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1 Dec 2023 19:46 |
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census 39, Red Post Hill, Dulwich, Camberwell, London & Surrey, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Tom Tijou Head Married Male 53 1848 Chemist Matlock, Derbyshire, England Kate E Tijou Wife Married Female 38 1863 Spain (British Subject) - Helen W Tijou Daughter Single Female 5 1896 - London, Middlesex, England Edith Paige Sister-in-law Single Female 23 1878 Blouse maker Rickmansworth, Hertfordshire, England Hugh Leir Boarder Single Male 20 1881 Bank clerk Charlton, Somerset, England Elenor Leir Boarder Single Female 22 1879 School teacher Charlton, Somerset, England Svene Otterbeck Boarder Single Male 22 1879 Ship broker Norway Trygve Somershield Boarder Single Male 22 1879 Wood pulp agent Norway Martha E Hackett Servant Single Female 18 1883 General servant domestic Plaistow, Essex, England
could this be Tom Tijou's death, leaving the widow free to marry
Deaths Mar 1904 (>99%) TIJOU Tom 55 Coventry 6d 397
NOT unless the marriage was bigamous or the death late being registered
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1 Dec 2023 19:47 |
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: TIJOU, HELEN WINIFRED KATHLEEN ALTON GRO Reference: 1896 M Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 01D Page 397
Q1 registration would fit a February birth - out by a year from 1939 reg. but that's not unusual
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Dec 1888 (>99%) Alton Kate Elizabeth H Carlisle 10b 701 TIJOU Tom Carlisle 10b 701
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1 Dec 2023 19:50 |
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census 205, Rotherhithe New Road, Rotherhithe, St Olave Southwark, London & Surrey, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Tom Tijou Head Married Male 35 1846 Chemist Matlock Bath, Derbyshire, England Emma Maria Tijou Wife Married Female 35 1846 - Derbyshire, England Reginald Alton Tijou Son Single Male 4 1877 Scholar Rotherhithe, Surrey, England Charles Kiddy Tijou Son Single Male 3 1878 Scholar Rotherhithe, Surrey, England Charlotte Pumfrey Servant Single Female 19 1862 General servant domestic New Cross, Surrey, England
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1 Dec 2023 19:51 |
Tom's first marriage
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Dec 1875 (>99%)
HOPKINSON Emma Maria Lambeth 1d 565 Scan available - click to view TIJOU Tom Lambeth 1d 565 Scan available - click to view
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1 Dec 2023 19:52 |
After his marriage to Kate
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census 205, Rotherhithe New Road, Rotherhithe, St Olave Southwark, London & Surrey, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Thomas Tijou Head Married Male 44 1847 Chemist Matlock, Derbyshire, England Kate Tijou Wife Married Female 29 1862 - Spain Reginald Tijou Son - Male 14 1877 Scholar Rotherhithe, Surrey, England Charles K Tijou Son - Male 13 1878 Scholar Rotherhithe, Surrey, England Mary Pilon Mother Widow Female 81 1810 Living on own means Belper, Derbyshire, England Ellen Clarke Servant Single Female 16 1875 General servant Bermondsey, Surrey, England
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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1 Dec 2023 19:57 |
According to a tree on ancestry kate died in South Africa in 1947
They don’t have any record of any marriage to William wynn
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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1 Dec 2023 20:03 |
If this is William they are pensioners !
Name William Wynn Age in 1911 80 Estimated Birth Year abt 1831 Relation to Head Head Gender Male Birth Place St George Civil parish St George Hanover Square County/Island London Country England Street Address 151 Lupus Street, Pimlico SW Marital Status Married Occupation Retired Coachman Registration District Number 5 Sub-registration district Belgrave ED, institution, or vessel 19 Piece 451 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship William Wynn 80 Head Ellen Wynn 62 Wife
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1 Dec 2023 20:08 |
Shirley's William and Ellen had been married 3 years - so this one ? Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Dec 1908 (>99%)
MATTHEWS Ellen St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 1063 WYNN William St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 1063
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Emma
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1 Dec 2023 20:16 |
Alviegal.... thankyou...yes Colin Charman was in touch with me years ago when I started researching and I gave him the little info I have
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Emma
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1 Dec 2023 20:36 |
Wow you guys are so good at this ...I need more practice. My mum says all she wants for Xmas is to find out who winifred was so I'm really pushing it . So many rabbit holes it's hurting my brain. I really appreciate you all helping me
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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2 Dec 2023 08:00 |
If Helen was a daughter of Tom and Kate why would she become a wynn if an Ellen married a William wynn ?
