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7 Dec 2023 19:34 |
Having difficulty finding Harriet Lloyd born 1888 in Flint Flintshire North Wales. Last reading was the 1911 census where she was single and living with her parents. Also in the house were here single brothers. Have looked in deaths and Marriage records for a couple of years thinking I have left some info out!!! Any advice would be appreciated in the search for Harriet to finish that part of the tree.
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ArgyllGran
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7 Dec 2023 20:22 |
Posting 1911 for helpers' reference:
Harriet Lloyd in the 1911 Wales Census Name Harriet Lloyd Age in 1911 23 Estimated Birth Year abt 1888 Relation to Head Daughter Gender Female Birth Place Flint, Flintshire, Wales Civil parish Flint County/Island Flintshire Country Wales Street Address 8 Corporation Street Flint Marital Status Single Registration district Holywell Registration District Number 619 Sub-registration district Flint ED, institution, or vessel 06 Household schedule number 213 Piece 33937 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship John Lloyd 59 Head Martha Lloyd 58 Wife Harriet Lloyd 23 Daughter Edward Lloyd 32 Son Albert Lloyd 20 Son Harrold Lloyd 17 Son Ernest Lloyd 14 Son
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greyghost
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7 Dec 2023 20:33 |
?? 1921 Census Of England & Wales 9, Corporation Street, Flint, Flintshire, Wales
William Collier Head Male 1887 34 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Boiler Fireman John Summers Sons Ltd Steel Manufacturers Out Of Work Frances Collier Wife Female 1882 38 Flint, Flintshire, Wales Home Duties - Gladys May Smith Step-daughter Female 1904 17 Chester, Cheshire, England Silk Worker Sorter Courtaulds Ltd Silk Manufacturers Out Of Work Dorothy Smith Step-daughter Female 1906 14 Chester, Cheshire, England Silk Worker Presser Courtaulds Ltd Silk Manufacturers Out Of Work Martha Collier Daughter Female 1910 11 Flint, Flintshire, Wales - - Evelyn Collier Daughter Female 1912 9 Flint, Flintshire, Wales - - Mona Collier Daughter Female 1915 6 Flint, Flintshire, Wales - - Phyllis Collier Daughter Female 1920 1 Flint, Flintshire, Wales - - Harriet Lloyd Sister-in-law Female 1888 33 Flint, Flintshire, Wales General Domestic Servant Private Thomas Lloyd Great nephew Male 1921 0 Holywell, Flintshire, Wales - -
-------------- Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page Births Mar 1915 (>99%) Collier Mona Lloyd Holywell 11b 357
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greyghost
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7 Dec 2023 20:37 |
Frances and Harriet together
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census 4, Marsh Lane, Flint, Holywell, Flintshire, Wales View original record
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Lloyd Head Married Male 48 1853 Chemical labourer Halkin, Flintshire, Wales Martha Lloyd Wife Married Female 47 1854 - Flint, Flintshire, Wales William Lloyd Son Single Male 25 1876 Stoker Flint, Flintshire, Wales Edward Lloyd Son Single Male 23 1878 Colliery fireman Flint, Flintshire, Wales Frances Lloyd Daughter Single Female 19 1882 Domestic service Flint, Flintshire, Wales Harriet Lloyd Daughter Single Female 12 1889 - Flint, Flintshire, Wales
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greyghost
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7 Dec 2023 20:41 |
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Mar 1904 (>99% Hughes Thomas Edward Chester 8a 561 Lloyd Francess Chester 8a 561 <<<<<<<<< Smith Albert Chester 8a 561 <<<<<<<< Williams Elizabeth Chester 8a 561
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greyghost
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7 Dec 2023 20:46 |
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Dec 1909 (>99%) BALL Bessie May Chester 8a 695 COLLIER William Chester 8a 695 <<<<<<<< MORGAN Robert Chester 8a 695 SMITH Frances Chester 8a 695 <<<<<<
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greyghost
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7 Dec 2023 20:58 |
No other first names to help with marriage / death records
Unless you have her birth certificate she could have been born late 1887 as 6 weeks was allowed in which to register a birth.
