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SMITH
AGNES OWEN

F
1862
476 / 164
Denny


SMITH
ANDREW NELSON

M
1865
476 / 94
Denny

then after the marriage.

CARR
WILLIAM
SMITH
M
1868
476 / 168
Denny


KERR
RATCHELL
SMITH
F
1871
476 / 39
Denny

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Kirkslap, Falkirk Road, Denny, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Household members (9 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Kerr Head
Married Male 24 1847 Ironstone miner Dunipace, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Helen Kerr Wife
Married Female 27 1844 - Denny, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Agnes Kerr Daughter
- Female 9 1862 - Denny, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Andrew Kerr Son
- Male 7 1864 - Denny, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Rachel Kerr Daughter
- Female 0 1871 - Denny, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Jane Line Niece
- Female 10 1861 Scholar Denny, Stirlingshire, Scotland
George Smith Good broth (????)
Unmarried Male 20 1851 Ironstone miner Denny, Stirlingshire, Scotland
John O'Bran Boarder
Unmarried Male 16 1855 Ironstone miner Denny, Stirlingshire, Scotland
William Kerr Son
- Male 3 1868 - Denny, Stirlingshire, Scotland

To go further back -

If you look at his parents' marriage cert on SP (6 credits) it will tell you their parents' names:

CARR JAMES
SMITH HELEN
1868
476 / 18
Denny

Thank you ArgyllGran for all the info much appreciated ,I will put the parents names as james kerr and helen smith on my tree and see if I get any hints from other trees with same family names ,regards sandra

Thank you ArgyllGran for all the info much appreciated ,I will put the parents names as james kerr and helen smith on my tree and see if I get any hints from other trees with same family names ,regards sandra

Ah, here's young James's marriage - I was looking for a marriage to a Helen:

COMISKIE NELLIE
KERR JAMES
1914
476 / 1 / 22
Denny

Parents' marriage:

James Carr
in the Scotland, Select Marriages, 1561-1910
Name James Carr
Gender Male
Marriage Date 18 Sep 1868
Marriage Place Denny, Stirling, Scotland
Spouse
Helen Smith

James Kerr
in the 1881 Scotland Census
Name James Kerr
Age 8
Estimated Birth Year abt 1873
Relationship Son
Father's Name James Kerr
Mother's Name Helen Kerr
Gender Male
Where born Denny, Stirlingshire
Registration Number 476/1
Registration district Denny
Civil parish Denny
Town Denny
County Stirlingshire
Address Springbank
Occupation Scholar
ED 2
Household schedule number 2
Line 8
Roll cssct1881_132
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
James Kerr 30 Head
Helen Kerr 34 Wife
Andrew Kerr 15 Son
William Kerr 12 Son
James Kerr 8 Son
Helen Kerr 1 Daughter


James Kerr
in the 1901 Scotland Census
Name James Kerr
Age 27
Estimated Birth Year abt 1874
Relationship Son
Father's Name James Kerr
Mother's Name Helen Kerr
Gender Male
Where born Denny, Stirlingshire
Registration Number 476/1
Registration district Denny
Civil parish Denny
Town Denny
County Stirlingshire
Address 44 Springfield Rd
Occupation Coal Pit Drawer
ED 2
Household schedule number 293
Line 9
Roll CSSCT1901_154
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
James Kerr 54 Head
Helen Kerr 59 Wife
James Kerr 27 Son
William Wilson 34 Boarder

Possibly this one -

James Kerr
in the 1891 Scotland Census
Name James Kerr
Age 18
Estimated Birth Year abt 1873
Relationship Son
Father's Name James Kerr
Mother's Name Helen Kerr
Gender Male
Where born Denny, Stirlingshire
Registration Number 476/1
Registration district Denny
Civil parish Denny
Town Denny
County Stirlingshire
Address East Borland
Occupation Iron Miner
ED 2
Household schedule number 61
Line 4
Roll CSSCT1891_147
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
James Kerr 44 Head
Helen Kerr 46 Wife
Andrew Kerr 26 Son
William Kerr 22 Son
James Kerr 18 Son
Helen Kerr 12 Daur (Daughter)


Baptism, with mmn Smith:

James Kerr
in the Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
Name James Kerr
Gender Male
Birth Date 12 Nov 1872
Birth Place Denny,Stirling,Scotland
Father James Kerr
Mother Helen Smith

So -
James was born c1873, and his mother's maiden surname was Smith.

If you buy a copy of his death cert (6 credits on SP) , it will give you more details.

This is presumably Helen's burial - on FS:

Helen Kerr
in the UK and Ireland, Find a Grave® Index, 1300s-Current
Name Helen Kerr
Birth Date 1891
Death Date 22 Apr 1968
Cemetery Denny Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place Denny, Falkirk, Scotland

The gravestone (in the photo) says:

James Kerr
Died 6th June 1933 (therefore the death I posted above - 1933, not 1937)
Aged 60 years.
Helen Comisky
Died 22nd April 1968


Her death on SP, with different spelling:

COMISKIE (also registered as Kerr)
HELEN
77
F
1968
476 / 1 / 30
Denny and Dunipace

There is no record of that death on Scotlands People, going by the details you've given.

The only James Kerr whose death is registered around that time, and specifically in Denny, died in 1933.

KERR
JAMES
60
mmn SMITH
M
1933
476 / 1 / 24
Denny and Dunipace


His marriage cert will give his parents' names:
But I'm not seeing the marriage you mention.

EDIT:
But see post at 14:26

Could someone help me please to find parents and ancestors of James Kerr who died in 1937 Denny stirlingshire,he married Helen Cumiskey in Denny in 1914 ,I have helena family but cannot seem to find any ancestors of James .best regards Sandra