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Hello 'grannyfanny'!

Thank you for your tips about 'Captinfold'. Very kind.

:-)

Just idling through this, and would like to comment on the post about 'captinfold'.

There is a Castleton near Rochdale, on the Heywood side. And I see the girl was buried at St Luke's Church, which is in the centre of Heywood, about a mile from Captain Fold.

NO.....he almost certainly didn't 'adjust' his age. If he was over 21, which he clearly was, the record will say 'FULL'.......the transcribers automatically record that as '21', as they have to put a numerical value.

He wasn't even '21' when he married for the first time...................he was 29/30


Bear that in mind when researching................


You stated in your OP that he was born in 1768........................!

Oh, this is all very interesting and thank you for continuing to sleuth on my behalf.

I did in fact contact St. Chad's in Romiley and they very helpfully responded very quickly with a negative about Catherine's supposed burial there.

And now you have found both Miles and Catherine at Chorlton-on-Medlock buried together there. This is in the general area where we could have expected our ancestors to be buried/commemorated so an excellent result. THANK YOU.

Naughty Miles 'adjusting' his dob - probably to fit in with having such a young wife .... and it looks as if baby John didn't survive.

Always in awe of your researching skills. Thank you all again.
:-)

Name Mary Clayton
Sex Female
Father's Name Miles Clayton
Father's Sex Male
Event Type Burial
Event Date 16 June 1800
Event Place Heywood, Lancashire, England

Name Catherine Clayton
Event Type Death
Death Date 21 Jan 1800
Death Place Manchester, Lancashire
No Image Available
Cite This Record
"England and Wales Non-Conformist Record Indexes (RG4-8), 1588-1977," , FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VWCY-C2W : 11 December 2014), Catherine Clayton, 21 Jan 1800, Death; citing p. 24, Manchester, Lancashire, record group RG4, Public Record Office, London.

Name John Clayton
Sex Male
Father's Name Miles Clayton
Mother's Name Sophia Clayton
Event Type Baptism
Event Date 1811
Event Place St Peter's Church, Manchester, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom

Chorlton-on-Medlock Parish Graveyard Records

In memory of Miles Clayton, who died 3rd December 1836, aged 68 years. Also of Sophia, wife of Miles Clayton, who died December 11th 1824 aged 38 years

ErikaH suggested this burial for Catherine:

Catharine Clayton
in the Cheshire, England, Select Bishop's Transcripts, 1576-1933
Name Catharine Clayton
Gender Female
Burial Date 11 Feb 1806
Burial Place St. Chad's Romiley, Cheshire, England
FHL Film Number 1647367

"Romiley is a village in the Metropolitan Borough of Stockport, Greater Manchester, England. Historically part of Cheshire . . ."
[Wikipedia ]

The Cheshire/Manchester aspect is confusing.

Although the marriage record posted earlier is from Cheshire Marriage Licence Bonds And Allegations 1606-1905, Catherine Grierson married Miles in Manchester, and is described as "of Manchester" .


Catharine Grierson
in the Manchester, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930 (Cathedral)
Name Catharine Grierson
Marriage Date 15 Oct 1798
Parish Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George
Spouse's Name
Miles Clayton
Archive Roll 689

Age on such records is almost certainly simply ‘full’ which translates to ‘21’ when being transcribed........................


Burial: 7 Dec 1836 All Saints, Chorlton on Medlock, Lancashire
Miles Clayton -
Age: 68
Abode: Cheetham Hill
Buried By: Hart Ethelston Officiating Minister
Register: Burials 1820 - 1842, Page 161, Entry 1287
Source: LDS Film 2112986

Note the birth years he gives on these 2 records!

