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Willie the adopted son - one of these ???


DAVIES, WILLIE LLWELLYN mmn TUDER
GRO Reference: 1905 M Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL Volume 11A Page 881


This one doesn't come up on GRO, so don't know what the middle name is:

Births Jun 1905 (>99%)
Jones Willie L Merthyr T. 11a 808a

This was the original registration:

JONES, WILLIE mmn REES
GRO Reference: 1905 J Quarter in LLANDILOFAWR Volume 11A Page 1273

The changes are handwritten at the bottom of the GRO Index page.




ADDED:

On further search, I see there are other possible births - not just those two.

For instance -

JONES, WILLIAM LLEWELLYN mmn GRIFFITHS
GRO Reference: 1906 S Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL Volume 11A Page 811

WILLIAMS, WILLIAM LLEWELLYN mmn LLEWELLYN
GRO Reference: 1906 M Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL Volume 11A Page 880

Gosh you guys and gals are great you given me more info to look into .Thank you.

This is the 1921 being suggested by fmp but not sure about it.

1921 Census Of England & Wales
4, Luther Street, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire, Wales

Household members (5 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer
William Jones Head
Male 1873 47 - Colliery Repairer Hills Plymouth Colliery Co Out Of Work
Sarah Ann Jones Wife
Female 1873 47 - Housewife At Home
Willie Llewellyn Jones Adopted son
Male 1905 16 - Collier Boy Guest Keen & Nettlefolds Colliery Co Out Of Work born Winchfawr nr Merthyr Tydfil
Gwynfryn Powell Son
Male 1919 1 - - -(mother dead)
David Powell Son-in-law
Male 1894 27 - Colliery Weigher Messrs Crawshay Bros Ltd Out Of Work (widower)


POWELL, GWYNFRYN JONES
GRO Reference: 1919 S Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL Volume 11A Page 1427


Marriages Sep 1918 (>99%)
>>Jones Christina Powell Merthyr T. 11a 1300
>>Powell David Jones Merthyr T. 11a 1300
Simons Margaret A Williams Merthyr T 11a 1300
Williams William J Simons Merthyr T. 11a 1300


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Deaths Jun 1921
POWELL Christiana 24 Merthyr T. 11a 659

1911 Census For England & Wales
20 Holford Street Cefn Coed Merthyr Tydfil, Vaynor, Breconshire, Wales
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Household members (4 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Jones Head
Married Male 37 1874 Coal miner hewer Glammorgan Merthyr
Sarah A Jones Wife
Married Female 37 1874 - Brecon Vayner
Cris Aie Ann Jones Daughter
- Female 14 1897 School Brecon Vayner
Willie Jones Son
- Male 5 1906 - Brecon Vayner

1901 census
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Fairview Houses, 8, Duffryn & Gelly, Vainor (Brecon), Merthyr Tydfil,
Household members (3 people)

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Jones Head Married Male 27 1874 Coal hewer below ground Merthyr, Glamorganshire, Wales
Sarah A Jones Wife Married Female 27 1874 - Brecknockshire, Wales
Christie H Jones Daughter - Female 4 1897 - Brecknockshire, Wales

JONES, CHRISTIE HANNAH WILLIAMS
GRO Reference: 1897 M Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL Volume 11A Page 740

Child is Christie Hannah, born JFM 1897. Look for the entry on the GRO index to verify MMN

I can’t C&P at the moment as I’m on iPad

Child Christie born c1897 with the probable couple in 1901…..perhaps you’d have a look, Shirley. Thanks

Age 22 when she married would mean born before 02/09/1873 if she gave accurate info

Sarah Ann Williams Birth year 1874 place of birth Cefn Coed Vaynor.
William Jones 1873 Cefn Coed Vaynor Occupation miner /hope this info helps.

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Name Sarah Ann Williams
Gender Female
Marital Status Spinster (Single (Female))
Marriage Age 22
Record Type Marriage
Birth Date 1873
Marriage Date 2 Sep 1895
Marriage Place Vaynor, Breconshire, Wales
Residence Place 24 High Street
Father
David Williams Williams
Spouse
William Jones
First Witness David Williams
Second Witness Ann Jones
Page number 54

Far to common surnames

You need to give more info

1901 would be the first step……..

BUT…we need birth years and birthplaces for both of them with such common names.

What was the groom’s occupation?

Sarah Ann Williams married William Jones on the 2/9/1895 in the parish of Vaynor Breconshire,both at the time living in the High Street Cefn Coed Vaynor.,can anyone check the census of 1911 and possibly 1921 to establish any info such as children and movement.I would really be grateful for your help.