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Mary Ann Maria Felmingham - Update

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Chrissie2394

Chrissie2394 Report 30 Jul 2023 11:20

ErikaH, wow you have been busy whilst I was typing my previous comment, thank you.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Jul 2023 16:11

I think the birth cert may prove enlightening.....hope so, anyway ;-) ;-)

Chrissie2394

Chrissie2394 Report 30 Jul 2023 18:59

ErikaH I think it will just say Elizabeth as mum the same as the baptism record and the address may just be the village. Even if it gave an actual address the name Elizabeth won't help unfortunately.

Chris

Chrissie2394

Chrissie2394 Report 30 Jul 2023 19:49

ErikaH, now that the GRO is back up and running I've just ordered the birth certificate.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Jul 2023 10:25

Let us know what it says...........................the baptism record could be wrong

Chrissie2394

Chrissie2394 Report 31 Jul 2023 16:02

ErkaH will do. I've received a refund for the poor digital copy this morning and should get the full details Thursday or Friday.

Chrissie2394

Chrissie2394 Report 2 Aug 2023 12:51

Just received the birth certificate, such a shame the digital copy was so poor and missing the important info.

Mum named as Sarah, not Elizabeth as is clearly written in the baptism register.

ErikaH, you were right in that the baptism record could be wrong.

Many thanks to you and ArgyllGran for your replies, it's much appreciated.

Chris

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 Aug 2023 14:27

Thanks for letting us know..............glad you got a result

Chrissie2394

Chrissie2394 Report 2 Aug 2023 14:46

ErikaH, thanks for your help. I'm a little confused tbough. I've come across two baptisms for Sarah with John Felmingham and Elizabeth Say, 1823 and in 1844 when thst Sarah was 10 years old.

In the 1861 Census when Sarah is with Mary, Harriet and Eliza in the workhouse, her age is right for the 1822 birth so not sure about the 10 year old Sarah who was baptised in 1844.

Chris

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 Aug 2023 15:04


1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
High Street, Wortwell, Depwade, Norfolk, England
John Felmingham Head Married Male 53 1798 Cordwainder master Denton, Suffolk, England
Elizabeth Felmingham Wife Married Female 56 1795 - Somerton, Cambridgeshire, England
Sarah Felmingham Daughter Unmarried Female 29 1822 Servant cent of place Wortwell, Norfolk, England
Theodosia Felmingham Daughter Unmarried Female 13 1838 Scholar Wortwell, Norfolk, England
Harriot Felmingham Daughter Unmarried Female 9 1842 Scholar Wortwell, Norfolk, England
Pamela Felmingham Daughter - Female 6 1845 Scholar Wortwell, Norfolk, England

FELMINGHAM, PAMELA SAY
GRO Reference: 1844 S Quarter in DEPWADE Volume 13 Page 42

FELMINGHAM, HARRIETT LAY
GRO Reference: 1842 M Quarter in DEPWADE UNION Volume 13 Page 47

Where have you 'come across' the baptisms to which you refer? Have you accessed the images?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 Aug 2023 15:13

Name John Calver
Age 77
Estimated Birth Year 1794
Relation Head
Gender Male
Where born Wortwell, Norfolk, England
Civil parish Wortwell
Town Wortwell
County/Island Norfolk
Country England
Registration district Depwade
Sub-registration district Harleston
ED, institution, or vessel 9
Household schedule number 52
Piece 1833
Folio 136
Page number 9
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
John Calver 77 Head
Sarah Calver
50 Wife
Elija Felingham
12 Daughter
Edward Calver
5 Son


Name Sarah Felmingham
Gender Female
Marriage Age 42
Birth Date abt 1821
Marriage Date 12 Jul 1863
Marriage Place Redenhall with Harleston and Wortwell, England
Father John Felmingham
Spouse John Carver

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 Aug 2023 15:15

First name(s) Pamela
County Norfolk
Last name Felmingham
Country England
Sex Female
Archive Norfolk Record Office
Birth year 1844
Archive reference PD 295/7
Birth date 04 Aug 1844
Register year range 1841-1863
Baptism year 1846
Page 29
Baptism date 26 Jul 1846
Document Type Parish registers
Father's first name(s) John
Record set Norfolk Baptisms
Father's occupation Shoe Maker
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Place Redenhall with Harleston & Wortwell
Collections from England, Great Britain
Diocese Norwich

