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Terence
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5 Dec 2023 17:00 |
Hello everyone. I am trying to get the birth registration ,volume and page references for a William Clarkson born in the registration Quarter of jan-feb-mar 1875 in Preston,Lancashire,England.I know he was baptised on the 26th of December 1875 at St. Johns Preston Lancashire,child of William Clarkson and Maria,abode Corry st. Preston,lancs.Iwould be very grateful for any help on this. thankyou Terry
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ErikaH
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5 Dec 2023 17:40 |
Go to freebmd and look
Or the GRO site where you can input MMN
Both sites FREE
Also try LancsBMD. - another FREE site which gives MMN in many instances
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5 Dec 2023 18:10 |
Births Mar 1875 (>99%) Clarkson William Ormskirk 8b 775 Scan available - click to view Clarkson William Leeds 9b 449 Scan available - click to view Clarkson William Henry Chorley 8e 516 Scan available - click to view Clarkson William Thomas Burnley 8e 195 Scan available - click to view.
Births Jun 1875 (>99%) Clarkson William Ecclesall B. 9c 344 Scan available - click to view.
Births Sep 1875 (>99%) Clarkson William Greenwich 1d 849 Scan available - click to view Clarkson William Robert W. Derby 8b 338 Scan available - click to view.
Births Dec 1875 (>99%) Clarkson William Preston 8e 537 Scan available - click to view Clarkson William Chorlton 8c 740 Scan available - click to view Clarkson William Rotherham 9c 673 Scan available - click to view Clarkson William Alexander Rochdale 8e 57 Scan available - click to view Clarkson William Gibbon Alderbury 5a 180 Scan available - click to view Clarkson William Littlefair Teesdale 10a 258 Scan available - click to view.
These are all the birth registrations showing forall of 1875...
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ErikaH
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5 Dec 2023 18:26 |
Why do you say the birth was in JFM if you haven’t found the registration? His DoB is not recorded on the baptism on LanOPC.
His birth year is recorded as 1876 on 1881 census, so his birth would have been after the end of the first qtr
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ErikaH
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5 Dec 2023 18:32 |
In 1891, William born 1876 is GRANDSON of Maria.
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ErikaH
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5 Dec 2023 18:41 |
There is a birth in Preston in 1875 on LancsBMD with MMN Clarkson
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5 Dec 2023 18:43 |
and all those showing for 1876,
Births Mar 1876 (>99%) CLARKSON William Burnley 8e 285 Scan available - click to view CLARKSON William Henry Lincoln 7a 581 Scan available - click to view
Births Jun 1876 (>99%) CLARKSON William Nantwich 8a 356 Scan available - click to view CLARKSON William Oldham 8d 761 Scan available - click to view CLARKSON William Oldham 8d 791 Scan available - click to view CLARKSON William Firth Sheffield 9c 564 Scan available - click to view CLARKSON William Henry Liverpool 8b 171 Scan available - click to view
Births Sep 1876 (>99%) CLARKSON William Newcastle T. 10b 27 Scan available - click to view CLARKSON William Leeds 9b 598 Scan available - click to view CLARKSON William Salford 8d 154 Scan available - click to view CLARKSON William Edgar Bethnal Green 1c 242 Scan available - click to view CLARKSON William Jennings Leeds 9b 472 Scan available - click to view
Births Dec 1876 (>99%) CLARKSON William Teesdale 10a 264 Scan available - click to view CLARKSON William Gateshead 10a 904 Scan available - click to view CLARKSON William Preston 8e 566 Scan available - click to view CLARKSON William Fylde 8e 656 Scan available - click to view CLARKSON William Henry Wetherby 9a 119 Scan available - click to view
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ErikaH
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5 Dec 2023 18:44 |
Baptism 1875. On LanOPC - as per OP
Three earlier baptisms with same parents also on LanOPC
One, Maria, has her birth registration on LancsBMD with MMN Dyson
William Clarkson married Maria Dyson in 1852., when she was 26.
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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9 Dec 2023 03:05 |
He is son on the 1881 census However in view of Maria’s age doubt that !
