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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Dec 2023 19:45

Re-reading OP, I see that Arthur was actually a great aunt’s husband, therefore not the sibling of a grandparent and no blood connection to David

greyghost

greyghost Report 24 Dec 2023 16:52

Family not found as yet 1871

i know 1911/1921 census posted previously but repeated so all in one place.

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
1, Milton Road, Bow Aka St Mary Stratford-Le-Bow, Poplar, London & Middlesex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John W Malin Head Married Male 33 1848 General shopkeeper Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Clara Malin Wife Married Female 30 1851 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
John C Malin Son Single Male 11 1870 Scholar Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Elizabeth Malin Daughter Single Female 10 1871 Scholar Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Clara Malin Daughter Single Female 9 1872 Scholar Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Emily Malin Daughter Single Female 7 1874 Scholar Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Alice Malin Daughter Single Female 6 1875 Scholar Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Mary Malin Daughter Single Female 4 1877 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
George Malin Son Single Male 3 1878 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Albert Malin Son Single Male 0 1881 - Bow, Middlesex, England
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1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
560, Old Ford Road, Bow or Stratford Le Bow, Poplar, London & Middlesex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John W Malin Head Married Male 43 1848 Fish monger London, Middlesex, England
Clara Malin Wife Married Female 39 1852 Fish monger shop assistant London, Middlesex, England
Emily Malin Daughter Single Female 18 1873 Tailoress London, Middlesex, England
Alice Malin Daughter Single Female 16 1875 Tailoress Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Mary A Malin Daughter Single Female 14 1877 Scholar London, Middlesex, England
George Malin Son Single Male 13 1878 Scholar London, Middlesex, England
Arthur Malin Son - Male 6 1885 Scholar London, Middlesex, England
Florence Malin Daughter - Female 4 1887 Scholar London, Middlesex, England
Lillian Malin Daughter - Female 2 1889 - London, Middlesex, England
Edith Malin Daughter - Female 0 1891 - London, Middlesex, England

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1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
560, Old Ford Road East, Bow or Stratford-Le-Bow, Poplar, London & Middlesex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Malin Head Married Male 53 1848 Fishmonger shop keepr London, England
Clara Malin Wife Married Female 50 1851 Fishmonger assistt London, England
Arthur Malin Son Single Male 15 1886 Fishmonger assistt Bow, Middlesex, England
Flory Malin Daughter Single Female 13 1888 - Bow, Middlesex, England
Lillian L Malin Daughter Single Female 12 1889 - Bow, Middlesex, England
Edith B Malin Daughter - Female 10 1891 - Bow, Middlesex, England

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1911 Census For England & Wales
560 Old Ford Road Bow, Poplar Borough, London & Middlesex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Malin Head Married Male 63 1848 Fried fish shop London Old Ford
Clara Malin Wife Married Female 61 1850 Assisting business London Old Ford
Lily Malin Daughter Single Female 22 1889 Assitant London Old Ford
Edith Malin Daughter Single Female 20 1891 Assitant London Old Ford

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1921 Census Of England & Wales
4, Cowley Road, Wanstead, Essex & London, England
1921 census badge

First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer
John William Malin Head Male 1848 73 Bethnal Green, London, England Fishmonger Retired -
Clara Malin Wife Female 1850 70 Bethnal Green, London, England Home Duties -

greyghost

greyghost Report 24 Dec 2023 16:49

The other 14 - all mmn Ward from GRO. not many gaps !!
Copied over from freebmd, easier than copying individual from GRO

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

Births Dec 1870 (>99%)
Malin Elizabeth Clara Bethnal Green 1c 194 Md Benjamin Dean 1889 D1952

Births Mar 1872 (>99%)
MALIN Clara Emily Bethnal Green 1c 221 Md 1890 Henry James T Cartwright Alive 1911

Births Sep 1873 (>99%)
Malin Emily Bethnal Green 1c 180 Md 1893 to James George Moul Alive 1911

