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Janet's marriage:
SKED JANET
JOHNSTON ROBERT
1869
713 / 12
North Berwick
They're in later censuses, although Janet's wrongly said to be the daughter of James Hepbon/Hepburn and Elizabeth his wife.
Elizabeth Kelly married James Hepburn in 1855 - so she must have had a previous partner named Sked, who was Janet's father.
Elizabeth Kelly
in the Scotland, Select Marriages, 1561-1910
Name Elizabeth Kelly
Gender Female
Marriage Date 15 Jan 1855
Marriage Place North Berwick, East Lothian, Scotland
Spouse James Hepburn
There's no sign of Janet's baptism, either as Kelly or as Sked.
Janet Johnston
in the 1871 Scotland Census
Name Janet Johnston [Janet Hepbon]
Age 24
Estimated Birth Year abt 1847
Relationship Wife
Spouse's Name Robert Johnston
Father's Name James Hepbon
Mother's Name Elizabeth Hepbon
Gender Female
Where born N Berwick, hadds
Registration Number 713/1
Registration district North Berwick Burgh
Civil parish North Berwick
Town No Berwick
County East Lothian
Address 14 Harbour Te
ED 2
Household schedule number 180
Line 11
Roll CSSCT1871_173
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Robert Johnston 22 Head
Janet Johnston 24 Wife
Elizabeth Johnston 1 Mo Daughter
James Hepbon 41 Father-in-law
Elizabeth Hepbon 46 Mother-in-law
Martha Hepbon 17 Sister-in-law
Mary Hepbon 15 Sister-in-law
Williamina Hepbon 7 Sister-in-law
William Logar 20 Boarder
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Thank you Argyll Gran & Alviegal if you are out of pocket I would be very happy to compensate you :) Have a great day and Thanks again :)
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Possible banns for James and Janet
First name(s) James
County Haddingtonshire (East Lothian)
Last name Kelly
Country Scotland
Banns year 1822
Archive reference OPR 713/7
Banns date 07 Dec 1822
Item 3
Marriage year 1822
Residence North Berwick
Spouse's first name Janet
Record set Scotland, Parish Marriages & Banns 1561-1893
Spouse's last name Hogg
Spouse's residence North Berwick
Subcategory Parish Marriages
and James
North Berwick Burial & Mortcloth 1661-1854
North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
First name(s) James
Country Scotland
Last name Kelly
Notes Kelly, James. 49 yrs
Birth year -
Reference OPR5
Death year -
Record set Scotland, Parish Deaths & Burials 1564-2017
Burial year 1849
Dataset Title North Berwick Burial & Mortcloth 1661-1854
Burial date Feb 16th 1849
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Cemetery -
Subcategory Parish Burials
sorry have to go off to work. Good luck with searching.
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Janet Sked's death:
SKED (also listed as JOHNSTONE)
JANET
63
mmn KELLY
F
1910
713 / 28
North Berwick
But I don't see a Sked (or similar) / Kelly marriage in the parish records (which doesn't mean there wasn't one) , nor do I see Janet's baptism.
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Pointing you to the 1921 census wasn’t helpful?
I believe in helping people to find the right place to find their answers - not doing all the work for them, especially when there are extra costs involved for the individual researcher.
I thought you had left Alviegirl out of your thanks when she had done a tremendous amount of work on your behalf.
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Thank you Thank you Thank you
Janet Skead Grand daughter - who does she belong to ? I'm guessing she's illegitimate.
Its so confusing :) Kelly - Kellie Margaret or Rita
Mary Jane known as Jane arghhh!!!!
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nameslessone : I have looked and gathered my info from family bibles and some census. I joined this community to gain further info from family historians who have a lot more experience and no how than me. I have already been helped immensely by alviegal and argle gran for which I am truly grateful. Your comments are neither insightful or helpful!
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KELLY
CATHERINE
1921
F
39
713/ 2/ 15
North Berwick
East Lothian
is this Kate living on her own? If so it looks like she's Robert's daughter from above census.
