Find Ancestors

It may simply be another of the countless inaccurate trees on Ancestry

The only daughter whose existence has so far been proved is Patricia

It was a good brain workout, with the boards being so quiet, AG ;-) ;-)

I'm still not seeing it, Names.

However, not to worry!
It was only a bit of fun, to see who that "Johnson Port Steaton" in 1939 was!

AG. I’ve not double checked but I think the tree was named Vent. It appeared to be private but wasn’t completely.

I've just found Bert and Emily with a Marjorie in 1945 - but her surname is Gray, so not necessarily any relation.

Johnson Bert Stinton
in the Liverpool, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1970
Name Johnson Bert Stinton
Residence Year 1945
Street Address Childwall Park Avenue 39
Residence Place Lancashire, England
Electoral District Liverpool, Wavertree, West Derby, Garston

Yes, apparently another unofficial partner.

As Emily died in 1961, in Cheshire, and is commemorated ONLY with her daughter, perhaps Daphne took her place?

Bert’s death was registered in St Marylebone. London

Names - you said a tree on Ancestry showed Bert having a daughter named Marjorie.

Which tree was that, please?
He's in 10 trees - 5 private and 5 public, but I don't see mention of Marjorie.

I'm also not seeing Bert and Emily with a Marjorie in 1945 - is that in an ER on Ancestry?


Here's Bert in 1945 - but on his own:

Bert Slinton-Johnson
in the Sutton, Surrey, England, Electoral Registers, 1931-1970
Name Bert Slinton-Johnson
Year 1945
Parliamentary Division Beddington and Wallington, Surrey, England
House Number 28
Reference Number 011
Address: 28 The Drive, Mitcham.


There's a Daphne Stinton-Johnson with him below (assuming this is the same man, with such an unusual name):

Bert Stinton-Johnson
in the Westminster, London, England, Electoral Registers, 1902-1970
Name Bert Stinton-Johnson
Residence Date 1955
Residence Street Address 3 Stanhope Place
Residence Place Paddington, London, England

They're also there in 1956.


She's also with Bert in 1964;

Daphne Stinton-Johnson
in the Westminster, London, England, Electoral Registers, 1902-1970
Name Daphne Stinton-Johnson
Residence Date 1964
Residence Street Address 236 Randolph Avenue
Residence Place London, England

In 1965-69 Bert's there on his own.

Definitely!

If this was serious research I think we would all be saying ‘Get the Certificates’.

The daughter Patricia's birth record (1926) gives mmn wrongly as Jarrett.

Bert and Emily appear not to have married - unless maybe abroad.

Failed miserably in quest for marriage between Bert and Emily :-( :-( :-(

She was living with Grandmother Wardell in Scarborough in 1901

1911 Census For England & Wales
31 Kennington Oval S E, Lambeth, London & Surrey, England

Charles James Proughten Head Married Male 50 1861 Army pensioner military clerk St Marys Islington London
Alice Mary Proughten Wife Married Female 47 1864 - St Marys Scarborough Yorks
Emily Mary Proughten Daughter Single Female 22 1889 Shawroom assistant Manchester Lancs
Florence Isabell Proughten Daughter Single Female 21 1890 Drapers assistant Seaforth Liverpool
George Herbert Radcliffe Boarder Single Male 25 1886 Solidier clerk a s corps Exeter Devon
William Roy Boarder Single Male 23 1888 Solidier clerk a s corps Wynberg So Africa

Well done, Names and ErikaH!

For some stupid reason, I hadn't checked for a death for him, which would have been the obvious thing to do!
I couldn't find anything for him - but now I look again, there are lots of records!

it looks as if he was probably born abroad, maybe India.

The 1919 travel record posted by ErikaH gives his "country of last permanent residence" as India. [EDIT: and other records, as noted by Names.]

Bert Stinton Johnson
in the UK and Ireland, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name Bert Stinton Johnson
Arrival Age 34
Birth Date abt 1885
Port of Departure Bombay, India
Arrival Date 18 Oct 1919
Port of Arrival London, England
Ports of Voyage Calcutta; Colombo; Port Said; Plymouth, Devon, England
Ship Name Mandala
Shipping Line British India Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number 137806

Name Bert Stenton Johnson
Gender Male
Departure Age 37
Birth Date abt 1885
Departure Date 28 Apr 1922
Departure Port England
Ship Name Madura
Shipping Line P & O S N Co
Destination Port Bombay, India
Master S G Oare

Name Emily Mary Stinton-Johnson
Birth Date 1889
Death Date 1961
Cemetery Frankby Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place Frankby, Metropolitan Borough of Wirral, Merseyside, England
Also daughter PATRICIA, who had three children

Name Henry Jarrett
Gender Male
Marriage Age 25
Record Type Marriage
Birth Date abt 1887
Marriage Date 18 May 1912
Marriage Place Saint Mark, Kennington: Kennington Park Road, Lambeth, England
Father Frederick John Jarrett
Spouse Emily Mary Proughton
Register Type Parish Register

Henry was in the Household Cavalry

She re-married in maiden name

Marriages Sep 1922 (>99%)
MASSEY Loveday Villiers-Stuart Hastings 2b 82
VILLIERS-STUART Percival G Massey Hastings 2b 82

A tree on Ancestry has Emily's details

Emily Mary W Proughten (Stinton) (Jarrett)
1888–
BIRTH 3 JUN 1888 • Seaforth Barracks, Merseyside, Cheshire, England

PROUGHTEN, EMILY MARY WALLER WARDELL
GRO Reference: 1888 J Quarter in WEST DERBY Volume 08B Page 522

And a daughter Patricia, whose birth and marriage are on freebmd. She died in 2009

On his journeys to and from Bombay he gives his country of residence as India.

Marriages Jun 1915 (>99%)
Johnson Bert S Massey St. Giles 1b 1557
Massey Loveday Stinton St.Giles 1b 1557
Massey Loveday Johnson St.Giles 1b 1557
Stinton Thomas Massey St.Giles 1b 1557


Stinton-Johnson Loveday (and Bert)
—
9, Chapel Park Road, Hastings
1918 (and 1919)
England & Wales, Electoral Registers 1910-1932
Sussex, England

Bert is in a tree on Ancestry - very little infor. Shows him having a daughter Marjorie - Bert & Emily were living with her in 1945

Bert may have married ??? Massey in 1915, St Giles London