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Name: Edmund Cording
Gender: Male
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 9 Dec 1860
Baptism Place: St Antholin, Budge Row, City of London, England
Father: Edmund Cording
Mother: Mary Ann Cording

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
50, Mintern Street, St Leonards Shoreditch, Shoreditch, London & Middlesex, England
Edmund Cording Head Married Male 22 1839 Tailor Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Mary Ann Cording Wife Married Female 23 1838 Milliner -
Edmund Cording Son - Male 0 1861 - -

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Allerton Street, Shoreditch, London & Middlesex, England
Edward Cording Head Married Male 30 1821 Tailor Taunton, Somerset, England
Sarah Cording Wife Married Female 34 1817 - Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Edward Cording Son - Male 12 1839 Scholar Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Henry Cording Son - Male 11 1840 Scholar Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Ruth Cording Daughter - Female 9 1842 Scholar Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
George Cording Son - Male 6 1845 - Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Alfred Cording Son - Male 4 1847 - Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Frederick Cording Son - Male 2 1849 - Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Sarah Cording Daughter - Female 0 1851 - Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Lydia How Mother in law Widow Female 78 1773 Annuitant London, Middlesex, England
Edward Bundy Nephew - Male 7 1844 Scholar London, Middlesex, England

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Allerton Street, St Leonard Shoreditch, Shoreditch, London & Middlesex, England
Edward Howe Male 60 1781 Middlesex, England
Lydia Howe Female 65 1776 Middlesex, England
Edmund Cording Male 25 1816 -
Sarah Cording Female 20 1821 Middlesex, England
Edmund Cording Male 2 1839 Middlesex, England
Henry Cording Male 1 1840 Middlesex, England
James Bundy Male 5 1836 Middlesex, England

Thank you all. I will work back from Edmund, his father to see if I can find a familial connection. His DOB seems to span from 29/04/1892 to 1897.
He enlisted in 1910 - suspect he lied about his real DOB (1894) because he was not old enough to join!

Argyle Gran Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census :-D :-D :-D

ArgyllGran - you're on my thinking!!! Thanks!

Jude

Harry Cording
in the 1940 United States Federal Census
Name: Harry Cording
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: England
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1940: Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California
Map of Home in 1940:
Street: Farmdale
House Number: 4104
Farm: No
Inferred Residence in 1935: Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California
Residence in 1935: Los Angeles
Resident on farm in 1935: No
Citizenship: Alien
Sheet Number: 12B
Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 335
Occupation: Actor
House Owned or Rented: Owned
Value of Home or Monthly Rental if Rented: 6000
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: Elementary school, 8th grade
Duration of Unemployment: 12
Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker in private work
Weeks Worked in 1939: 20
Income: 5500
Income Other Sources: No
Neighbors:
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Harry Cording 41 Head
Margaret Cording 28 Wife
Margaret R Cording 5/12 Daughter


Harry Cording
in the 1950 United States Federal Census
Name: Harry Cording
Age: 59
Birth Date: abt 1891
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birth Place: England
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Residence Date: 1950
Home in 1950: Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California, USA
Street Name: La Tuna Canyon Road
House Number: 10115
Dwelling Number: 78
Farm: No
Acres: No
Occupation: Actor, Free Lance, Motion Pictures
Industry: Motion picture
Citizenship: Yes
Occupation Category: Other
Worked Last Week: No
Seeking Work: Yes
Worker Class: Private
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Harry Cording 59 Head
Margaret A Cording 37 Wife
Margaret R Cording 10 Daughter
William E Cording 7 Son
Louis C Cording 6 Son
Cherry D Cording 5 Daughter

As he didn't marry Margaret until after Marjorie's death, he wasn't living a double life.
But it appears that he and Marjorie had separated before 1920.

He first went to the US in 1919.
As you know, he became a naturalised US citizen in 1920, and in 1921 (posted earlier), Marjorie's with her parents in Sussex.
The naturalisation record says that Marjorie was "residing in England".

Hector/Harry made several trips between Bermuda (and Jamaica, and Buenos Aires, and Havana) and New York in 1920, 1921 and 1922 - when he was still a seaman - assistant steward.
Even if they hadn't already separated, Marjorie would have stayed in England during that time, and they would have been apart for a considerable time.

Hector William Cording
in the New York, U.S., State and Federal Naturalization Records, 1794-1943
Name: Hector William Cording
Declaration Age: 28
Record Type: Naturalization Declaration
Birth Date: 29 Apr 1892
Birth Place: Portsmouth, England
Departure Place: South Ampton
Arrival Date: 1 Sep 1919
Arrival Place: New York, New York, USA
Declaration Date: 13 Jul 1920
Court: U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York
Spouse:
Marjarie
Declaration Number: 88829
Box Number: 092

The plot thickens!

It seems he led a double-life. There is no mention of Marjorie in his USA years. But maybe it is significant that he did not marry Margaret until after Marjorie had died?

It seems almost impossible that there are two different Hector's!