Births Mar 1875 (>99%)
MALIN Alice Mary Bethnal Green 1c 214 Md 1892 George Holmes Alive 1911

Births Sep 1876 (>99%)
MALIN Mary Ann E Bethnal Green 1c 198 Md 1897 George FredK Gilbert Alive 1911

Births Mar 1878 (>99%)
Malin George Arthur Bethnal Green 1c 185 Died 1892

Births Sep 1879 (>99%)
MALIN Caroline Ada Poplar 1c 620 Died 1880

Births Jun 1881 (>99%)
MALIN Albert Edward Poplar 1c 573 Died 1881

Births Jun 1882 (>99%)
MALIN Ada Ellen Poplar 1c 580 Died 1883

Births Jun 1885 (>99%)
MALIN Arthur Albert Poplar 1c 559 Died 1968

Births Sep 1887 (>99%)
MALIN Florence Lilian Poplar 1c 559 Md 1909 James Sansford D 1971

Births Jun 1889 (>99%)
MALIN Lilian Louise Poplar 1c 558 Md 1911 Nathan F Humphrey Alive 1911

Births Mar 1891 (>99%)
Malin Edith Blanche Poplar 1c 601 Alive 1911 Married 1914 Thomas Labrum

Births Sep 1892 (>99%)
Malin Caroline Edith Poplar 1c 570 Died 1892


You can search for any family of the above pairs post their marriages






ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Dec 2023 16:06

Marriage info posted earlier

greyghost

greyghost Report 24 Dec 2023 16:01

John Charles MalinG - one of those I've counted (parents married Q3 1868, so first child unless any born pre marriage and counted in

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
MALING, JOHN CHARLES WARD
GRO Reference: 1869 S Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 211

Married Eliza PRIDMORE 1887
Died 1909

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Dec 2023 13:55

No penalty for not registering births until 1875

This one wasn't registered as far as I can determine

Name John Chas Malin
Gender Male
Age 9
Birth Date 10 Jul 1869
Admission Date 24 Feb 1879
School Atley Road School
Father John Malin
Notes Atley Road School (0173) opened in 1873. Remodelled in 1910. Renamed George Lansbury Primary School in 1951

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Dec 2023 13:49

Name John William Malin
Gender Male
Marriage Age 21
Record Type Marriage
Birth Date abt 1847
Marriage Date 2 Aug 1868
Marriage Place Saint Peter, Bethnal Green: Saint Peter's Avenue, Tower Hamlets, England
Father Charles James Malin
Spouse Clara Ward.....age 18 yrs
Father John Ward

greyghost

greyghost Report 24 Dec 2023 13:48

Have found 15 births at the moment

By 1911, 9 of those are alive but 6 have died

Another 3 births to find or did they count stillbirths (not registered) or miscarriages perhaps

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Dec 2023 13:03

Malin
Arthur Albert
16, Catford Road, Thornton Heath
18/04/1968
England & Wales Government Probate Death Index 1858-2019
Surrey, England

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Dec 2023 13:01

1921 Census Of England & Wales
4, Cowley Road, Wanstead, Essex & London, England
John William Malin Head Male 1848 73 Bethnal Green, London, England Fishmonger Retired -
Clara Malin Wife Female 1850 70 Bethnal Green, London, England Home Duties -

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Dec 2023 12:52


You obviously have the following......................work forward from it.............

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
560, Old Ford Road East, Bow or Stratford-Le-Bow, Poplar, London & Middlesex, England

John Malin Head Married Male 53 1848 Fishmonger shop keepr London, England
Clara Malin Wife Married Female 50 1851 Fishmonger assistt London, England
Arthur Malin Son Single Male 15 1886 Fishmonger assistt Bow, Middlesex, England
Flory Malin Daughter Single Female 13 1888 - Bow, Middlesex, England
Lillian L Malin Daughter Single Female 12 1889 - Bow, Middlesex, England
Edith B Malin Daughter - Female 10 1891 - Bow, Middlesex, England

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Dec 2023 12:50

Military Tribunal

First name(s) A
Nature of appeal D, G
Last name Malin
Date received 02 Jan 1917
Birth year 1886
Case serial number 1792
Hearing year 1917
County Middlesex
Hearing date 08 Feb 1917
Country England
Occupation Fishmonger
Record set Middlesex, Poplar, Military Tribunals 1916-1918
Address 560 Old Ford Road
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Town Poplar
Subcategory First World War
Person appealing M
Collections from England, Great Britain

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Dec 2023 12:31

To give you a kick-start...........

