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1 Mar 2023 09:14 |
I looked into this family last evening. It's the wrong one - the name patterns are wrong and I subsequently found the correct one.
However, it's a sad story in this family as Thomas was very successful but tragically died aged 42..... 4 of the daughters must have pledged to stay with their mother and are shown all together in 1861, 1871, 1881, 1891 and 1901. Follow their mother's death, they are still together in 1911!
Thank you for your help. My Thomas married Blanch Commins and emigrated to Wisconsin, like other members of the family.
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ErikaH
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28 Feb 2023 13:46 |
Name: Lucy Amelia Davey Registration Year: 1873 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration District: Plymouth Inferred County: Devon Volume: 5b Page: 385 Lucy Amelia Davey Frederick Watt
Name: Lucy Amelia Watt Death Date: 14 Sep 1924 Death Place: Middlesex, England Probate Date: 9 Oct 1924 Probate Registry: London, England Probate to widower, Frederick Watt, Music Publisher
1921 Census Of England & Wales 14, Grays Park, Ealing, Middlesex, England Frederick Watt Head Male 1846 75 Plymouth, Devon, England Music Publisher Employer Lucy A Watt Wife Female 1847 73 Tuckingmill, Cornwall, England Home Duties - Olive M Watt Daughter Female 1886 35 Hampstead, London, England Music Teacher Askes Halcham Girls School And Private Annie E Hawkins Lodger Female 1895 25 Wokingham, Berkshire, England Domestic Servant Private Beatrice Hogburn Lodger Female 1902 18 Binfield, Berkshire, England Domestic Servant Private
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ErikaH
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28 Feb 2023 13:42 |
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Porter Terrace, Camborne, Redruth, Cornwall, England Thomas Davey Head Married Male 40 1821 Powder rope manufacturer employing 17 mans Camborne, Cornwall, England Ann A Davey Wife Married Female 38 1823 - Redruth, Cornwall, England Lucy A Davey Daughter - Female 13 1848 Scholar Camborne, Cornwall, England Anna L Davey Daughter - Female 12 1849 Scholar Illogan, Cornwall, England Frederick S Davey Son - Male 10 1851 Scholar Illogan, Cornwall, England Emma Davey Daughter - Female 8 1853 Scholar Illogan, Cornwall, England Kate Davey Daughter - Female 6 1855 Scholar Illogan, Cornwall, England Laura Davey Daughter - Female 1 1860 - Camborne, Cornwall, England Caroline Pascoe Servant Unmarried Female 24 1837 House servant Camborne, Cornwall, England Grace Richard Servant Unmarried Female 24 1837 House servant Camborne, Cornwall, England
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ErikaH
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28 Feb 2023 13:36 |
DAVEY, ANNA LOUISA HEYNES GRO Reference: 1848 D Quarter in REDRUTH UNION Volume 09 Page 243 DAVEY, ELLEN ANNETTE HEYNES GRO Reference: 1846 J Quarter in REDRUTH UNION Volume 09 Page 248 DAVEY, LUCY AMELIA HEYNES GRO Reference: 1847 D Quarter in REDRUTH UNION Volume 09 Page 217 DAVEY, FREDERIC JOHN HEYNES GRO Reference: 1850 D Quarter in REDRUTH Volume 09 Page 248
The above only verifies the fact of the marriage - to be 100% certain that you have picked the right one, you need a copy of the cert, for father's details
The occupation for Thomas in 1851 was Rope Manufacturer
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ErikaH
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27 Feb 2023 17:59 |
Age on marriage cert probably just says ‘FULL’ so assumed by transcriber to be 21
Bear in mind for future
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27 Feb 2023 17:54 |
Have two possible baptisms: 1818 and 1821.
Father is a mason in 1818 and miner in 1821. Film No 236535 Day Month 24-Feb Year 1821 Parish Circuit Or Chapel Camborne Forename Thomas Surname DAVEY Sex Age Or Date Of Birth Father Forename Thomas Mother Forename Mary Residence Tucking Mill Parish Status Or Occupation Miner Where Baptised Notes Transcriber Notes src: Tapley-Soper transcripts Transcriber Sally Cann
Film No 236535 Day Month 26-Dec Year 1818 Parish Circuit Or Chapel Camborne Forename Thomas Surname DAVEY Sex Age Or Date Of Birth Father Forename Thomas Mother Forename Mary Residence Roskear Parish Status Or Occupation Mason Where Baptised Notes Transcriber Notes src: Tapley-Soper transcripts Transcriber Sally Cann
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27 Feb 2023 17:48 |
Thomas Davey, Bachelor Principal England, Devon and Cornwall Marriages, 1660-1912
Marriage 1 January 1845 Redruth, Cornwall, England, United Kingdom Birth 1824 SpousesAnna Heynes, Spinster
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27 Feb 2023 17:47 |
Thank you all ever so much. being away from researching my family for a few years has taken its toll on forgetting the tricks of the trade! Probably not a bad idea to find a death and work backwards, it seems.
