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Nicola'S

Nicola'S Report 21 Mar 2024 14:46

Thank you everyone.

I've closed the thread.

:-)

Nicola'S

Nicola'S Report 28 Feb 2024 23:10

Gosh, what a tangled web we weave ......................

:-S

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Feb 2024 13:27

Lied about her age in 1939

Name Valerie Isabel Ida Hudson
Baptism Age 0
Birth Date 24 Mar 1900
Baptism Date 29 Jun 1900
Baptism Place Billingford (near East Dereham), England
Father Robert Hudson
Mother Olive Maud Hudson

Photo on Ancestry

Name Valerie De Haga Haig Later Fairtlough
Maiden Name Hudson
View Person on the National Portrait Gallery Website
https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/person/mp148026
Gender Female
Birth Date 1900
Occupation Former Wife of Rollo De Haga Haig, and Later Wife of Geoffrey Fairtlough; Daughter of Robert Hudson
Description Photographs
Artist Graphic Photo Union
Date Created 7 May 1924
NPG Number X45054

Second husband died 1992 in Laois, Ireland

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Feb 2024 11:07

Goda's mother didn't keep her with her

1939 Register
Blade Bear Hotel South Street, Wareham, Wareham M.B., Dorset, England
Valerie I I De Haga Fairclough (Haig) 24 Mar 1906 Female Lace Interior Decorator Widowed 82 11

There are simply NO direct descendants of the couple in question

Nicola'S

Nicola'S Report 28 Feb 2024 11:05

Thank you again ErikaH and others for all your hard work on this one.

It seems that we've reached a dead end in the search for any possible living descendants to whom I could pass on these lovely mementos.

Thank you everyone.
:-)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Feb 2024 10:56

??????????

FIRKINS, HUMPHREY WOODYATT MOORE
GRO Reference: 1925 M Quarter in WORCESTER Volume 06C Page 170

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Feb 2024 10:46

Name Goda Patricia Cobban
Marriage Registration Date 1950
Marriage Registration Place Victoria, Australia
Spouse
Humphrey Andrrew Firkins
Reference Number 13606

Name Goda Patricia Haig
[Goda Patricia Cobban]
Gender Female
Marriage Date 27 Sep 1950
Marriage Place Toorair
Father Henry Cobban
Spouse Humphrey Anarew Woodyatt


Name Goda Patricia Firkins
Death Age 73
Birth Date 15 Jan 1926
Death Date 23 Dec 1999
Burial Date 30 Dec 1999
Cemetery Coomera
Section M01
Cemetery Location Coomera, Queensland
Grave Place Grave 270
Remarks In Loving Memory of Goda Patricia FIRKINS 15.01.1926 - 23.12.1999 in one of the stars I shall be living in one of them I shall be laughing and so it will be as if all the stars were laughing when you


Name Goda Patricia Firkins
Gender Female
Electoral Date 1963
Electoral Place 825, Hampton Street, Brighton, Balaclava, Victoria, Australia
And Humphrey Andrew Firkins


Name Goda Firkins
Gender Female
Residence Place Melbourne
Death Date Abt 1999
Obituary Date 24 Dec 1999
Obituary Place Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Newspaper Title The Age
Spouse Julie

No other info on Ancestry

I doubt very much whether even Goda had any knowledge of William and Cleora. When she married, she named Henry Cobben as her father.
There is no record of her living with her birth parents as far as I can see

No mention on her headstone of ANY relations



ErikaH

ErikaH Report 27 Feb 2024 15:22

Perhaps you're the most appropriate person to have them..................

William and Cleora have no known living descendants, and you did know their son, and seem to have been fond of him

Nicola'S

Nicola'S Report 27 Feb 2024 14:02

Update:

Have contacted two GR trees and one of them has responded. We are only distantly related and don't share the same descendandy.

I'm still hopeful that I can return these beautiful family paintings to the family.

:-)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 27 Feb 2024 12:21

HAIG, PERCY DE HAYA DICK
GRO Reference: 1850 S Quarter in ST GILES IN THE FIELDS & ST GEORGE BLOOMSBURY Volume 01 Page 63

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 Feb 2024 22:44

Cleora Helen Bennett was the daughter of Thomas Henry Bennett and Cleora Helen Hudson, who married in Bengal in 1844. CH Hudson was born in 1822

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 Feb 2024 22:23

Wolseley’s first wife was an American widow Katherine Chittenden Emery, 10 years his senior, daughter of. Charles Augustus Murray of Vermont

Ancestry tree has:

Katherine Chittenden Murray-Emery-Haig
1874–1951
BIRTH 28 JAN 1874 • Burlington, Chittenden County, Vermont, United States of America
DEATH 8 MAY 1951 • Durban, South Africa

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 Feb 2024 21:30

The member with Cleora Bennett in his tree also has all the Haig names, so let’s hope he still has the same e-mail as when he registered with GR. And that he responds

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 Feb 2024 21:03

Easy to get confused with so many names being ‘thrown’ at you ;-) ;-)

Nicola'S

Nicola'S Report 26 Feb 2024 20:29

I knew that I should have compiled a tree from all these super notes. So apologies for getting my Herbert's/William's in a muddle.

And you're right GreyGhost, I should indeed order Gundred's will.

Watch this space.

:-)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 Feb 2024 18:37

Gundred’s father was HERBERT

Wolseley’s father was, as per OP, named WILLIAM. He was Herbert’s brother

You may find it beneficial to create a tree for this family

greyghost

greyghost Report 26 Feb 2024 18:15

Only £1.50 to order a will

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/help

Nicola'S

Nicola'S Report 26 Feb 2024 17:50

Massivew thank you to ErikaH for all her help on this one.

Wolseley's father's obituary mentions a married daughter and this is Gundred, see above. She left a handsome amount of money in 1965 but without ordering her Will I am unable to see if she left any of it to children which could help in locating descendants.

Wolseley's brother Rollo had a daughter Goda who appears to have married a 'Firkins' but all her records are in Australia. She may have married twice to a 'Cobban'. I don't have a worldwide subscription to try to trace her there.

So any blood descendants of my chap are still elusive. I have messaged a couple of member trees for his mother Cleora and await their reply.

I think I'm lucky to have such unusual first names in all of this but it hasn't made the search any easier! Wolseley, Rollo, Gundred, Goda, Cleora ............

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 Feb 2024 16:11

Name Gundred De Haga Scott-Moncrieff
Gender Female
Departure Age 46
Birth Date abt 1892
Departure Date 4 Feb 1938
Departure Port England
Ship Name Dempo
Shipping Line Rotterdam Lloyd Royal Dutch Mail
Destination Port Tangier, Morocco

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 Feb 2024 16:02

Name Gundrid I W De H Haig
Registration Date Oct 1917
[Nov 1917]
[Dec 1917]
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district Kensington
Inferred County London
Spouse
William S Moncrieff
Volume Number 1a
Page number 414


Name Gundred Iris Wolseley De Haga Haig Moncrieff
[Gundred Iris Wolseley De Haga Haig Scott-Moncrieff]
Death Date 14 Jul 1965
Death Place Suffolk, England
Probate Date 9 Nov 1965
Probate Registry Ipswich
Probate to Arthur James Day, Farmer