From FindMyPast (FMP)

Cheshire Marriage Licence Bonds And Allegations 1606-1905
Manchester

First name(s) Miles
Last name Clayton
Birth year 1777
Marriage year 1798
Marriage date 24 Sep 1798
Parish Manchester
Spouse's first name Catharine
Spouse's last name Grierson
Bride's age 21
Bride's residence Salford, Lancaster, Chester
Bride's marital status Spinster
Groom's age 21
Groom's residence Salford, Manchester, Lancaster, Chester
Groom's occupation Calier-ininter
Groom's marital status Batchelor
Place Manchester
County Cheshire
Country England
Record set Cheshire Marriage Licence Bonds And Allegations 1606-1905
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, Great Britain

Cheshire Marriage Licence Bonds And Allegations 1606-1905
Dean

First name(s) Miles
Last name Clayton
Birth year 1790
Marriage year 1811
Marriage date 19 Feb 1811
Parish Dean
Spouse's first name Sophia
Spouse's last name Hilton
Bride's age 21
Bride's residence Middle Hulton, Dean, Lancaster, Chester
Bride's marital status Spinster
Groom's age 21
Groom's residence Manchester, Lancaster, Chester
Groom's occupation Calico-printer
Groom's marital status Widowed
Place Dean
County Cheshire
Country England
Record set Cheshire Marriage Licence Bonds And Allegations 1606-1905
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, Great Britain

Did you notice that the baby Mary died at Captinfold in Castleton

Captain Fold is in or near Rochdale, Manchester, but Castleton is in Derbyshire!

To me, it looks as if Miles and Catharine had moved, and as there is no death on lancsopc for a Catharine Clayton, then it could be a little more difficult.

First name(s) Miles
Groom's age 21
Last name Clayton
Groom's residence Manchester, Lancaster, Chester
Birth year 1790
Groom's occupation Calico-printer
Marriage year 1811
Groom's marital status Widowed
Marriage date 19 Feb 1811
Place Dean
Parish Dean
County Cheshire
Spouse's first name Sophia
Country England
Spouse's last name Hilton
Record set Cheshire Marriage Licence Bonds And Allegations 1606-1905
Bride's age 21
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Bride's residence Middle Hulton, Dean, Lancaster, Chester
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Bride's marital status Spinster




First name(s) Miles
Groom's age 21
Last name Clayton
Groom's residence Salford, Manchester, Lancaster, Chester
Birth year 1777
Groom's occupation Calier-ininter
Marriage year 1798
Groom's marital status Batchelor
Marriage date 24 Sep 1798
Place Manchester
Parish Manchester
County Cheshire
Spouse's first name Catharine
Country England
Spouse's last name Grierson
Record set Cheshire Marriage Licence Bonds And Allegations 1606-1905
Bride's age 21
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Bride's residence Salford, Lancaster, Chester
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Bride's marital status Spinster

Baptism: 21 Aug 1799 Sacred Trinity, Salford, Lancashire
Mary Clayton - daughter of Miles Clayton & Catharine
Register: Baptisms 1797 - 1802 from the Bishop's Transcripts
Source: LDS Film 1545654

Burial: 16 Jun 1800 St Luke, Heywood, Lancashire
Mary Clayton - Daughter of Miles Clayton
Abode: Manchester
Buried By: Richard Longford, Curate
Notes: Died at Captinfold in Castleton
Register: Burials 1792 - 1800
Source: LDS Family Search

Thank you. Will tackle that site over the weekend.
:-)

Look at LanOPC site…………..invaluable

Have also looked in Members' Trees, LDS and Ancestry.

Name Mary Clayton
Sex Female
Father's Name Miles Clayton
Father's Sex Male
Mother's Name Catharine
Mother's Sex Female
Event Type Christening
Event Date 21 Aug 1799
Event Place Salford, Lancashire, England

Burial 11 Feb 1806 of Catherine Clayton aged 28 in Romiley, Stockport

Miles married Sophia in Cheshire

All postings are suggestions only……….

Marriage on FMP 24 Sep 1798 to Catherine Grierson. His occupation Calico Printer

Where have you looked?