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searching for the whereabouts of Francis William sanders who married in 1932 to an Alice Parker. Alice was approx 16 and Francis 18.
Alice went on to marry Anthony ward in 1947 in Manchester. Both sanders, and ward were from Yorkshire but Alice was originally from Manchester.
Francis disappears after the marriage and we can't find out what happened to him at all. We do know that he went into the second world war so perhaos this is when Alice nee Parker met Anthony ward who was a miner.
can anyone help discover what might have happened to Francis w sanders who was born in Bradford :-)

Anthony wards parents are George and catherine nee Dean both from Wolverhampton :-)

When Alice re-married, what did she declare as her status?

1939 Register
3 Upper Hatfield Place, Havercroft, Ryhill, Hemsworth R.D., Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Ethel Parker 28 Apr ? Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed 252 1
Alice Ward (Sanders) 12 Apr 1915 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 252 2
Sheila K Sanders 21 Jun 1934 Female At School Single 252 3



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1939 Register
31 Mytton Street, Manchester, Manchester C.B., Lancashire, England

Living with grandmother, Louisa................

Name Francis W Sanders
Gender Male
Marital Status Married
Birth Date 31 Jan 1914
Residence Date 1939
Residence Place Manchester, Lancashire, England
Occupation Turner Centre Lathe H W
Line Number 29
Schedule Number 253
Sub Schedule Number 1
Enumeration District Njgr
Borough Manchester
Registration district 464 - 2



1921 Census Of England & Wales
49, Warwick Street, Hulme, South Manchester, Lancashire, England
Louisa Sanders Head Female 1867 54 Lytham, Lancashire, England Home Duties -
Eva Augusta Sanders Daughter Female 1888 33 Lytham, Lancashire, England Waitress Roberts Cafe & C
Frances William Sanders Grandson Male 1914 7 Bradford, England - - FATHER DEAD

Marriages Mar 1914 (>99%)
COOPER Kathleen Sanders Bradford 9b 277
Sanders John Cooper Bradford 9b 277

Do you have the second marriage certificate? Does Alice say she is a widow or divorced?

Can we assume you've checked the CWGC site?

The marriage (note the first name is Alicia not Alice):-

First name(s) Alecia
County Lancashire
Last name Parker
Country England
Marriage quarter 4
Volume 8D
Marriage year 1932
Volume as transcribed 8D
Registration month -
Page number 370
MarriageFinder™ Alecia Parker married one of these people
Francis W Sanders
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Spouse's last name Sanders
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
District Manchester South
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
District number -
Collections from Great Britain, England

Kath. x

Francis in 1921 census:-

18, Derby Street, Hulme, South Manchester, Lancashire, England

Household members (5 people)

First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer

John Sanders Head Male 1889 31 Lytham, Lancashire, England Builders Labourer Mr George Bridge, Contractor
Annie Sanders Wife Female 1890 31 Hulme, Lancashire, England House Dutys At Home
Frank Edgar Sanders Son Male 1921 - Hulme, Lancashire, England - -
Francis William Sanders Son Male 1914 7 Bradford, Yorkshire, England <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
John Bailey Step-son Male 1916 5 Hulme, Lancashire,
England -

The record states that Francis's mother was dead so Annie must be John's second wife.

Kath. x

SANDERS, FRANCIS WILLIAM COOPER
GRO Reference: 1914 M Quarter in BRADFORD Volume 09B Page 251


SANDERS, FRANK EDGAR TAYLOR
GRO Reference: 1921 M Quarter in CHORLTON Volume 08C Page 1588
BAILEY, JOHN TAYLOR
GRO Reference: 1916 M Quarter in CHORLTON Volume 08C Page 1466 Occasional Copy: A

Baptism: 7 Oct 1888 St Cuthbert, Lytham, Lancashire, England
Eva Augusta Sanders - [Child] of Francis James Sanders & Louisa
Born: 3 Jun 1888
Abode: Hastings Place Lytham
Occupation: Gardener
Baptised by: H B Hawkins
Register: Baptisms 1854 - 1900, Page 160, Entry 1274
Source: LDS Film 1470929