Name William Clarkson Age 5 Estimated Birth Year abt 1876 Relationship to Head Son Father William Clarkson Mother Mariah Clarkson Gender Male Where born Preston, Lancashire, England Civil parish Preston County/Island Lancashire Country England Street Address 14 Corry St Occupation Scholar Registration district Preston Sub registration district St Peter ED, institution, or vessel 18 Neighbors View others on page Piece 4236 Folio 36 Page number 22 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship William Clarkson 68 Head Mariah Clarkson 59 Wife Henry Clarkson 16 Son Maria Clarkson 10 Daughter William Clarkson 5 Son Thomas Evans 50 Lodger (Boarder) (Lodger) Thomas Sharples 52 Lodger
Maria birth reg CLARKSON, MARIA DYSON GRO Reference: 1871 D Quarter in PRESTON Volume 08E Page 327
No william birth reg mmn Dyson !
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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9 Dec 2023 03:25 |
He is Ellen’s son
Born 12th Oct 1875 at 9 Corry street mother Ellen Clarkson occ cotton Rover
Mother Maria Clarkson of 9 Corry street was the informant on 25th oct signed with an X
So this gro birth reg
CLARKSON, WILLIAM - GRO Reference: 1875 D Quarter in PRESTON Volume 08E Page 537
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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9 Dec 2023 03:33 |
Ellen married in 1877
Marriages Mar 1877 CLARKSON Ellen Preston 8e 739 PIMLEY Henry Preston 8e 739
So she left William with her parents
Name Ellen Pimley Age 24 Estimated Birth Year abt 1857 Relationship to Head Wife Spouse Harry Pimley Gender Female Where born Preston, Lancashire, England Civil parish Clayton le Moors County/Island Lancashire Country England Street Address 5 Back Napoleon St Marital Status Married Occupation Cotton Rover Registration district Blackburn ED, institution, or vessel 1 Neighbors View others on page Piece 4176 Folio 8 Page number 9 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship Harry Pimley 24 Head Ellen Pimley 24 Wife Rachel Pimley 3 Daughter Richard Pimley 1 Son James Clarkson 20 Lodger (Head) (Lodger) Agnes Clarkson 21 Wife William Hy. Lamon 20 Lodger (Head) (Lodger) Catherine Lamon 20 Wife
So she was still the same occupation as on William’s birth cert
Birth reg PIMLEY, RACHEL CLARKSON GRO Reference: 1877 S Quarter in PRESTON Volume 08E Page 602
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Terence
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15 Dec 2023 16:05 |
thankyou everybody. i wanted to check who was william clarksons mother because i thought Maria was too old to be his mother.Now i know who he belongs to.I am trying to link william to my great grandmother Jane ellen Howarth both born in preston and got married in Lancaster parish church in 1900.his father is also named william clarkson on his weddding cert occupation weaver.So thankyou everybody again for your help.regards terry :-) :-)
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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15 Dec 2023 16:47 |
But surely a Willian clarkson born 1875 can’t be the father of someone married in 1900
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ErikaH
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15 Dec 2023 16:53 |
Marriage: 4 Aug 1900 St Mary, Lancaster, Lancashire William Clarkson - 23, Labourer, Bachelor, 43, Green St. Jane Ellen Howarth - 20, Spinster, 43, Green St. Groom's Father: William Clarkson, Weaver Bride's Father: John Howarth, Labourer Witnesses: William Howarth; Ellen Harrison Married by Banns by John W. Locker, Assistant Curate Register: Marriages 1899 - 1900, Page 27, Entry 53 Source: LDS Film 1526202
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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15 Dec 2023 17:20 |
Name William Clarkson Gender Male Marital Status Married Birth Date 22 Apr 1877 Residence Date 1939 Address 18. Residence Place Lancaster, L Occupation Painter - Paint Mills Line Number 40 Schedule Number 202 Sub Schedule Number 1 Enumeration District Nvmr Borough Lancaster Registration district 479-1 Inferred Spouse Jenny Clarkson Household Members (Name) Gender William Clarkson Male Jenny Clarkson Female
So two births that could cover
CLARKSON, WILLIAM HAYES GRO Reference: 1877 J Quarter in BURY LANCASHIRE Volume 08C Page 603 CLARKSON, WILLIAM KAY GRO Reference: 1877 J Quarter in LANCASTER Volume 08E Page 764