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: LLOYD, HARRIET BLUNT GRO Reference: 1888 M Quarter in HOLYWELL Volume 11B Page 230
IF you have the BC, what was her actual birth date please
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greyghost
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7 Dec 2023 21:02 |
Flintshire Baptisms Flint, Flintshire, Wales
First name(s) Harriet Last name Lloyd Baptism year 1888 Baptism date 08 Mar 1888 Birth year 1888 Birth date ? ? 1888 Father's first name(s) John Mother's first name(s) Martha Place Flint Page 16 County Flintshire Country Wales Record set Flintshire Baptisms Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Baptisms Collections from Wales, Great Britain Welsh Archive Services / Gwasanaethau Archifau Cymru
From original - Abode looks like "The Marsh"
no date of birth given on baptism record
--------------------- Harriet Lloyd in 1891 1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census 5, The Marsh, Flint, Holywell, Flintshire, Wales
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Lloyd Head Married Male 39 1852 Chemical labourer Flintshire, Wales Martha Lloyd Wife Married Female 38 1853 - Flint, Flintshire, Wales Margaret Lloyd Daughter Single Female 17 1874 - Flint, Flintshire, Wales Elizabeth A Lloyd Daughter Single Female 10 1881 - Flint, Flintshire, Wales Frances Lloyd Daughter Single Female 8 1883 - Flint, Flintshire, Wales Harriet Lloyd Daughter Single Female 3 1888 - Flint, Flintshire, Wales William J Lloyd Son Single Male 15 1876 Coopers labourer Flint, Flintshire, Wales Edward Lloyd Son Single Male 13 1878 - Flint, Flintshire, Wales Llewellyn Lloyd Son Single Male 5 1886 - Flint, Flintshire, Wales John A Lloyd Son Single Male 0 1891 - Flint, Flintshire, Wales
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alviegal
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7 Dec 2023 21:02 |
Thomas is Harriet's son.
First name(s) Thomas Mother's first name(s) Harriet Last name Lloyd Page 29 Birth year 1921 County Flintshire Birth date ? ? 1921 Country Wales Baptism year 1921 Record set Flintshire Baptisms Baptism date 12 Feb 1921 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Place Holywell Subcategory Parish Baptisms Father's first name(s) - Collections from Wales, Great Britain
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greyghost
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7 Dec 2023 21:06 |
Said to be 33 years and 4 months old in 1921 census which was taken 19 June 1921 so should be a birth around late January, first half February if accurate
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greyghost
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7 Dec 2023 21:26 |
11 family trees on Ancestry with her in - none have a date of birth or go beyond 1911
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Jink20
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7 Dec 2023 21:58 |
FamilySearch has a tree for Harriet Paternal branch dates to 1756 Maternal 1796
Some entries have records attached which you would need to verify. No date of birth for Harriet
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/portrait/GC89-9SH
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Jink20
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8 Dec 2023 00:02 |
FMP search parameters -Harriet Lloyd 1888 YOB
3 Results
(1) Lloyd, Harriet 1915 England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005 Holywell, Flintshire, Wales
First name Harriet Last name Lloyd Country Wales Marriage quarter 4 Volume 11B Marriage year 1915 Volume as transcribed 11B Registration month - Page number 452 MarriageFinder™ Harriet Lloyd married one of these people Robert J Davies
1939 Register Harriet Davies Flintshire, Wales
1 Penicl Villas, Greenfield, Holywell U.D., Flintshire, Wales Robert Jones Davies 03 May 1884 Male Coal Salesman Harriet Davies 23 Apr 1892 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties
Not Identical YOB According to Google Holywell is 5 miles from Flint
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(2) Lloyd, Harriet 1937 England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005 Hawarden, Flintshire, Wales First name Harriet Last name Lloyd Country Wales Marriage quarter 1 Volume 11B Marriage year 1937 Volume as transcribed 11B Registration month - Page number 418 MarriageFinder™ Harriet Lloyd married one of these people James Morgan
1939 Register Harriet Morgan Flintshire, Wales 1939
1 Dee Bank Hall Chester Road E,Shatton, Hawarden, Hawarden R.D., Flintshire, Wales James (T) Morgan 02 Mar 1864 Male Retired Harriet Morgan ? Feb 1889 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties
On looking at the original the "?" appears to be a 6. 6 Feb 1889
According to Google Hawarden is about 8 miles from Flint.
