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please look up for 1939 for winifred m muller

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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 Jan 2024 22:23

This appears to be Francis Godfrey in 1939 - but apparently not with his parents.
Seems to be with his grandmother and possibly an uncle and aunt:


Francis Muller Jr
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name Francis Muller Jr [Francis Godfrey Arthur Muller Jr]
Gender Male
Marital Status Single
Birth Date 15 Jul 1923
Residence Date 1939
Address 61
Residence Place Willesden, Middlesex, England
Occupation A R P; Capstan Machinist
Line Number 12
Schedule Number 124
Sub Schedule Number 4
Enumeration District Bxjo
Borough Willesden
Registration district 129.2
Household Members (Name) Gender
Beatrice E Muller Female - 2 Feb 1883, widowed [ later married Petro Lusardi in 1950]
Francis Muller Male - 21 Oct 1912, married , special constable & chauffeur mechanic [ name later changed to Franz Gottfried Jacomb MILLER ]
Faith P Muller Female - 20 Aug 1915, single [ later Hodson ]
Francis Muller Male
This record is officially closed.
Beatrice K Hodson Female - 21 March 1904, married
Lena V Watts Female - 6 Dec 1914, single [ later MILLER ]



Marriages Mar 1953 (>99%)
MILLER Francis J WATTS Willesden 5f 633
MULLER Franz G Y WATTS Willesden 5f 633
WATTS Lena V B MILLER Willesden 5f 633
WATTS Lena V B MULLER Willesden 5f 633

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 Jan 2024 22:10

Francis and Winifred had a son in 1923:

MULLER, FRANCIS GODFREY ARTHUR mmn CARVEY
GRO Reference: 1923 S Quarter in PADDINGTON Volume 01A Page 68


Francis Godfrey A Muller
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name Francis Godfrey A Muller
Death Age 49
Birth Date 15 Jul 1923
Registration Date Jan 1973 [Feb 1973] [Mar 1973]
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district Hillingdon
Inferred County Greater London
Volume 5c
Page 1246

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 Jan 2024 21:55

Also for ELIMINATION -

NOT this couple - John is also known as Hans, and he married Winifred M Smithers in 1921:

Winifred M Muller
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name Winifred M Muller
Gender Female
Marital Status Married
Birth Date 7 Jun 1894
Residence Date 1939
Address 26 the Drive Esher
Residence Place Esher, Surrey, England
Occupation Unpaid Domestic Duties
Line Number 17
Schedule Number 181
Sub Schedule Number 2
Enumeration District Cmpe
Borough Esher
Registration district 30.2.
Inferred Spouse
John Muller
Household Members (Name) Gender
John Muller Male
Winifred M Muller Female

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 Jan 2024 21:47

For elimination only -

This is NOT Francis:

1921 Census -
Francois Joseph
Muller
1877
Birthplace: Alsace, France
Residence: Fulham
Fulham
London, Middlesex

With wife Rosina (born 1881 in Berne, Switzerland) , Louise Francoise (1902 London) , and Helen Marie Josephine (1909 London).

He is with his wife Rosina in Fulham in 1939.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 Jan 2024 21:37

Marriages Mar 1923 (>99%)
Carvey Winifred M Muller Paddington 1a 100
Muller Francis J Carvey Paddington 1a 100

I don't see them in 1939.


??? (But no middle name, so maybe not);

CARVEY, WINIFRED mmn CHAPMAN
GRO Reference: 1904 D Quarter in FULHAM Volume 01A Page 235


Winnie Carvey
in the 1911 England Census
Name Winnie Carvey
Age in 1911 6
Estimated Birth Year abt 1905
Relation to Head Daughter
Gender Female
Birth Place Wharton Road, London, England
Civil parish Norwood
County/Island Middlesex
Country England
Street Address 57 Endsleigh Rd, Southall, Middx
Marital Status Single
Occupation School
Registration District Number 127
Sub-registration district Hayes
ED, institution, or vessel 18
Piece 6800
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Henry Carvey 48 Head
Harriett Carvey 46 Wife
Harry Carvey 22 Son
Alice Carvey 17 Daughter
Charles Carvey 15 Son
Louisa Carvey 12 Daughter
Edith Carvey 10 Daughter
Winnie Carvey 6 Daughter
Dorothey Carvey 3 Daughter


You probably need the marriage cert, to see her father's name, and her age.

malyon

malyon Report 31 Jan 2024 20:53

winifred married francis j muller1923 paddington sorry dont know when they were born thank you