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ErikaH
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15 Dec 2023 17:40 |
That doesn’t appear to be the couple who married in Lancaster, as the wife was born in Wolverhampton (1921 census)
The man in 1939 above married Jenny Foster in 1900
Two daughters on 1921 census have second forename Foster
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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15 Dec 2023 17:52 |
Name William Clarkson Age in 1911 35 Estimated Birth Year abt 1876 Relation to Head Head Gender Male Birth Place Preston, Lancashire, England Civil parish Chorley County/Island Lancashire Country England Street Address 30 Eldon St Chorley Marital Status Married Occupation Boiler Fireman (wagon Works) Registration District Number 475 Sub-registration district Chorley ED, institution, or vessel 05 Piece 25204 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship William Clarkson 35 Head Jane Ellen Clarkson 29 Wife Albert Clarkson 1 Son Albert Clarkson 0 Son Ann Ellen Clarkson 6 Daughter William Clarkson 4 Son Clare Clarkson 9/12 Daughter Elizabeth Clarkson 10/12 Daughter James Thos Morris 19 Lodger Clara Morris 20 Lodger Clara Morris 6/12
CLARKSON, WILLIAM HOWARTH GRO Reference: 1906 D Quarter in LANCASTER Volume 08E Page 671
CLARKSON, ANN ELLEN HOWARTH GRO Reference: 1905 M Quarter in LANCASTER Volume 08E Page 711
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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15 Dec 2023 17:57 |
1921 census
Census Of England & Wales 7, Townley Street, Chorley, Lancashire, England 1921 census badge View original record Add to tree Print More actions Household members (8 people) Copy to clipboard First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer William Clarkson Head Male 1874 46 Preston, Lancashire, England Steam Boile Fireman Mr T Jenkins Co Ltd Cotton Manftrs Chorley Jane E Clarkson Wife Female 1882 39 Preston, Lancashire, England Home Duties - Ann E Clarkson Daughter Female 1905 16 Lancaster, Lancashire, England Card Room Creeler Operative W C Widdows Cotton Manftes Chorley William Clarkson Son Male 1906 14 Lancaster, Lancashire, England Spinning Room Operative (Creeler) W C Widdows Cotton Manftes Chorley Elizabeth Clarkson Daughter Female 1910 11 Chorley, Lancashire, England - - Edith Clarkson Daughter Female 1912 8 Chorley, Lancashire, England - - Robert Clarkson Son Male 1920 1 Chorley, Lancashire, England - - Ann Howarth Mother-in-law Female 1857 63 Preston, Lancashire, England Home Duties -
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Terence
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15 Dec 2023 18:12 |
thankyou so much everyone.Its the Chorley william clarkson who is my great grandfather.My grandmother was ann ellen clarkson.I am just lost as to how to connect him to the family in preston living at corry st in 1881.
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ArgyllGran
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16 Dec 2023 01:23 |
To recap:
Your grandmother was Ann Ellen Clarkson, born 1906.
Her mother (your Great grandmother) was Jane Ellen Howarth, who was married in 1900 to a William Clarkson.
So you want to know if that William Clarkson is the same one who was Ellen Clarkson's illegitimate son, born 12 Oct 1875.
According to records, William (Jane's husband) was 46 in June1921, 35 in April 1911, and 23 in August 1900. He was also 23 in 1901 census.
Unfortunately, as there's no consistent year of birth for him, it's probably impossible to prove whether or not he's the man born in 1875.
William Clarkson in the 1901 England Census Name William Clarkson Age 23 Estimated Birth Year abt 1878 Relation to Head Son-in-law Gender Male Birth Place Preston, Lancashire, England Civil parish Lancaster Search Photos View blank form Ecclesiastical parish St Mary County/Island Lancashire Country England Registration district Lancaster Sub-registration district Lancaster ED, institution, or vessel 03 Neighbors Piece 3988 Folio 53 Page number 21 Household schedule number 93 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship John Howarth 43 Head Ann Howarth 43 Wife Jane E Clarkson 19 Daughter William Howorth 17 Son Clara Howorth 10 Daughter Robert Howorth 8 Son Elizabeth Howorth 2 Daughter William Clarkson 23 Son-in-law - labourer at floor linoleum works
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