Marriage: 25 May 1887 St Cuthbert, Lytham, Lancashire, England
Francis James Sanders - 25, Gardener, Bachelor, Lytham
Louisa Worthington - 22, Spinster, Lytham
Groom's Father: James Sanders, Builder
Bride's Father: George Worthington, Garderner
Witness: John Worthington; Annie Faulkner
Married by Banns by: H. B. Hawkins
Register: Marriages 1896 - 1900, Page 91, Entry 181
Source: LSD Film 1470929

Baptism: 13 Apr 1890 St Cuthbert, Lytham, Lancashire, England
John Saunders - [Child] of Francis Saunders & Louisa
Abode: Catworth nr Preston
Occupation: Gardener
Baptised by: H B Hawkins
Register: Baptisms 1854 - 1900, Page 165, Entry 1315
Source: LDS Film 1470929

SANDERS, EVA AGUSTA WORTHINGTON
GRO Reference: 1888 S Quarter in FYLDE Volume 08E Page 693

SANDERS, JOHN WORTHINGTON
GRO Reference: 1889 D Quarter in FYLDE Volume 08E Page 676

Deaths Dec 1915 (>99%)
Sanders Kathleen 23 Chorlton 8c 1158

Granny must have been confused in 1921.......................saying Father dead, rather than Mother


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
9, Frenchwood Street, Preston, Lancashire, England
Francis J Sanders Head Married Male 39 1862 Gardener Cullompton, Devon, England
Louisa Sanders Wife Married Female 34 1867 - Lytham, Lancashire, England
Eva A Sanders Daughter - Female 12 1889 - Lytham, Lancashire, England
John Sanders Son - Male 11 1890 - Lytham, Lancashire, England
Nancy Simpson Boarder Single Female 24 1877 Mantle sales woman Aylestone, Leicestershire, England

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Francis William Sanders
in the UK and Ireland, Find a Grave® Index, 1300s-Current
Name Francis William Sanders
Death Date 19 Sep 1945
Cemetery Southern Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place Chorlton-Cum-Hardy, Metropolitan Borough of Manchester, Greater Manchester, England

This man didn't die in England , Scotland or Wales, and isn't on the CWGC website.


>>> Kathleen Sanders is buried in the same plot (No. SConsecrated 588) :

Kathleen Sanders
Birth
unknown
Death
4 Dec 1915
Burial
Southern Cemetery
Chorlton-Cum-Hardy, Metropolitan Borough of Manchester, Greater Manchester, England
Plot SConsecrated 588
Memorial ID 156411547

Death in I.O.M. Posted at 14.29

oh wow thanks for all this. I'll find out if the second marriage cert is available. I know Alice had a child leonard sanders but then ch nged to leonard ward in 1941 in Hemsworth. So we think Anthony is the father and it actually says so on the second birth cert. When we applied for the first one under the name leonard sanders they were told it was cancelled :-(

so I guess Alice was told that Francis William sanders had died in 1945 so that's why she did not marry Anthony ward until 1947 Despite having a child with him in 1941. Is it possible to get death certificate from Isle of man easily enough? :-)

thanks so much for finding the death of Francis. Alice was only 16 when they married and Francis was only 18 so very young. The child Sheila kathleen sadly died aged around five years old I think after a fall which must have been traumatic :-)

strange that Francis William sanders was on the census of 1921 twice at two different houses. Was that common for thst in 1921
so do you think the body was brought back to Manchester and buried there. .

I'm confused now. Soneone else has found a death for a Francis William sanders in 1987 in Bradford. He was the one born in March 1914.. So we're there two Francis William sanders? I'm now very confused :-(

This is the one who died in 1987, wrong date of birth.

Name: Francis Sanders
Death Age: 72
Birth Date: 9 Mar 1914
Registration Date: Jan 1987
Registration District: Bradford
Inferred County: West Yorkshire
Volume: 4
Page: 118


His birth?

Name: Francis Sanders
Registration Date: 1914
Quarter of the Year: Apr-May-Jun
Registration Place: Bradford, Yorkshire West Riding,
Mother: Scully
Volume: 9b
Page: 229


Your Francis was born 31 Jan 1914 according to the 1939 register posted above.