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There is NO second forename on Edna’s marriage record which is shown on familysearch………………

You refer to a brother - where did you learn about him?

Have you actually found a birth registration with MMN to match that for a birth registration for Edna?

You haven’t said where you have got all the snippets of info you’ve added at intervals………please give some verification for your statements

How is an American certificate relevant to the UK/ South Africa?

By googling it seems that a SA death certificate is similar to an English one

It seems as though we're fighting a losing battle the last thing I can try is for some one to get a 1921 census with Edna and her brother who was born 1911?


Thank you for looking and getting the above info

The 1930 travel record you found is NOT for the right person.
That one was born 1910, and her name was Elsie, not Edna:

Miss E Wood
in the UK and Ireland, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name Miss E Wood
Gender Female
Departure Age 20
Birth Date abt 1910
Departure Date 11 Dec 1930
Departure Port England
Ship Name Garth Castle
Shipping Line Union Castle Line
Destination Port Cape Town, South Africa
Master H L Scholefield

Address: 32 Hamilton Place, Aberdeen.

Travelling with Mrs E Wood, 60.


The mother:

Mrs Elsie Wood
in the Aberdeen City and Former Counties of Aberdeenshire, Scotland, Electoral Registers, 1832-1976
Name Mrs Elsie Wood
Record Type Residence
Residence Date 1921
Street Address 32 Hamilton Place.
Residence Place Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Parliamentary Division Aberdeen

Also at that address: James M A Wood


but still listed in 1932-33, now living with Douglas M Wood, and Elsie Wood:

Mrs Elsie Wood
in the Aberdeen City and Former Counties of Aberdeenshire, Scotland, Electoral Registers, 1832-1976
Name Mrs Elsie Wood
Record Type Residence
Residence Date 1932-1933
Street Address 32 Hamilton Place.
Residence Place Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Parliamentary Division Aberdeen


Birth:
WOOD
ELSIE ETHEL AND. . . . . .
mmn MOIR
F
1910
168 / 2 / 1440
St Machar


Parents' marriage:

WOOD JAMES MACKENZIE
MOIR ELSIE
1901
168 / 2 / 255
St Machar


The brother Douglas's birth:

WOOD
DOUGLAS MOIR
mmn MOIR
M
1907
168 / 2 / 128
St Machar

Re Edna May Woods -

Why do you think she might be the right person? There's no middle name on her marriage cert.

"I've got Death Certificates/Records ?? from America and it has the parents names on ?"
WHOSE death certificates??

You say that Edna was born 17/04/1908 in Manchester.

There are two possible births:

WOOD, EDNA mmn BONE
GRO Reference: 1908 J Quarter in BURY Volume 08C Page 581

WOOD, EDNA mmn JACKSON
GRO Reference: 1908 J Quarter in BARTON UPON IRWELL Volume 08C Page 640


The one registered in Bury is NOT your Edna.

Marriage of the Wood/Bone couple:

Marriages Dec 1900 (>99%)
Bone Ada Frances Bury 8c 821
Wood Albert Bury 8c 821



Edna Wood
in the 1911 England Census
Name Edna Wood
Age in 1911 3
Estimated Birth Year abt 1908
Relation to Head Daughter
Gender Female
Birth Place Heywood, Lancashire, England
Civil parish Heywood
County/Island Lancashire
Country England
Street Address 35 William Henry Street Heywood
Registration District Number 462
Sub-registration district Heywood
ED, institution, or vessel 02
Piece 23492
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Ada Francis Wood 35 Head
Frank Wood 5 Son
Edna Wood 3 Daughter
Emma Bone 68 Mother


That's not your Edna, as she is still in Heywood in 1939, and has a different DOB, and later married a Doherty:

Edna Wood
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name Edna Wood [Edna Doherty]
Gender Female
Marital Status Single
Birth Date 19 Mar 1908
Residence Date 1939
Address 1 Wham St
Residence Place Heywood, Lancashire, England
Occupation Towel Weaver
Line Number 24
Schedule Number 287
Sub Schedule Number 2
Enumeration District Nvab
Borough Heywood
Registration district 462 A/2
Household Members (Name) Gender
Mary Waring
This record is officially closed.
Edna Wood Female

I've got Death Certificates/Records ?? from America and it has the parents names on ?

