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nameslessone

nameslessone Report 24 Jun 2023 17:58

Is the heat getting to everyone?

It is Brian’s mother in law who doesn’t know or didn’t pass on the name of her father.

An illegitimate birth would not necessarily occur in the home area of the child’s errant father - so looking for births of unmarried mothers would probably be a futile exercise in the circumstances.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Jun 2023 17:54

For INFO

1921 Census Of England & Wales
Grange Road, Shanklin, Hampshire, England

Josephine Jenkins Head Male 1855 66 Isle of Wight, England Invalid -
Rhoda Jenkins Wife Female 1854 66 Isle of Wight, England Home Duties -
Harry Jenkins Son Male 1878 42 Isle of Wight, England General Carrier Shankin
Oliver Jenkins Son Male 1895 26 - Motor Carrier Shunter For And Forn, Newport Iof W
Doris Ewart Visitor Female 1900 20 Wood Green, London, England Newspaper & Book Keeper Ast Ar Enginneri Colly, Enginering Of Steel
Clara Ann Rowley Visitor Female 1861 60 Wood Green, London, England Home Duties -
Cyril Green Visitor Male 1857 63 London, England Shipping Clerk Doulton & Co Ltd Potters & C
Elizabeth Mary Green Visitor Female 1858 62 London, England Home Duties -
James Hutton Visitor Male 1870 51 Oxford, Oxfordshire, England Brough Libirian Portsmouth Corporation, Libary Deaprtment
Edith Gertrude Hutton Visitor Female 1872 49 Douglas, Isle of Man, Isle of Man Home Duties -

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Fawby Cottage, Clarendon Road, Shanklin, Isle of Wight, Isle of Wight & Hampshire, England
Josephus Jenkins Head Married Male 48 1853 Gardener (not domestic jobbing) Godshill, Isle of Wight, England
Rhoda Jenkins Wife Married Female 47 1854 - Shalfleet, Isle of Wight, England
Harry Jenkins Son Single Male 19 1882 General labourer Isle of Wight, England
George Jenkins Son Single Male 17 1884 Grocers porter Isle of Wight, England
Ambrose Jenkins Son Single Male 13 1888 - Newchurch, Isle of Wight, England
Monsell F Jenkins Son Single Male 11 1890 - Newchurch, Isle of Wight, England
Alice M Jenkins Daughter Single Female 8 1893 - Newchurch, Isle of Wight, England
Oliver C Jenkins Son Single Male 7 1894 - Brading, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England
Norah B Jenkins Daughter Single Female 6 1895 - Sandown, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England
Daisy V Jenkins Daughter Single Female 4 1897 - Brading, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 Jun 2023 17:53

Was OH's grandfather brought up by his mother - or did she give him up for adoption?


[EDIT: Sorry - I meant was OH's mother or father (the grandfather's child) brought up by his/her mother? }

If brought up by his/her mother, what was her name?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Jun 2023 17:47

Any illegitimate children would be registered in the mother's name, unless the father was present and consented to have his name added to the birth cert.

Look yourself for births with dual registrations.........................

Are we to assume that your OH does not know who her birth mother was? Apologies if this is an inaccurate conclusion - but it's based on the wording of your post........................

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 24 Jun 2023 17:33

No one is going to be able to fins out if there illegitimate children unless they are the children themselves and know their truth.

Make sure you you have uploaded to other sites just in case a family member has used them instead of the one you are on now.

This worked for us and we found OH’s grandfather so we didn’t need to put any ‘cats amongst the pigeons’.

BrianW

BrianW Report 24 Jun 2023 17:24

DNA testing has narrowed down OH grandfather to be one of four Jenkins brothers on the Isle of Wight in 1920.
Two, George and Ambrose, had children so we may be able to get tests on their descendants.
Harry (1878-1946) and Oliver (1893-1974) were officially childless but if they had illegitimate children who can be traced and tested then we can rule them in or out.

So if anyone can identify illegitimate children of Harry or Oliver I would be so grateful.