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Alviegirl:-(
If Kate Kelly was still alive then she should be on the 1921 Scottish census - isn’t it available yet on Scotlands People? It would at least tell you where she was born.
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James Kelly 1874s family details.
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Cantybay, North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Household members (9 people)
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
James Kelly Male 40 1801 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Janet Kelly Female 30 1811 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Elizabeth Kelly Female 17 1824 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
John Kelly Male 15 1826 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Janet Kelly Female 13 1828 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Cathraine Kelly Female 10 1831 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Mary Kelly Female 8 1833 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Margaret Kelly Female 6 1835 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
George Kelly Male 4 1837 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
High Street, North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Household members (6 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Janet Kellie Head
Widow Female 48 1803 Fishermans widow Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Margaret Kellie Daughter
- Female 14 1837 Scholar Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
George Kellie Son
- Male 12 1839 Errand boy Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Robert Kellie Son
- Male 8 1843 Scholar Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Elisabeth Kellie Daughter
Unmarried Female 27 1824 Washerwoman Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Janet Skead Grand daughter
- Female 4 1847 Scholar Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Dicks Close, North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Household members (3 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Janet Kellie Head
Widow Female 58 1803 Pauper Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Robert Kellie Son
Unmarried Male 18 1843 Fisherman Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Janet Sked Grand daughter
- Female 14 1847 Scholar Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
West Gate, North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Household members (4 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Robert Kelly Head
Married Male 28 1843 Fisherman Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Mary Kelly Wife
Married Female 23 1848 - Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Mary Kelly Daughter
Unmarried Female 1 1870 - Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Mary Livingston Mother
Widow Female 56 1815 - Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Shore, 2, North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Household members (6 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Robert Kelly Head
Married Male 37 1844 Fisherman North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Margaret Kelly Wife
Married Female 32 1849 - North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Mary Kelly Daughter
- Female 11 1870 Scholar North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
>>James Kelly Son
- Male 6 1875 - North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Jennet Kelly Daughter
- Female 4 1877 - North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Catherine Kelly Daughter
- Female 0 1881 - North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Russell Square, North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Household members (5 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Robert Kelly Head
Married Male 49 1842 Fisherman Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Mary Kelly Daughter
Unmarried Female 21 1870 General servant Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
>>James Kelly Son
Unmarried Male 16 1875 Fisherman Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Janet Kelly Daughter
Unmarried Female 14 1877 Scholar Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Catharine Kelly Daughter
- Female 10 1881 Scholar Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Russell Square, 5, Forth Street, North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Household members (5 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Robert Kelly Head
Married Male 57 1844 Caddie (golf) Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Mary Kelly Wife
Married Female 51 1850 - Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Mary Kelly Daughter
Single Female 31 1870 General servt Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Catherine Kelly Daughter
Single Female 20 1881 General servt Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Janet Kelly Daughter
Single Female 24 1877 General servt Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
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Argyll Gran you have helped me before - Thank you so much .
I have registered with Scotland People : The error I keep getting is : The form has become outdated. Press the back button, copy any unsaved work in the form, and then reload the page. I will persevere.
Awww Margarita daughter died only 17 :(
William & Jessie did not seem to have children
I am trying to determine the relationship between Kate Kelly said to have lived at 6 Market Place North Berwick in 1915 with Jane Leitch nee Kelly and Mary Collie nee Kelly . All 3 Kelly women lived together for years
We know Mary Collie and Jane Leitch were Aunt and Niece
we don’t know where Kate Kelly fits in ?
The only other Kate I can find is born to a Robert Kelly Born 1844 Married to Mary Livingstone, Think their children were Mary, James, Janet & Catherine ( Maybe the Kate ) I'm trying to identify
Because I don't know where this Kate Kelly was born or died only where she lived, I'm not what what to look up?
:-(
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Jane in other records.