Greyghost entry 7 Dec 2023 20:37 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Harriet Lloyd Daughter Single Female 12 1889 - Flint, Flintshire, Wales
Harriet is incorrectly recorded in the 1901 Census as 1889 YOB Harriet in this 1939 Register entry is also recorded as 1889 YOB
Same person??
I am aware that it is not conclusive proof as to being the same Harriet being sought after as there is no BC to confirm.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (3) Lloyd,Harriet 1938 England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005 Holywell, Flintshire, Wales
Marriage quarter 3 Volume 11B Marriage year 1938 Volume as transcribed 11B Registration month - Page number 335 MarriageFinder™ Harriet Lloyd married one of these people William Davies
Two 1939 Register entries are offered for Harriet Davies
William Davies 04 Jun 1874 Male General Labourer Married 308 1 Harriet Davies 01 Aug 1875 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Camarthanshire
William Davies 15 Dec 1890 Male Store Keeper Petroleum Storage Harriet Davies 30 Oct 1888 Female Shop & Café Proprietor Anglesey
Not the correct birth year (Camarthanshire)/ birth month (Anglesey)
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ErikaH
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8 Dec 2023 08:35 |
Harriet was unmarried in 1921 as per census Her son was 6 months of age
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ArgyllGran
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8 Dec 2023 09:26 |
Possible death of the Harriet who married James Morgan in 1937:
Harriet Morgan in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name Harriet Morgan Death Age 73 Birth Date abt 1889 Registration Date Jan 1962 [Feb 1962] [Mar 1962] Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar Registration district Holywell Inferred County Flintshire Volume 8a Page 628
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ArgyllGran
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8 Dec 2023 09:34 |
Thomas's birth:
Thomas Lloyd in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1916-2007 Name Thomas Lloyd Registration Date Oct 1920 [Nov 1920] [Dec 1920] Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district Holywell Inferred County Flintshire Mother's Maiden Name Lloyd Volume Number 11b Page number 315
Possible marriage ???
Thomas Lloyd in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005 Name Thomas Lloyd Registration Date Jan 1942 [Feb 1942] [Mar 1942] Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar Registration district Hawarden Inferred County Flintshire Spouse Evelyn Williams Volume Number 11b Page number 667
Possible death???
Thomas Lloyd in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name Thomas Lloyd Death Age 41 Birth Date abt 1921 Registration Date Jan 1962 [Feb 1962] [Mar 1962] Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar Registration district Hawarden Inferred County Flintshire Volume 8a Page 603
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ErikaH
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8 Dec 2023 10:23 |
The woman from above marriage.........living next door to Harriet Morgan!!
1939 Register Dee Bank Ctge Chester Road E,Shotton, Hawarden, Hawarden R.D., Flintshire, Wales J William Williams 06 Apr 1896 Male Labourer Steelworks Hw Married 240 1 Lilian (Lily) William 09 Jul 1901 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 240 2 Evelyn Lloyd (Williams) 27 Oct 1920 Female Land Worker Single 240 3 Dennis Williams 28 Jul 1922 Male Steel Rolling Mill Single 240 4
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ErikaH
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14 Dec 2023 08:50 |
PM sent advising OP of info posted………OPENED
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