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Re : Birth Registration Record.

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Malcolm

Malcolm Report 20 Mar 2024 15:43

Hi ErikaH.
Thank you for your message. I did say that this information had been passed down over time from family members on ear say only, however from the information so kindly given by you and others on this site, and what we have found in our research that this information does seem to be incorrect.
Take care.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Mar 2024 15:11

She wasn't born in Spain.......her birth was posted yesterday at 17.05.

Family gossip can't be relied on unless proof is provided ;-) ;-) ;-)

alviegal

alviegal Report 20 Mar 2024 14:01

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
19, Upper Baldwin Street, St Woollos, Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales
View original record
Household members (9 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Samuel Williams Head
Married Male 39 1852 Carpenter Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales
Celia Williams Wife
Married Female 36 1855 - Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales
William Hy Williams Son
Single Male 18 1873 Dock labourer Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales
Thomas Williams Son
Single Male 16 1875 Dock labourer Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales
Rose Williams Daughter
Single Female 12 1879 - Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales
Albert Williams Son
Single Male 10 1881 - Northampton, Northamptonshire, England
Laura Williams Daughter
Single Female 8 1883 - Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales
Sarah Williams Daughter
Single Female 6 1885 - Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales
August Williams Son
Single Male 2 1889 - Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
83, Baldwin Street, Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales
View original record
Household members (7 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Samuel Williams Head
Married Male 49 1852 Carpenter Neath, Glamorganshire, Wales
Celia Williams Wife
Married Female 47 1854 - Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales
Thomas Williams Son
Single Male 24 1877 Dock labourer Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales
Albert Williams Son
Single Male 21 1880 Dock labourer Northamptonshire, England
Rose Williams Daughter
Single Female 21 1880 Servant (domestic) Northamptonshire, England
Laura Williams Daughter
Single Female 18 1883 - Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales
Sarah Williams Daughter
- Female 16 1885 - Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Mar 2024 21:50

Parents married in 1873 in Newport, Mon

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 19 Mar 2024 21:39

Is this who you are looking for ?

Name Rosa A. Williams
Age 2
Estimated Birth Year abt 1879
Relation Granddaughter
Mother's Name Cecilia Williams
Gender Female
Where born Northamptonshire, England
Civil parish St Woollos
County/Island Monmouthshire
Country Wales
Street Address 10 Jedds St
Registration district Newport
Sub registration district Newport
ED, institution, or vessel 21
Neighbors View others on page
Piece 5264
Folio 68
Page number 20
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Enoch White
54
Head
Mary A. White
51
Wife
Saml. Williams
32
Son in Law (Son-in-law)
Cecilia Williams
26
Daughter in Law (Daughter-in-law)
William Williams
8
Grandson
Thomas Williams
6
Grandson
Rosa A. Williams 2 Granddaughter
Albert Williams
1
Grandson


Those birty registrations are correct though

Took a look at rose and it confirms father Samuel occ carpenter .mother Cecilia nee white

Born 23.8.1878

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 19 Mar 2024 21:36

How did you find her father as Samuel ?

That birth posted father is John not Samuel

Malcolm

Malcolm Report 19 Mar 2024 21:03

Hi Again Jink20.
It does seem that your first information could be correct for the individual that we are looking for, as her Father was Samuel Williams and her MMN was White.
And to Erika thank you again also, for your help and information, and all others.
Take care.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Mar 2024 19:59

This is where to find birth registrations pre-1911 with MMN and to order the digital copies referred to

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

Make a note...................you'll find it very useful

Also, censuses can be found on familysearch which is free

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 19 Mar 2024 19:13

You can order a digital copy online for £2.50 on the gro site by clicking on the record found and following the order

It will just be the info from the main part of the certificate which will show

Jink20

Jink20 Report 19 Mar 2024 18:12

Sibling ??

WILLIAMS, ALBERT SAMUEL MMN WHITE
GRO Reference: 1880 M Quarter in HARDINGSTONE Volume 03B Page 36

Jink20

Jink20 Report 19 Mar 2024 17:33

Same Rose ????????

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
116, Kettering Road, Northampton St Giles, Northampton, Northamptonshire, England

John Williams Head Married Male 41 1840 Tailor Knutsford, Cheshire, England
Sarah Williams Wife Married Female 38 1843 Tailors wife Ireland
Albert E Williams Son Single Male 14 1867 Juniour clerk,City of London, Middlesex, England
George H Williams Son Single Male 12 1869Telegraph messenger (cs)City of London, Middlesex, England
John J Williams Son Single Male 9 1872 Scholar City of London, Middlesex, England
Sarah E Williams Daughter Single Female 6 1875 Scholar Northampton, Northamptonshire, England
Rose A J Williams Daughter Single Female 2 1879 - Northampton, Northamptonshire, England

Malcolm

Malcolm Report 19 Mar 2024 17:26

Hi Jink20.
Thank you so much for your interest and help, which has been very much appreciated.
Kind Regards, take care.

Jink20

Jink20 Report 19 Mar 2024 17:06

WILLIAMS, ROSE ALICE MMN WHITE
GRO Reference: 1878 S Quarter in HARDINGSTONE Volume 03B Page 44

Malcolm

Malcolm Report 19 Mar 2024 16:28

Hi
I wonder if its possible for someone to find the possible father and mother, from a birth registration for a Rose Alice Williams 1880 Hardingstone, Northamptonshire, or would I have to contact the Registry Office in that area, any help would be very much appreciated.
Malcolm.