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Kercot Place, 9, North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Mary Kelly Head
Widow Female 52 1839 Fishermans wife Prestonpans, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
George Kelly Son
Unmarried Male 25 1866 Fisherman Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
John Kelly Son
Unmarried Male 23 1868 Fisherman Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Richard Kelly Son
Unmarried Male 20 1871 Golf caddy Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Mary Kelly Daughter
Unmarried Female 18 1873 Domestic servant Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Robert Kelly Son
Unmarried Male 15 1876 Golf caddy Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Elizabeth Kelly Daughter
- Female 13 1878 Scholar Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
>>Jane Kelly Daughter
- Female 10 1881 Scholar Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
William Thomson Boarder
Married Male 30 1861 Fisherman Prestonpans, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
40, Victoria Road, North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Household members (5 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Mary Kelly Head
Widow Female 65 1836 - Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
John Kelly Son
Single Male 31 1870 Fisherman North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Robert Kelly Son
Single Male 24 1877 Greenkeeper golf North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Lizzie Kelly Daughter
Single Female 22 1879 General servt Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
>>Jane Kelly Granddaughter
Single Female 19 1882 General servt Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
There is a Robert Kelly connected to golf mentioned.
EDIT I see he's the poor soul who died of shrapnel wounds.
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LEITCH
ALEX
1911
M
33
713/ 2/ 16
North Berwick
East Lothian
Jane 30, Alex 2 and Mary 2 at same address.
LEITCH
JANE
1921
F
40
713/ 2/ 5
North Berwick
East Lothian
with Alexander 11 and Mary Jane 13.
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Jane Kelly is on the 1881 census so has to be the 1880 birth. Mary was born and died 1882 and her mother, Joan died the same year.
Jane must be the daughter who survived.
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Thank you Erikah H your positive input has been nothing but helpful
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Here is the 1901 census record for the couple William and Jessie Kelly who are in the same household as James & Margaret in the 1911 census.
William is James's brother, although his age fluctuates a bit from one census to another.
William Kelly
in the 1901 Scotland Census
Name William Kelly
Age 39
Estimated Birth Year abt 1862
Relationship Head
Spouse's Name Jessie Kelly
Gender Male
Where born no berwick, Haddingtonshire
Registration Number 713
Registration district North Berwick
Civil parish North Berwick
Town North Berwick
County East Lothian
Address Forth St No 4 Russell Sq
Occupation Greenkeeper (golf)
ED 2A
Household schedule number 133
Line 11
Roll CSSCT1901_409
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
William Kelly 39 Head
Jessie Kelly 36 Wife
In 1891 they're living in Stirling - he's a baker.
In 1881 William's unmarried and living in Edinburgh - a baker.
In 1871 he's with his parents George and Mary, and his siblings, in North Berwick.
His baptism:
William Kelly
in the Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
Name William Kelly
Gender Male
Birth Date 1 Jul 1861
Birth Place North Berwick, East Lothian, Scotland
Father George Kelly
Mother Mary Thomson
His marriage:
KELLY WILLIAM
MILLAR JESSIE ANN
1888
713 / 13
North Berwick
His death:
KELLY WILLIAM
78
M
1939
713 / 31
North Berwick
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If you can get an ll that information without paying Scotlands People why hadn’t Kelly been using it. Where did she get her earlier info,?
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The family in 1911 - you can only see the full record (and/or view the image of the original document)
by buying credits on Scotlands People:
https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
KELLY
MARGARET
1911
F
49
713/ 5/ 12
North Berwick
East Lothian
In the same household are :
James Kelly 51,
Rita Kelly 11 (ie - Marguerita/Margaret),
Jessie Kelly 46
William Kelly 49
EDIT:
Oops! I see Alviegal has already posted that.
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The daughter Margaret's birth:
KELLY
MARGUERITA
mmn RUSSELL
F
1900
713 / 4
North Berwick
And her death:
KELLY
MARGUERITA
17
mmn RUSSELL
F
1917
713 / 42
North Berwick
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You are super helpful and I appreciate your help and support
I was told Mary Jane Kelly's Mum Joan Marr died in child birth 1882
when Mary Jane Kelly moved to her grandmother Mary Thomas, hey decided they could not have to Marys in 1 house so they called the child Jane
I had no idea there was another baby born 1880 Jane - what happened to this Baby?
I will get credits from scotland's people - Great advice - Thank you
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