First name(s) Ellen Country England Last name Tijou Volume 1D Marriage quarter 3 Volume as transcribed 1D Marriage year 1903 Page number 220 Registration month - Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005 MarriageFinder™ Ellen Tijou married one of these people William Wynn, George Thomas Middlemass Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records District Southwark Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce District number - Collections from Great Britain, England County London This seems to be her
Ellen Mother's first name(s) Louisa Last name Tijou Parent's occupation Tanner Birth year 1866 Residence 2 Caroline Place, Mina Road Birth date 05 Jul 1866 County Surrey Baptism year 1872 Country England Baptism date 02 Oct 1872 Record set Surrey Baptisms Baptism place Southwark St Mary Magdalen Massinger Road Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Relationship Dau Subcategory Parish Baptisms Father's first name(s) William Collections from England, Great Britain © West Surrey Family History Society
Mother Louisa
This looks like her birth
TIJOU, ELLEN NEWMAN GRO Reference: 1866 S Quarter in SAINT MARY MAGDALEN BERMONDSEY SURREY Volume 01D Page 59
So seems to be a totally different family
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2 Dec 2023 09:00 |
No birth in Scotland under that name either ,cant see anything on Incomming Passenger lists.........Wynn is a much used Welsh surname.
she possibly took a stepfathers surname at a young age.?
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ErikaH
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2 Dec 2023 09:22 |
What was Winifred’s address when she married? Did she declare an occupation?
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Emma
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2 Dec 2023 10:39 |
I think I've gone down the wrong rabbit hole with the tijou family ... really thought I'd found a clue aswell...
At the time of marriage the address was 52 Jeffreys road Clapham road London, it sates Winifred as a spinster
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Emma
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2 Dec 2023 10:43 |
I believe 52 Jeffreys road is Stockwell lambeth
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ArgyllGran
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2 Dec 2023 11:42 |
On the 1925, 1926 and 1927 ERs, these people are at 52 Jeffreys Road, Lambeth:
George & Louisa Cooke; Robert Maxwell Dalrymple; the Ellis family (Douglas, Edwin James, and Louisa Amelia); and Julia & Stephen Wilfred Sullivan.
Winifred must just have been a boarder/lodger.
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Emma
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2 Dec 2023 12:04 |
Argyllgran ah thanks so much for looking for me that's fab
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Gwyn in Kent
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2 Dec 2023 12:42 |
These are the Winifred Kathleen registrations on freebmd, who were born in 1894 or 1895 (for a February birth and allowing for a year out from declared 1939 date of birth)
Births Mar 1894 Darby Winifred Kathleen Hackney 1b 552 Nicholes Winifred Kathleen Kingston 2a 389 Thomas Winifred Kathleen Cardiff 11a 390 Toplis Winifred Kathleen Pancras 1b 178
Births Jun 1894 Guise Winifred Kathleen Bromsgrove 6c 382 Kirton Winifred Kathleen Rochford 4a 498 Powley Winifred Kathleen M St. Faith's 4b 97 Wootton Winifred Kathleen Cannock 6b 518
Births Mar 1895 Hewett Winifred Kathleen Barton R. 6a 67 Hooper Winifred Kathleen H Barton R. 6a 161
Births Jun 1895 Barrett Winifred Kathleen N. Witchford 3b 565 Bridgland Winifred Kathleen J Edmonton 3a 484 Hanley Winifred Kathleen Burton 6b 427 Hill Winifred Kathleen Thingoe 4a 784 Taylor Winifred Kathleen Stoke D. 5b 330
May be your Winifred was registered with one of these surnames, but later took a stepfather's name of Wynn..?
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ErikaH
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2 Dec 2023 13:53 |
The Hewett one died in infancy
I looked only for births relating to the DOB as per1939, so my info is limited
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2 Dec 2023 14:05 |
You can forget all those born in 1894.
Darby: parents Thomas and Kathleen; married Frederick Thompson in 1918.
Nicholes: born 25 Feb 1894; parents William (labourer) and Kathleen.
Thomas: parents Annie & John; married Trevor Edwards in 1918.
Toplis: born 8 Feb 1894; married Horace Read in 1920; is on 1939 Register.
Guise: parents Harry & Nellie; married Joseph Owen in 1939.
Kirton: parents Juliana & Charles; died unmarried in 1936.
Powley: born 4 March 1894; parents Charles & Amelia; still unmarried in 1939.
Wootton: parents Kate & George; married Stokes in 1918, died 1980.
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