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 Aug 2023 15:19



From FMP

Felmingham
Benjamin
1844
1844
Norfolk Baptisms
Redenhall with Harleston & Wortwell, Norfolk, England

Felmingham
Eliza
1833
1844
England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Redenhall with Harlestone & Wortwell, Norfolk, England

Felmingham
Eliza
1844
1844
Norfolk Baptisms
Redenhall with Harleston & Wortwell, Norfolk, England

Felmingham
Harriet
1842
1846
Norfolk Baptisms
Redenhall with Harleston & Wortwell, Norfolk, England

Felmingham
Pamela
1844
1846
Norfolk Baptisms
Redenhall with Harleston & Wortwell, Norfolk, England

Felmingham
Pamela
1846
1846
Norfolk Baptisms
Norwich, Norfolk, England

Felmingham
Theodoria
1837
1844
England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Redenhall with Harlestone & Wortwell, Norfolk, England

Felmingham
Theodoria
1844
1844
Norfolk Baptisms
Redenhall with Harleston & Wortwell, Norfolk, England

From familysearch

Eliza Felmingham
Principal
England, Norfolk Bishop's Transcripts, 1685-1941
Christening 8 April 1844
Wortwell, Norfolk, England, United Kingdom
ParentsJohn Felmingham, Elizabeth Say

Benjamin Felmingham
Principal
England, Norfolk Bishop's Transcripts, 1685-1941
Christening 8 April 1844
Wortwell, Norfolk, England, United Kingdom
ParentsJohn Felmingham, Elizabeth Say

Theodoria Felmingham
Principal
England, Norfolk Bishop's Transcripts, 1685-1941
Christening 8 April 1844
Wortwell, Norfolk, England, United Kingdom
ParentsJohn Felmingham, Elizabeth Say


First name(s) John
Spouse's last name Say
Last name Felmingham
Archive Norfolk Record Office
Sex Male
Archive reference PD 295/3
Year 1820
Document type Parish registers
Marriage date 25 Dec 1820
Event type Marriage
Residence Denton
Year range 1707-1831
Place Redenhall with Harleston & Wortwell
Record set Norfolk Banns And Marriages
Diocese Norwich
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
County Norfolk
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Country England
Collections from England, Great Britain
Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth

Name John Felmingham
Gender Male
Marriage Date 25 Nov 1820
Marriage Place Redenhall With Harleston and Wortwell, Norfolk, England
Spouse Elizabeth Lay
FHL Film Number 1471055

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 Aug 2023 15:24

Name Elizabeth Jane Calver
Gender Female
Baptism Date 8 Sep 1867
Baptism Place Redenhall, Norfolk, England
Father James Calver
Mother Theodosia Felmingham Calver
FHL Film Number 1526689

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 2 Aug 2023 16:10

One of the baptisms you mention:

Sarah Fellingham
in the England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1936
Name Sarah Fellingham
Gender Female
Event Type Baptism
Birth Date 27 Oct 1822
Baptism Date 30 Apr 1823
Baptism Place Denton, Norfolk, England
Denomination Independent
Father
John Fellingham
Mother
Elizabeth Say


Can't see any baptism in 1844.
Where did you see the "19 year old Sarah who was baptised in 1844" ?

Chrissie2394

Chrissie2394 Report 2 Aug 2023 18:43

ArgyllGran I'm struggling to find it now. I wish I hadn't deleted it from my tree but I realised there was no point in keeping it. I will keep looking.

Chris

Chrissie2394

Chrissie2394 Report 6 Aug 2023 15:50

ArgllGran, I've spent many hours looking for it but to no avail. Whatever I found and saved I wish I hadn't deleted it.

I have amended my earlier reply, I must have caught the 9 instead if 0, the age in the record was 10 not 19.

Well I've found where my two dna matches match each other, just not where they match me.

Chris