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Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*
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8 Feb 2024 21:16 |
In my tree I have this young lady:
TUCKER, Hannah Mary born 1873 Teversal (nr Tibshelf), Derbyshire.
1891 Census appears to find her living in Nottingham working as a Domestic Servant Henry E Matthews a Lace Draper and Dresser
1901 - I can't find her at all.
1911 - She appears to show up again visiting her Mother, Hannah Tucker born 1844 in Stanton by Dale, as Anna Mary Dear, wife of John Dear born 1867 in Barrow upon Soar, Leicestershire. Married 8 years.
For the life of me I cannot find a marriage them.
If anyone can crack this I'll be amazed. I've spent the last 6 months trying.
Thanks in anticipation.
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nameslessone
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8 Feb 2024 21:38 |
First reaction was that Sherlock Holmes didn’t marry. Maybe Hannah and John didn’t either.
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Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*
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8 Feb 2024 22:19 |
:-) Namelessone.
Now normally I don't search much beyond the given age - usually 5 years either side. So for once I decided to go 10 years either side of John's 1911 given age as he doesn't seem to track forward or back and found this:-
1901 Census.
Dear, John 'Head of the Household' born 1858 in Barrow upon Soar, Leicestershire. Occupation: Contracting Joiner and Carpenter. Dear, Emma - Wife - born 1862 in Barrow upon Soar, Leicestershire.
Living in Norton Woodseats, Derbyshire (Ecclesall Bierlow District)
Emma appears to die the following year in Ecclesall Bierlow District).
So it appears either John's fibbed about his age or Hannah's misheard/miswritten.
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ErikaH
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8 Feb 2024 22:20 |
Emma died OND 1902, so John was free to marry.
1921 Census Of England & Wales Roman Bank, Winthorpe, Lincolnshire, England John Dear Head Male 1857 64 - Barrow on Soar Joiner Own Account Annie Mary Dear Wife Female 1874 47 Tibshelf, Derbyshire, England Home Duties - Elizabeth Amy Hoff Visitor Female 1868 53 Kirk Braddan, Isle of Man, Isle of Man Home Duties - Amy Hoff Visitor Female 1901 19 Kirk Braddan, Isle of Man, Isle of Man Clerk Balm Hill & Sons, Lase Manufacturer Roy Arthur Riley Visitor Male 1900 21 Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Clerk Sawing Bank, Bankers Hannah Maria Gee Visitor Female 1885 36 Derbyshire, England Home Duties - Hilda Ellen Gee Visitor Female 1906 14 Nottinghamshire, England - -
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Jink20
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9 Feb 2024 11:41 |
Same John??
Attestation corps Volunteer For The Militia 13 Jany? 1876 First name(s) John Last name Dear Document type Attestation Birth year - Archive reference WO 96 Birth parish Barrow on Soar Series Wo 96 - Militia Service Records 1806-1915 Birth town Loughboro Box 345 Birth county Leicestershire Box record number 191 Birth country England Archive The National Archives Service number 7815 Country England Regiment Leicestershire Regiment Record set British Army Service Records Year - Category Military, armed forces & conflict Attestation age years 17 Subcategory Regimental & Service Records Attestation age months 10 Collections from Great Britain, England Attestation service number 7815
Birthday @ March 1858
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Jink20
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9 Feb 2024 12:10 |
Further to above record
6th December 1877 Trade : Carpenter
First name(s) John Last name Dear Document type Attestation Birth year 1858 Archive reference WO 97 Birth parish Barrow on Soar Series Wo 97 - Chelsea Pensioners British Army Service Records 1760-1913 Birth town Loughborough Box 1937 Birth county Leicestershire Box record number 83 Birth country England Archive The National Archives Service number 1029 Country England Regiment - Record set British Army Service Records Year 1877 Category Military, armed forces & conflict Attestation date 29 Nov 1877 Subcategory Regimental & Service Records Attestation age years 19 Collections from Great Britain, England Attestation service number 1029
Served Gibraltar 17 Sept 1878- 5 Jan 1879 West Indies 6 Jan 1879- 3 May 1881
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nameslessone
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9 Feb 2024 12:22 |
Joy, just because someone says they are married on a census form doesn’t necessarily mean they were legally married.
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9 Feb 2024 12:28 |
Hannah M Tacker in the 1901 England Census Name Hannah M Tacker Age 25 Estimated Birth Year abt 1876 Gender Female Birth Place Tibshelf, Derbyshire, England Civil parish Kensington Search Photos View blank form Ecclesiastical parish St Phillip County/Island London Country England Registration district Kensington Sub-registration district Brompton ED, institution, or vessel 25 Neighbors Piece 38 Folio 70 Page number 47 Household schedule number 290 Household Members (Name) Age Hannah M Tacker 25
She's a domestic servant in the household of Mary W Tanner , though the family isn't transcribed with her on Ancestry. There's a separate transcription for Mary Tanner with her son and daughter. Another servant Elizabeth M Ward, is listed in yet another separate transcription on Ancestry.
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ErikaH
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9 Feb 2024 12:34 |
FMP transcription
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census 11, Pembroke Road, Kensington, London & Middlesex, England Mary W Tanner Head Widow Female 64 1837 Independt means London, Middlesex, England Mary E Tanner Daughter Single Female 34 1867 - London, Middlesex, England Robert R? G Tanner Son Single Male 30 1871 Oil mercht Capel Green, Suffolk, England Elizabeth M Ward - Single Female 28 1873 Serv domes London, Middlesex, England Hannah M Tucker - Single Female 25 1876 Serv domes Tibshelf. Derbyshire, England
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