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John

John Report 31 Aug 2023 12:46

I am trying to find a Frances or Fanny Whitbey who stated in 1851 born in Eastchurch Kent in 1823. Found no birth for her in Kent. Wondering if she could possibly have got married and Whitbey was her married name Would appreciate any help please

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Aug 2023 12:54

Born 1823, there would be ONLY a baptism record - not a birth.

Where was the woman living in 1851?

Doesn't the census record her marital status?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 Aug 2023 12:58

Posting 1851 for our reference - name spelled differently:

Fanny Whitby
in the 1851 England Census
Name Fanny Whitby
Age 28
Estimated Birth Year abt 1823
Relation Servant
Gender Female
Where born Eastchurch, Kent, England
Civil parish Milton next Gravesend
Ecclesiastical parish Holy Trinity
Town Gravesend
County/Island Kent
Country England
Registration district Gravesend
Sub-registration district Gravesend
ED, institution, or vessel 2d
Neighbors
Household schedule number 18
Piece 1608
Folio 283
Page number 7
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Dorthea Wells 50 Widow
T S Wells 25 Son
James G Pollard 24 Visitor
Fanny Whitby 28 Servant - unmarried

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Aug 2023 13:00

It does help to see the full info....................... : ;-) ;-)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Aug 2023 13:04

How did you come to pick on this record?

Have you any connection?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 Aug 2023 13:05

Possibly her marriage - though her YOB stated in 1861 is different:

Marriages Mar 1853 (>99%)
BRIGHT Robert N Aylesford 2a 361
WHITBY Fanny N Aylesford 2a 361


The marriage cert should name her father, which will help with tracing her before 1851.


Fanny Bright
in the 1861 England Census
Name Fanny Bright
Gender Female
Age 31
Relation Wife
Estimated Birth Year 1830
Spouse's Name Robert Bright
Where born Eastchurch, Kent, England <<<<<<<<<<<
Civil parish Northfleet
County/Island Kent
Country England
Registration district North Aylesford
Sub-registration district Northfleet
ED, institution, or vessel 2
Neighbors
Household schedule number 105
Piece 472
Folio 39
Page number 20
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Robert Bright 31 Head
Fanny Bright 31 Wife
Sarah Bright 1 Daughter
Charles Bright 3 Son
Fanny Bright 6 Daughter
Michael Leigh 24 Lodger

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Aug 2023 13:06

Looking at the 1851 IMAGE, I rather think she is 18 years old..................

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 Aug 2023 13:08

Robert's a widower by 1871:

Robert Bright
in the 1871 England Census
Name Robert Bright
Age 42
Estimated Birth Year 1829
Relation Head
Gender Male
Where born Northfleet Kent England
Civil parish Northfleet
County/Island Kent
Country England
Registration district North Aylesford
Sub-registration district Northfleet
ED, institution, or vessel 2
Household schedule number 141
Piece 895
Folio 45
Page number 27
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Robert Bright 42 Head
Fanny Bright 16 Daughter
Char Bright 14 Son
Sarah Bright 11 Daughter
Charlotte Bright 8 Daughter
Robert Bright 6 Son
Alice Bright 3 Daughter

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 Aug 2023 13:09

Her death:

Deaths Mar 1870 (>99%)
Bright Frances 41 N. Aylesford 2a 276

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 Aug 2023 13:18

Maybe a possibility, if name spelled differently , or maybe mistranscribed ???

Frances Elizabeth Whitley
in the Kent, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1538-1914
Name Frances Elizabeth Whitley
Gender Female
Record Type Christening (Baptism)
Baptism Date 16 Oct 1831
Baptism Place Eastchurch, Kent, England
Father George Whitley
Mother Mary Whitley

You need the 1853 marriage cert, to check father's name.

alviegal

alviegal Report 31 Aug 2023 13:34

Kent Marriages And Banns
Northfleet, St Botolph, Kent, England
Transcript of Fanny's record
First name(s) Fanny
Spouse's father's occupation Labourer
Last name Whitby
First witness Sarah Hope
Age Full
Second witness Charles Hope
Marital status Spinster
County Kent
Occupation Servant
Country England
Marriage year 1853
Archive Medway Archives
Marriage date 17 Jan 1853
Archive reference P270/1/21
Marriage place Northfleet, St Botolph
Register type Marriages
Spouse's first name(s) Robert
Year range 1852-1856
Spouse's last name Bright
Original record link https://cityark.medway.gov.uk/wwwopacx/wwwopac.ashx?command=getcontent&server=files&value=P270-01-21(2).pdf
Spouse's age Full
Go to page 158
Spouse's condition Bachelor
Record set Kent Marriages And Banns
Spouse's occupation Labourer
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
>>Father's first name(s) William
Father's last name Whitby
Collections from England, Great Britain
Father's occupation Farmer

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 Aug 2023 13:36

Good find, Alviegal.

OK, the Whitley baptism with father George isn't the right one.
And in that case, there's no record of Fanny's baptism, as far as I can see.

Nor any sign of a William Whitby in Eastchurch.

alviegal

alviegal Report 31 Aug 2023 13:41

The 1851 on fmp,

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
36, Harmer Street, Milton Next Gravesend, Gravesend, Kent, England
View original record
Household members (4 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Dorothea Wells Widow
Unmarried Female 50 1801 - Middlesex, England
T S Wells Son
Unmarried Male 25 1826 - Islington, Middlesex, England
James G Pollard Visitor
Unmarried Male 24 1827 Lawyer City of London, Middlesex, England
Fanny Whitby Servant
Unmarried Female >>18 <<1833 House servant Kent, England

John

John Report 31 Aug 2023 15:48

Thankyou so much for the findings, obviously it’s better to get a marriage cert,to get her father, I know the father of Robert Bright is also a Robert Bright. Possibly a William Whitbey could be on the Isle of Sheppey on the 1841 and 1851 census. Eastchurch is over the water from it.

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 31 Aug 2023 16:42

:-S Eastchurch is on the Isle of Sheppey.