ErikaH can you do a 1921 census look up for me got a 1911 census

James Woods <<<<< 29 Carter Ashton in Makerfield
Laura "" 28 Heaton Moor
James 5 Manchester West Gorton
Edna May 3
Address 21 Ford Lane Blackfriers Rd Salford

I know I've been looking at Wood ?? ""

Is there some confusion over the term 'death certificate'.?
As far as I am aware you always have to pay for the legal bmd's. It is birth, marriage & death parish registers that are often available for free on some sites. A parish register is unlikely to give any information on grandparents

I have my DNA on my Heritage and two links to came up 2nd cousin to 2 brothers As I've got a bit of my tree missing I thought I'd give it a go but one brother has quite a few people on his tree but not on Edna Wood, I've checked what they have the death that have been put up on hear I found that Passage you have I wondered about that one as Edna married Thomas Abbott from Scotland but they married in South Africa, Edna was born in Manchester as her brother Albert was

I've had a quick look at the site but I'll check it again later
As I said before I think I'll have to leave it as it would seem as the family don't know much about their ancestors I've sent a message to the 2nd brother he has only 3 people on his tree but he lives in South Africa so I'll wait and see if he can give me any more

Thank you for your help

Look at the SA site to which I gave you the link........

Who are 'they'?

I thought you'd found records yourself.................seems I was mistaken.

Where does this come from?

I think Edna travelled to South Africa 1930c I found one aged 23 travelling with possibly her mother ? age looked about 60 They lived in Aberdeen ?

No idea all they had was Edna was born 17/4/1908 she had a brother Albert who was born about 1911, she went to South Africa about 1930 Married and died there so as you can see it's hopeless Thats why I was hoping the death certificates had more on them

Any idea of the mother's name? Where did you find the record?

Thank you That is the couple I'm trying to sort out
I think Edna travelled to South Africa 1930c I found one aged 23 travelling with possibly her mother ? age looked about 60 They lived in Aberdeen ?

I think I'll have to give this one up getting nowhere fast

Name Thomas Brown Abbot
Sex Male
Age 26
Birth Year (Estimated) 1906
Spouse's Name Edna Wood
Spouse's Sex Female
Spouse's Age 24
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated) 1908
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 19 Nov 1932
Event Place Johannesburg, Bochum, Transvaal, Suid-Afrika
Event Place (Original) St John's Presbyterian Church, Johannesburg, Transvaal, South Africa
Certificate Number 16

Thank you for your help The death of Edna and Thomas seem to be the right ones I was hoping it had parents!!
As I'm going off another tree who is a DNA match but doesn't have much it's not worth buying a certificate

A tree on Ancestry by the grandaughter of Abbott/Wood has the husband of Edna Wood as Hailey Abbott.

Also on Ancestry a Perth Newspaper Index card , giving an address of 59 Scott Street. Obit 9.3.1972

Anthony Halley Abbot - note different spelling:


https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/12115238/officers

Presumably he's still living.

Click on his name on that page, and it will give you an office address .

Why not just ask him about his family? <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

From familysearch........FREE

Name Edna Abbot
Sex Female
Age 75
Death Date 27 Sep 1983
Birth Year (Estimated) 1908
Event Type Burial
Event Date 29 Sep 1983
Event Place Johannesburg, Gauteng, South Africa
Event Place (Original) Johannesburg Crematorium, Johannesburg, Gauteng, South Africa
Cemetery Johannesburg Crematorium

Worldwide on which website????????????

If you wish to obtain a death cert, you will have to apply for it yourself and pay for it. No-one else would be able get one for you


How much does a death certificate cost in South Africa?
Obtaining a Death Certificate | Western Cape Government
An abridged death certificate will be issued free of charge the death is registered. Apply for an unabridged death certificate by completing Form BI-132 and paying the required fee, which is R75. 00.20 Jul 2022

At today's rate £1 =R23.69


https://www.gov.za/faq/government-services/how-do-i-obtain-death-certificate

https://www.ancestors.co.za/birth-marriage-death-records/

There are a few south Africa records on Ancestry - but not many.

Lots of girls named Edna Wood were born 1907-9. Impossible to pick out the right one without more info.


??
Thomas Brown Abbot
in the Transvaal Province, South Africa, Estates Death Notice Index, 1855-1976
Name Thomas Brown Abbot
Death Year 1972
Death Country South Africa
Title Transvaal Estates Death Index (Master of the Supreme Court, Pretoria)
Source National Archives, Pretoria
Reference Number 3466/72