May have a marriage for Thomas but his age doesn't add up although it ties in with his baptism year.
Name: Thomas Davey Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Anna Davey Gender: Male Where born: Camborne, Cornwall, England Civil Parish: Illogan Ecclesiastical parish: Tuckingmill All Saints Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Street Address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration District: Redruth Sub-registration District: Redruth ED, institution, or vessel: 1a Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 27 Piece: 1915 Folio: 357 Page Number: 8 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Davey 30 Anna Davey 28 Ellen A Davey 4 Lucy A Davey 3 Anna L Davey 2 Fredric J Davey 8 Mo Eliza J Williams 22 Elizth A Giles 15
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27 Feb 2023 11:37 |
Name: Francis Gilbert Richards Gender: Male Initiation Age: 40 Birth Year: abt 1822 Initiation Date: 10 Jul 1862 First Payment Year on Register: 1862 Year range: 1837-1862 Profession: Publican Lodge: Union Lodge Lodge Location: Neco Westminster British Columbia Lodge Number: 1201 Folio Number: 284
Name: Francis Gilbert Richards Birth Date: 1821 Death Date: 28 Nov 1896 Death Place: British Columbia, Canada Cemetery: Ross Bay Cemetery Burial or Cremation Place: Victoria, Capital Regional District, British Columbia, Canada Spouse: Ann Richards
Name: Francis G Richards Gender: Male Race: White Age: 28 Birth Year: abt 1822 Birthplace: England Home in 1850: Dodgeville, Iowa, Wisconsin, USA Occupation: Tailor Industry: Apparel and Accessories Stores, Except Shoe Line Number: 8 Dwelling Number: 1180 Family Number: 1180 Inferred Spouse: Ann Richards Household Members (Name) Age Francis G Richards 28 Ann Richards 28 Joseph Penberthy 19 Martin Cornelius 25 Benjamin Rule 21
Name: Francis G Richard Gender: Male Marital Status: Married Age: 69 Birth Year: abt 1822 Birth Place: England Residence Date: 1891 Residence Place: Victoria City James Bay Ward, Victoria, British Columbia, Canada Relation to Head: Head Religion: Methodist Can Read: Y Can Write: Y French Canadian: No Spouse: Ann Richard Father's Birth Place: England Mother's Birth Place: England Division Number: 7 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship Francis G Richard 69 Head Ann Richard 69 Wife Annie Hinde 36 Lodger Joseph R Richards 28 Son
Name: Ann Richards Birth Date: 2 Feb 1821 Birth Place: Cornwall, England Death Date: 14 Dec 1892 Death Place: Victoria, Capital Regional District, British Columbia, Canada Cemetery: Ross Bay Cemetery Burial or Cremation Place: Victoria, Capital Regional District, British Columbia, Canada Spouse: Francis Gilbert Richards
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27 Feb 2023 11:13 |
Name: Elizabeth Soudon Age: 31 Birth Date: Abt 1849 Birthplace: England Home in 1880: Dodgeville, Iowa, Wisconsin, USA Dwelling Number: 208 Race: White Gender: Female Relation to Head of House: Daughter Marital Status: Single Father's Name: Henry Soudon Father's Birthplace: England Mother's Name: Mary Soudon Mother's Birthplace: England Household Members (Name) Age Relationship Henry Soudon 61 Self (Head) Mary Soudon 57 Wife Elizabeth Soudon 31 Daughter Thomas D. Soudon 27 Son Louisa E. Soudon 21 Daughter Gussie Soudon 16 Daughter
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27 Feb 2023 11:12 |
Name: Elizabeth Londen Gender: Female Race: White Age: 35 Birth Date: abt 1851 Birth Place: England Marriage Date: 28 Apr 1886 Marriage Place: Ishpeming, Marquette, Michigan, USA Residence Place: Ishpeming, Michigan Spouse: Daniel E Amos......Age 44, b. Wales
Name: Daniel E. Amos Birth Date: 30 Apr 1842 Birth Place: Llangendeirne, Carmarthenshire, Wales Death Date: 27 Dec 1898 Death Place: Laurium, Houghton County, Michigan, United States of America Cemetery: Lake View Cemetery Burial or Cremation Place: Calumet, Houghton County, Michigan, United States of America Father Name: Thomas Amos Mother Name: Anna Piece
Name: Elizabeth M Amos [Elizabeth M Annas] Age: 66 Birth Year: abt 1854 Birthplace: England Home in 1920: Laurium, Houghton, Michigan Street: Osceola Street Residence Date: 1920 Race: White Gender: Female Immigration Year: 1860 Relation to Head of House: Head Marital Status: Widowed Father's Birthplace: England Mother's Birthplace: England Native Tongue: English Able to Speak English: Yes Home Owned or Rented: Owned Home Free or Mortgaged: Mortgaged Naturalization Status: Naturalized Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Household Members (Name) Age Relationship Elizabeth M Amos 66 Head Steven Stiglich 33 Lodger