MALIN, ARTHUR ALBERT (MMN) WARD
GRO Reference: 1885 J Quarter in POPLAR Volume 01C Page 559

Now look for siblings....................

greyghost

greyghost Report 24 Dec 2023 12:10

The entry referred to for Arthur from the 1939 register (shown here in a different format from earlier.)

Also on the 1911/1921 census already shown with place of birth given

1939 Register
17 Woodville Road, T Heath, Croydon, Croydon C.B., Surrey, England

First name(s) Last name(s) Birth date Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule sub number
Arthur A Malin 09 May 1885 Male Fishmonger Married 399 1
Lavinia A Malin 14 Apr 1883 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 399 2

As he was born before Q4 1911 you'll need to use the GRO site to find his Mother's maiden name.

You can then check for other births with the same combination of names and look for a marriage of the parents.

Then look for census with the family on

Then check census to find the family

The 1911 census for the family says married 44 years with 18 children born, of which 9 have died!

EDIT - Have found 15 births - 9 alive 1911 and 6 died

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 24 Dec 2023 10:19

You do have to register with the GRO but it IS free. You may already have done this if you have purchased certificates as suggested.

If you don’t know how sites like freebmd work try and copy the infirmstion you have already been given.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Dec 2023 09:24

Find Arthur's birth registration on the GRO site then look for siblings using the two surnames.

You refer to him as your great uncle - therefore one of his siblings must have been your grandparent

Much more fun for you to find things for yourself as far as possible

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 24 Dec 2023 08:29

Look for Arthur on the various census.

Use the freebmd site mentioned earlier

Try the sister sites of freereg.org.uk and freecen.org.uk

David

David Report 24 Dec 2023 04:48

Thanks everyone for this information its much appreciated. I would like help now with Brothers etc of my Great Uncle Arthur Malin who is mentioned above.

greyghost

greyghost Report 23 Dec 2023 11:59

And Lily. Appears to be 2 children at this point, you can check for others.

As Patricia's details are "open" on the register, it indicates that she has died. She married a second time to SAWYER. The surname change was noted on the register on 4.7.1955 - not necessarily the date of the marriage but only when the change was made.

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1933 (>99%)
Malin Lily L Smith Croydon 2a 910
Smith Leslie J Malin Croydon 2a 910

1939 Register
779 Rochester Way, Bexley, Bexley M.B., Kent, England

First name(s) Last name(s) Birth date Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule sub number
Leslie J Smith 05 Jan 1908 Male Co-Op Society Grocery Clerk Married 143 1
Lily L Smith 08 Mar 1908 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 143 2
Patricia L Sawyer (Smith) 02 Mar 1934 Female At School Single 143 3

You can google to find out more about the 1939 register

greyghost

greyghost Report 23 Dec 2023 11:52

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1937 (>99%)
Bartlett Thomas H Malin Croydon 2a 1404
Malin Doris I Bartlett Croydon 2a 1404

Looks like Doris married a further twice - first to SEAR and then PYKE (not Pyute - bad transcription). Thomas may already be in the forces and so not registered at home.

Possibly 2 children by 1939, (closed records) but info. withheld due to 100 year rule. You can search these records yourself

1939 Register
58 Townmead Road, Sands End, Hammersmith And Fulham, Fulham, London, England

First name(s) Last name(s) Birth date Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule sub number
Doris I Pyute (Sear,Bartlett) 26 Aug 1914 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 63 1
The record for this person is officially closed.
The record for this person is officially closed.