pair of eyes will spot the death of James Cross.
I have all details of his wife and all their children, so please don't bother with any of that.
He was born approx 1816-19 in Newport Pagnell, per censuses. (Because of the names of his children, I think he was possibly baptised 16/9/1815, son of Thomas and Sarah - but I'm only looking for his death.)
In 1838 he married Ann Holtom in Akeley, Bucks. He's in all the censuses up to and including 1881, with Ann and various children:
Thomas 1840, Levi 1842, Robert 1847, Mary Elizabeth 1849, Jane 1850, William George 1855. Three other daughters died in infancy and don't appear on censuses (Mary Anne 1844, Sarah Anne 1857, and Martha Ann 1859).
His wife Ann died in Kings Norton in 1884.
1881 is the last sighting of James. He is NOT with any of his children in later censuses - please don't spend time researching that.
James Cross in the 1881 England Census Name James Cross Age 64 Estimated Birth Year abt 1817 Relationship to Head Head Spouse Ann Cross Gender Male Where born Newport Pagnell, Bedfordshire, England Civil parish Kings Norton County/Island Worcestershire Country England Street Address Tanners Lane Marital Status Married Occupation Labourer Registration district Kings Norton ED, institution, or vessel 3 Neighbors Piece 2945 Folio 24 Page number 2 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship James Cross 64 Head Ann Cross 62 Wife Levi Thos. Roberts 11 Grandson Robert George Roberts 10 Grandson
(The grandchildren are the children of Mary Elizabeth, who died in 1871 .)
I assume James died between 1881 and 1891 - but can't find any record of it.
Also, I have all the children's birth records - except Robert 1847.
I'll be grateful if anyone can find James's death or Robert's birth.
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