1851 census Name: Daniel Amos Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relation: Son Father's Name: Thomas Amos Mother's Name: Hanah Amos Gender: Male Where born: Llangendeirne, Carmarthenshire, Wales Civil Parish or Township: Llangendeirne Ecclesiastical parish: Carmarthen Town: Llangendeirne County/Island: Carmarthenshire Country: Wales Registration District: Carmarthen Sub-registration District: Llangendeirne ED, institution, or vessel: 4a Piece: 2472 Folio: 185 Page Number: 15 Household Schedule Number: 33 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Amos 36 Hanah Amos 36 Eliza Amos 12 Daniel Amos 9 Mary Amos 3 David Amos 3 Mo
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27 Feb 2023 11:11 |
Name: Elizabeth M Sandau [Soudan] Age: 12 Birth Year: abt 1848 Gender: Female Race: White Birth Place: England Home in 1860: Dodgeville, Iowa, Wisconsin*************************************** Post Office: Dodgeville Dwelling Number: 49 Family Number: 49 Attended School: Y Inferred Father: Henry Sandau Inferred Mother: Mary Sandau Household Members (Name) Age Henry Sandau 40 Mary Sandaub 36 Alexandre Sandau 14 Elizabeth M Sandau 12 William H Sandau 10 Thomas Sandau 8 Luisa Ellen 2.................born Wisconsin
From the GRO site - it's FREE - make a note
SOWDEN, ALEXANDER JOHNS DAVEY GRO Reference: 1846 D Quarter in REDRUTH UNION Volume 09 Page 243
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ErikaH
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27 Feb 2023 10:58 |
For INFO
Day Month 26-Feb Year 1846 Parish Circuit Or Chapel Camborne Groom Fn Francis Gilbert Groom Sn RICHARDS Groom Age full age Groom Residence Town of Camborne Groom Condition bachelor Groom Rank Profession Tailor Groom Signed / Marked (S/M) S Groom Father Name John Groom Father Rank Profession Shoemaker Bride Fn Ann Bride Sn DAVEY Bride Age full age Bride Residence Town of Camborne Bride Condition spinster Bride Rank Profession Dressmaker Bride Signed / Marked (S/M) S Bride Father Name Thomas Bride Father Rank Profession Mason Banns / Licence (B/L) B Witness Fn1 John Witness Sn1 Richards Witness Fn2 Thomas Witness Sn2 Davey
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27 Feb 2023 04:49 |
????????? Francis' baptism
First name(s) Francis Last name Davey Gender Male Birth year 1829 Baptism year 1829 Baptism date 9 May 1829 Parish Camborne Father's first name(s) Thomas Father's last name Davey Mother's first name(s) Mary Mother's last name - Relationship Son Place Camborne County Cornwall Country England Record set Cornwall Baptisms Category Life Events (BDMs) Subcategory Parish Baptisms Collections from England, Great Britain
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27 Feb 2023 04:35 |
????????? Jane in 1861
1861 Census
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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Jane J Davey Head Unmarried Female 40 1821 Plain needle woman Camborne, Cornwall, England Fredrick Davey Son - Male 14 1847 Carpenter apprentice Truro, Cornwall, England
First name(s) Jane J Last name Davey Relationship Head Marital status Unmarried Sex Female Age 40 Birth year 1821 Birth town Camborne Birth town as transcribed CAMBORNE Birth county Cornwall Birth county as transcribed CORNWALL Birth place other England Occupation Plain needle woman Full address Victoria Street, Camborne, Redruth, Cornwall, England Street Victoria Street Town Camborne Parish Camborne County Cornwall Country England Registration district Redruth Sub district 4 Camborne Enumeration district 2 Ecclesiastical parish or district St Martins Camborne Family member last name Davey Family member first name(s) Fredrick, Jane Archive reference RG09 Piece number 1583 Folio 49 Page 41 Schedule 188 Record set 1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Category Census, land & surveys Subcategory Census Collections from Great Britain, England
First name(s) Fredrick Last name Davey Relationship Son Marital status - Sex Male Age 14 Birth year 1847 Birth town Truro Birth town as transcribed TRURO Birth county Cornwall Birth county as transcribed CORNWALL Birth place other England Occupation Carpenter apprentice Full address Victoria Street, Camborne, Redruth, Cornwall, England Street Victoria Street Town Camborne Parish Camborne County Cornwall Country England Registration district Redruth Sub district 4 Camborne Enumeration district 2 Ecclesiastical parish or district St Martins Camborne Family member last name Davey Family member first name(s) Fredrick, Jane Archive reference RG09 Piece number 1583 Folio 49 Page 41 Schedule 188 Record set 1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Category Census, land & surveys Subcategory Census Collections from Great Britain, England
This looks like the birth registration for Frederick, born in the Truro Workhouse Infirmary
DAVEY, FREDERICK - GRO Reference: 1847 M Quarter in TRURO UNION Volume 09 Page 329
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27 Feb 2023 04:12 |
Is this the 1851 Census that you found with Jane Davey and son Frederic??
