Hi ErikaH. Thank you for your message. I did say that this information had been passed down over time from family members on ear say only, however from the information so kindly given by you and others on this site, and what we have found in our research that this information does seem to be incorrect. Take care.
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She wasn't born in Spain.......her birth was posted yesterday at 17.05.
Family gossip can't be relied on unless proof is provided ;-) ;-) ;-)
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1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census 19, Upper Baldwin Street, St Woollos, Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales View original record Household members (9 people) First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Samuel Williams Head Married Male 39 1852 Carpenter Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales Celia Williams Wife Married Female 36 1855 - Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales William Hy Williams Son Single Male 18 1873 Dock labourer Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales Thomas Williams Son Single Male 16 1875 Dock labourer Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales Rose Williams Daughter Single Female 12 1879 - Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales Albert Williams Son Single Male 10 1881 - Northampton, Northamptonshire, England Laura Williams Daughter Single Female 8 1883 - Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales Sarah Williams Daughter Single Female 6 1885 - Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales August Williams Son Single Male 2 1889 - Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census 83, Baldwin Street, Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales View original record Household members (7 people) First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Samuel Williams Head Married Male 49 1852 Carpenter Neath, Glamorganshire, Wales Celia Williams Wife Married Female 47 1854 - Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales Thomas Williams Son Single Male 24 1877 Dock labourer Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales Albert Williams Son Single Male 21 1880 Dock labourer Northamptonshire, England Rose Williams Daughter Single Female 21 1880 Servant (domestic) Northamptonshire, England Laura Williams Daughter Single Female 18 1883 - Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales Sarah Williams Daughter - Female 16 1885 - Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales
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Parents married in 1873 in Newport, Mon
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Is this who you are looking for ?
Name Rosa A. Williams Age 2 Estimated Birth Year abt 1879 Relation Granddaughter Mother's Name Cecilia Williams Gender Female Where born Northamptonshire, England Civil parish St Woollos County/Island Monmouthshire Country Wales Street Address 10 Jedds St Registration district Newport Sub registration district Newport ED, institution, or vessel 21 Neighbors View others on page Piece 5264 Folio 68 Page number 20 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship Enoch White 54 Head Mary A. White 51 Wife Saml. Williams 32 Son in Law (Son-in-law) Cecilia Williams 26 Daughter in Law (Daughter-in-law) William Williams 8 Grandson Thomas Williams 6 Grandson Rosa A. Williams 2 Granddaughter Albert Williams 1 Grandson
Those birty registrations are correct though
Took a look at rose and it confirms father Samuel occ carpenter .mother Cecilia nee white
Born 23.8.1878
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How did you find her father as Samuel ?
That birth posted father is John not Samuel
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Hi Again Jink20. It does seem that your first information could be correct for the individual that we are looking for, as her Father was Samuel Williams and her MMN was White. And to Erika thank you again also, for your help and information, and all others. Take care.
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This is where to find birth registrations pre-1911 with MMN and to order the digital copies referred to
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp
Make a note...................you'll find it very useful
Also, censuses can be found on familysearch which is free
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You can order a digital copy online for £2.50 on the gro site by clicking on the record found and following the order
It will just be the info from the main part of the certificate which will show
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Sibling ??
WILLIAMS, ALBERT SAMUEL MMN WHITE GRO Reference: 1880 M Quarter in HARDINGSTONE Volume 03B Page 36
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Same Rose ????????
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census 116, Kettering Road, Northampton St Giles, Northampton, Northamptonshire, England
John Williams Head Married Male 41 1840 Tailor Knutsford, Cheshire, England Sarah Williams Wife Married Female 38 1843 Tailors wife Ireland Albert E Williams Son Single Male 14 1867 Juniour clerk,City of London, Middlesex, England George H Williams Son Single Male 12 1869Telegraph messenger (cs)City of London, Middlesex, England John J Williams Son Single Male 9 1872 Scholar City of London, Middlesex, England Sarah E Williams Daughter Single Female 6 1875 Scholar Northampton, Northamptonshire, England Rose A J Williams Daughter Single Female 2 1879 - Northampton, Northamptonshire, England
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Hi Jink20. Thank you so much for your interest and help, which has been very much appreciated. Kind Regards, take care.
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WILLIAMS, ROSE ALICE MMN WHITE GRO Reference: 1878 S Quarter in HARDINGSTONE Volume 03B Page 44
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Hi I wonder if its possible for someone to find the possible father and mother, from a birth registration for a Rose Alice Williams 1880 Hardingstone, Northamptonshire, or would I have to contact the Registry Office in that area, any help would be very much appreciated. Malcolm.
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