|
ErikaH
Yes, I believe the children were living with Julia’s parents….no mention of Julia.
I’m sorry, I will remember this for future.
Yes, I am still trying to find info but only for Julia now.
I have info on the boys which I found last night, Both baptised in 1892, living at 20 Peartree Street, Holborn.
My reasoning for the initial query:
This Julia Stephens is the only one I can find with a birth date and place of birth which agree with other records.
I have had the thought for a while that she had either walked away or divorced her first husband. I’m wondering if this may be a factor for why there is absolutely zero record of her ever marrying Harry Baldock. She used his surname but there is no official record I can find and, believe me, I have spent hours and hours searching.
I can’t find a death in the name of Baldock or POOLEY for her either but Harry states he is a widower in 1911 when he is admitted to infirmary and subsequently dies.
Oh for a time machine so I could just go back and ask them!
Again, thank you so much for your help and I’m sorry if I am not giving the correct info, I still consider myself a novice at this.
Happy Christmas
Caroline
|
|
greyghost
Thank you.
Yes, I believe this is Julia’s parents Richard & Hannah.
|
|
"In 1891George and Edgar are living with a couple called Stevens in Holborn"
You say Julia'a parents were Richard and Hannah - so likely that they are living with their Stevens/Stephens grandparents
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
20, Peartree Street, St Luke, Holborn, London & Middlesex, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Richard Stevens Head Married Male 52 1839 Horse keeper Maidenhead, Berkshire, England
Anna Stevens Wife Married Female 52 1839 - Maidenhead, Berkshire, England
George Pooley - - Male 6 1885 - -
Edgar Pooley - - Male 5 1886 - -
James Browse Boarder - Male 27 1864 Labourer Tunstall, Suffolk, England
---------------
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
49, Gt Bland Street, Newington, St Saviour Southwark, London & Surrey, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Richard Stevens Head Married Male 43 1838 Contractors carman Berkshire, England
Hannah Stevens Wife Married Female 42 1839 Ironer Berkshire, England
Lucy Eliza J Stevens Daughter Single Female 18 1863 Machinist Old Windsor, Surrey, England
Julia Ann Stevens Daughter Single Female 14 1867 Servant domestic Guildford, Surrey, England
|
|
Name Edgar Richard Pooley
Gender Male
Record Type Baptism
Baptism Date Easter Thursday Apr 1892
Baptism Place St Paul, Clerkenwell, Islington, England
Father George Pooley...........Barman
Mother Julia Pooley
Address 20 Pear Tree
POOLEY, EDGAR STEVENS
GRO Reference: 1886 M Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 987
POOLEY, GEORGE WILLIAM STEVENS
GRO Reference: 1884 S Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 977
|
|
Facts..............................
Name George William Pooley....Occupation: PACKER
Gender Male
Marriage Age 21
Record Type Marriage
Birth Date abt 1863
Marriage Date 4 May 1884
Marriage Place All Saints, Walworth: Surrey Square, Southwark, England
Father James Pooley.............Brewer
Spouse Julia Ann Stevens
Name George William Pooley
Gender Male
Record Type Baptism
Baptism Date 28 Dec 1862
Baptism Place St Paul, Bermondsey, Southwark, England
Father James Pooley..........Cellarman
Mother Thirza Frances Pooley
Register Type Parish Register
Question................
Is this the one you've 'found' in 1891??
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Cecial Villa, Vincent Road, Tottenham, Edmonton, Middlesex, England
George W Pooley Head Married Male 30 1861 Carpenter & joiner Peckham
Elizabeth A Pooley Wife Married Female 26 1865 - Islington
Stephen R Pooley Son Single Male 4 1887 - Islington
George G Pooley Son - Male 1 1890 - Tottenham
If so................
POOLEY, STEPHEN ROBERT TAYLOR
GRO Reference: 1886 S Quarter in ISLINGTON Volume 01B Page 421
POOLEY, GEORGE GRIERSON TAYLOR
GRO Reference: 1890 M Quarter in EDMONTON Volume 03A Page 361
Marriages Sep 1882 (>99%)
Pooley George William Islington 1b 686
TAYLOR Elizabeth Apphia Islington 1b 686
1871 for the man who married JULIA
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Westmoreland Road, St Mary Newington, St Saviour Southwark, London & Surrey, England
James Pooley Head - Male 40 1831 - Essex, England
Thirza Pooley Wife - Female 36 1835 - Nottinghamshire, England
Henry Pooley Son - Male 11 1860 - Surrey, England
George Pooley Son - Male 8 1863 - Surrey, England
Frederick Pooley Son - Male 6 1865 - Surrey, England
Charles Pooley Son - Male 4 1867 - Surrey, England
Thirza Pooley Daughter - Female 2 1869 - Surrey, England
William John Pooley Son - Male 0 1871 - Surrey, England
|
|
The info about the woman seemed VERY familiar...is THIS the same one?
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1401582
|
|
It would be helpful if you could C&P 1891 to save us having to try to identify the one to which you refer
At the very least, tell us where and when George was born…and his occupation.
|
|
In 1891, George and Edgar were living with a couple named Stevens in Holborn.
Divorce was unheard-of for all but the seriously wealthy. Couples usually just went their separate ways and started again with new spouses………..married or otherwise
|
|
Just discovered Julia and George had a son, George William born 19/08/1884.
And Edgar Richard i13/12/1885
Explains why she was married at 17!
|
|
Goodness me don’t we open Pandoras box when we delve into our ancestors!
Have found
JULIA ANN STEPHENS
DOB: 24/09/1866
Born: Guildford, Surrey
Father is Richard Stephens
Mother is Hannah
Sibling is Lucy, DOB 16/08/1862 Old Windsor, Berks
Am happy with all details thus far but….seems Julia married
GEORGE WILLIAM POOLEY
at ALL SAINTS, NEWINGTON
on 04/05/1884
Julia was only 17 years old.
On the 1891 & 1901 census, George is married to Elizabeth A. POOLEY
I can’t find any trace of her death.
How do I go about tracing a divorce?
Something must surely have happened between 1884 & 1891
It’s my almost last puzzle piece, any help would be amazing, thanks in advance.
HAPPY CHRISTMAS ALL
|
