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Ah well spotted AG

Death of the 1857 child:

MCCAFFREY
THOMAS
mmn CARRIN
M
1860
622 / 2 / 61
Springburn

Thomas (the tailor) on the Valuation Roll in 1855:

MACCAFFRAY
THOMAS
Tenant
HOUSE [153] GARNGAD ROAD
GLASGOW
1855
VR010700003-

Occupation: tailor.


That's as far back as the Valuation Rolls go on SP.

Seems like they could both be correct?

Thomas McAffery b 28 Jan 1857 at 157 Garngad Road
Father: Thomas McAffery tailor
Mother: Ann MS McCarrin.

I presume this youngster died but can't find a death.

The 1860 birth in High Church reg district is the correct one.

I've used a few credits to look at the cert (although I expect Kelzi has already done that).

Born 19th May 1860 at 130 Garngad Road (same street as in 1861).
Father: Thomas McCaffery, master tailor
Mother: Ann McCaffery, maiden name McCavin. (could be McCarin)

1921 with an 1857 birthdate.

1921 Census Of England & Wales
97, Albert Street, Barrow-In-Furness, Barrow in Furness, Lancashire, England

Household members (11 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer
Thomas Carr Head
Male 1883 38 Barrow in Furness, Lancashire, England Platers Helper Vickers Ltd
Maggie Carr Wife
Female 1889 32 Barrow in Furness, Lancashire, England Household Duties -
>>Thomas Carr Visitor
Male 1857 63 Barrow in Furness, Lancashire, England Oil Worker Labourer Anglo American Oil Co
Dora Carr Daughter
Female 1910 10 Barrow in Furness, Lancashire, England - -
Thomas Harttey Carr Son
Male 1912 9 Barrow in Furness, Lancashire, England - -
Margaret Sarah Carr Daughter
Female 1913 8 Barrow in Furness, Lancashire, England - -
Evelyn Carr Daughter
Female 1913 7 Barrow in Furness, Lancashire, England - -
Bertha Carr Daughter
Female 1916 5 Barrow in Furness, Lancashire, England - -
Marion Carr Daughter
Female 1917 4 Barrow in Furness, Lancashire, England - -
Robinson Carr Lodger
Male 1896 25 Barrow in Furness, Lancashire, England Platers Helper Vickers Ltd
John Carr Son
Male 1921 - Barrow in Furness, Lancashire, England - -


and 1860 birthdate.


1911 Census For England & Wales
91 Albert St Barrow-In-Furness, Barrow in Furness, Lancashire, England

Household members (2 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Carr Head
Widower Male 51 1860 Labourer oil works Greennock Resident
Maggie Carr Daughter
Single Female 21 1890 - Barrow in Furness

MCCAFFARY
THOMAS
MCCAVIN
M
1860
644 / 2 / 864
High Church


or maybe


MCAFFERY
THOMAS
MCCARRIN
M
1857
622 / 2 / 40
Springburn

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Garngad Road, Springburn, High Church, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Household members (8 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas McCafferty Head
Married Male 65 1796 Tailor Ireland
Ann McCafferty Wife
Married Female 35 1826 - Ireland
Patrick McCafferty Son
Unmarried Male 15 1846 Iron works lab Ireland
James McCafferty Son
Unmarried Male 13 1848 Iron works lab Ireland
Thomas McCafferty Son
- Male 0 1861 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Hugh Burns Lodger
Unmarried Male 25 1836 Iron works lab Ireland
Francis Muldoon Lodger
Unmarried Male 55 1806 Iron works lab Ireland
Edward Finney Lodger
Unmarried Male 40 1821 Scrap iron dealer Ireland

Thomas snr?

Scotland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms
Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
View original record
Transcript of Thomas's record
First name(s) Thomas
Diocese Glasgow
Last name McCafferty
County Lanarkshire
Sex Male
Country Scotland
Birth year 1860
Archive The Scottish Catholic Archives
Birth date 10 May 1860
Archive reference MP/67
Baptism year 1860
Volume 01
Baptism date 11 May 1860
Section 01
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Sub-section 02
Father's last name McCafferty
Year range 1851-1878
Mother's first name(s) Ann
Record set Scotland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms
Mother's last name McCarron
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Denomination Roman Catholic
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Parish St Mungo
Collections from Great Britain, Scotland
Place Glasgow

BRILLIANT !!!
THANK YOU SO MUCH !!!
This is the lead I've been looking for.
I've now found what looks like a pretty reliable tree on Ancestry that I can check out .

1851 for the 1861 family:

Thomas McCafferry
in the 1851 Scotland Census
Name: Thomas McCafferry
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relationship: Head
Spouse: Ann McCafferry
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Parish Number: 644/2
Civil Parish: Gorbals
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 26
Occupation: Tailor
ED: 9
Page: 10
Household Schedule Number: 42
Line: 7
Roll: CSSCT1851_163
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas McCafferry 30
Ann McCafferry 42
Patrick McCafferry 6
James McCafferry 4
Michael Caroughlin 60 - lodger
Frances Caroughlin 24 - lodger [male, per transcription ]

All born in Ireland.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if they lied? It's the same with Sarah Holden,the bride on the 1876 marriage? She's down on three different censuses as born in three different areas.I only know her father was named as Patrick on marriage certificate.I can find absolutely nothing prior to her marriage,

From various tales in the family I've been told they were of Irish descent,named McCafferty,but couldn't get jobs on arrival in Scotland,due to their Catholic religion,appearance-pale,redheads & Irish sounding surname,so 'altered' it to McCaffery (don't know how true this was ? Definite name change between 1879 & 1881 though-apparently for the same reasons,altough they had jobs ? My grandad said it was because none of them could spell the surname :)

It would help if you could C&P the 1861 you refer to

EDIT

Found it - McCafferTy

Head’s occ: Tailor

ALL family except Thomas jnr born IRELAND

Look for parents’ marriage on Irishgenealogy, or even familysearch

What was the occupation of the father on the 1876 marriage cert?

‘Full age’ in 1876 means born no later than 1855 - unless he lied

Seeking help on the above family (my GGGGrandfather)

My GGgrandfather was Thomas McCaffery,born 1879 in Barrow-in-Furness to Thomas McCaffery & Sarah (Holden).
Thomas (senior) is said to have been born in Greenock (Scotland) c 1860,according to the 1911 census,which they completed themselves?.Other censuses say otherwise.
The family had changed their surname between 1879 & April 1881 to CARR.I have them on the 1881,1891,1901,1911 & 1921,but can't find them on the 1871 anywhere?
I think I might have them on the 1861 census in High Church,Glasgow,as I do know from Thomas (Juniors) marriage certificate & baptism record,his mother was called Annie & father Thomas..Marriage certificate from 1876 just states 'of full age' ?
I can't find them on the 1851 census either?
If the 1861 census is correct,Thomas (Seniors) siblings were born in Ireland in the late 1840s,so maybe they weren't in Scotland? Thomas (b 1860) mother appears to be Annie McCavin/McGavin although I can't see a marriage in Scotland.
Any help on census details or marriage of Thomas & Annie McCavin would be very much appreciated.

THANK YOU.