1851 Census
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Gilbert Head Married Male 67 1784 Pauper Redruth, Cornwall, England Elizabeth Gilbert Wife Married Female 66 1785 - Camborne, Cornwall, England Jane G Davey Niece Unmarried Female 36 1815 Sempstress Camborne, Cornwall, England Frederic Davey Nephew - Male 4 1847 - Truro, Cornwall, England
First name(s) Jane G Last name Davey Relationship Niece Marital status Unmarried Sex Female Age 36 Birth year 1815 Birth town Camborne Birth town as transcribed Camborne Birth county Cornwall Birth county as transcribed Cornwall Birth place England Occupation Sempstress Full address Victoria Street, Camborne, Redruth, Cornwall, England Street Victoria Street Town Camborne Parish Camborne County Cornwall Division of county Western Country England Ecclesiastical parish or district Camborne Registration district Redruth Sub district Camborne Enumeration district 1B Archive reference HO107 Piece number 1916 Folio 60 Page 36 Schedule 129 Record set 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Category Census, land & surveys Subcategory Census Collections from Great Britain, England
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27 Feb 2023 01:22 |
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John Davey in 1851????
1851 Census
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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Peter Trevithick Head Widower Male 63 1788 Copper & tin ore dresser Camborne, Cornwall, England Grace Gilbert Servant Unmarried Female 60 1791 House servt Camborne, Cornwall, England John Davey Lodger Unmarried Male 27 1824 Mason Camborne, Cornwall, England <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
First name(s) John Last name Davey Relationship Lodger Marital status Unmarried Sex Male Age 27 Birth year 1824 Birth town Camborne Birth town as transcribed Camborne Birth county Cornwall Birth county as transcribed Cornwall Birth place England Occupation Mason Full address Cross Street, Camborne, Redruth, Cornwall, England Street Cross Street Town Camborne Parish Camborne County Cornwall Division of county Western Country England Ecclesiastical parish or district Camborne Registration district Redruth Sub district Camborne Enumeration district 1B Archive reference HO107 Piece number 1916 Folio 56 Page 29 Schedule 108 Record set 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Category Census, land & surveys Subcategory Census Collections from Great Britain, England
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27 Feb 2023 01:15 |
Have you taken into account the fact that on the 1841 Census the ages of people over the age of 15 were supposed to be rounded up or down to the nearest 5?
So when using the 1841 as a basis for finding them in future censuses you have to use the possible year of birth + 5 years, not the more common 2 years.
Thus Mary, for example, could have been born between 1821 and 1831 (1826 +/- 5 years).
Same applies to Ann, John and William, who also show as being age 15!
The rounding of age has been applied in your family, as you can tell by the ages all ending in either 0 or 5, except for the 2 youngest children.
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26 Feb 2023 22:42 |
Name: Thomas Davey Age: 45 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796 Gender: Male Where born: Cornwall, England Civil parish: Camborne Hundred: Penwith County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Registration district: Redruth Sub-registration district: Camborne Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 141 Book: 2 Folio: 50 Page number: 20 Household Members (Name) Age Thomas Davey 45 Mary Davey 45 Thomas Davey 20 Jane Davey 20 Ann Davey 15 Mary Davey 15 John Davey 15 William Davey 15 Elizabeth Davey 13 Francis Davey 12
Hi – am trying to piece together this family but am hampered by the fact that most of the family had disappeared by the next census. Only Jane G (for Gilbert) Mills is with her parents – she is unmarried with child(!) Frederick, aged 4.
I can’t seem to locate (son) Thomas in 1851 – think I have found a baptism for him on 26 Dec 1818 (father being a mason at that time). Father Thomas is listed, I think, as a mason in the 1841 census and was born in Crowan.
I think I have Ann (dressmaker) marrying Francis Gilbert Richards in 1846, but again, no sign of the couple in 1851……
I’ve lost John after 1841, Mary marries Henry Sowden on 21 Dec 1845 in Camborne, is visible in 1851 but nowhere to be seem in 1861……
I know all about Elizabeth, Francis is with parents in 1851 and marries Jane Rowe on 7 May 1854. I think William marries Elizabeth Glasson on 25 Dec 1856 but cannot find them afterwards….
Any help with these missing persons is gladly welcome.
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