So I'll try and work back from Edmund and Rose :-)

Jude

Hector is in 13 GR trees

Thank you everybody! I will try and digest all this!

Jude

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United States Obituary Notices

First name(s) Harry
Last name Cording
Full name as given Harry Cording
Birth year 1891
Birth date 29 Apr 1891
Death year 1954
Full dates April 29, 1891 - September 1954
Place -
State -
Country United States
Obituary text Harry was born on April 29, 1891 and passed away in September 1954.
Source link View the Source Record
Record set United States Obituary Notices
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Americas, United States


These notices are apparently taken from the website ..........

tributes.com

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British and Irish Roots Collection

First name(s) Hector
Last name Cording
Sex Male
Age 25y
Birth year 1897
Origin England
Origin country England
Destination country United States
Arrival year 1922
Arrival date 1922-10-02
Residence New York
Source dataset New York Passenger Lists & Arrivals
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Record set British & Irish Roots Collection
Category Travel & migration
Subcategory Migration
Collections from Americas, Great Britain, Ireland, United States

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First name(s) Hector William
Last name Cording
Sex Male
Age 38
Birth year 1900
Father's first name(s) Edmund
Father's last name Cording
Mother's first name(s) Rose Helen
Mother's last name Parker
Year 1938
Event date 12 Apr 1938
Place Los Angeles, California, United States
County Los Angeles
State California
Country United States
Spouse's first name(s) Margaret Agnes
Spouse's last name Fiero
Spouse's age 25
Spouse's birth year 1913
Spouse's father's first name(s) William W
Spouse's father's last name Fiero
Spouse's mother's first name(s) Margaret
Spouse's mother's last name Erskine
Notes Marriage Record
Record set United States Marriages
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
Collections from Americas, United States

1911 Census For England & Wales
67 Prince Albert Road Eastney Portsmouth, Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
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First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Edmund Cording Head Married Male 50 1861 Army pensioner bookselling Brixton London E C
Rose H Cording Wife Married Female 47 1864 Assisting in the business Bath
Victor H Cording Son Single Male 15 1896 Errand boy genl India Resident
Eric E C Cording Son - Male 2 1909 - Portsmouth

Married 25 years
7 children born, 2 have died

Britain, Campaign, Gallantry & Long Service Medals & Awards
Great Britain

First name(s) Lewis Edmund
Last name Cording
Year 1916
London Gazette reference 1st award LG:29765/26 Sep 1916©
Service number -
Rank 2lt
Regiment 1st Bn Rifle Brigade
Medal type Military Cross, 1914-1918
Decorations MC,MM,MID
Remarks MC at Redan Ridge 1 Jul 1916. MM as 9944 Sjt. Later RFC. MC gazetted before MM.
Country Great Britain
Record set Britain, Campaign, Gallantry & Long Service Medals & Awards
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory Medal Rolls and Honours
Collections from Great Britain, UK None
Naval & Military Press
Transcriptions © Naval & Military Press

Lewis Edmund Cording in 1914-20
Britain, Campaign, Gallantry & Long Service Medals & Awards

First name(s) Lewis Edmund
Last name Cording
Year 1914-20
Service number 9944
Third service number 9944
Rank Lance Sergeant,Second Lieutenant,Acting Adjutant
Second rank Second Lieutenant
Third rank Acting Adjutant
Regiment 1st Rifle Brigade, Royal Flying Corps
Second corps Royal Flying Corps
Third corps Royal Flying Corps
Service record Soldier Number: 9944, Rank: Lance Sergeant, Corps: 1st Rifle Brigade
Second service record Rank: Second Lieutenant, Corps: Royal Flying Corps
Third service record Soldier Number: 9944, Rank: Acting Adjutant, Corps: Royal Flying Corps
Image link http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D1949169
Country Great Britain
Medal type British Army Medal Index Cards, 1914-1920
Archive reference WO372/5
Archive reference description Campaign Medal Index Cards and Silver War Badge Cards
Record set Britain, Campaign, Gallantry & Long Service Medals & Awards
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory Medal Rolls and Honours
Collections from Great Britain, UK None

Lewis Edmund Cording in 1889
St George's Garrison Church, Woolwich, Kent: Baptism Register
Woolwich, Kent, England

First name(s) Lewis Edmund
Mother's last name -
Last name Cording
Father's occupation Bandman 2/B Rifle Rgd
Year 1889
Residence Cambridge Bks
Birth date 29 Mar 1889
Source St George's Garrison Church, Woolwich, Kent: Baptism Register
Birth place -
Document type Baptisms
Baptism year 1889
Records year range 1883-1891
Baptism date 22 May 1889
Archive reference WO 156/429
Place Woolwich
Page 163
County Kent
Archive The National Archives
Country England
Record set British Armed Forces And Overseas Births And Baptisms
Type Armed Forces
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Father's first name(s) Edmund
Subcategory Civil Births
Father's last name Cording
Collections from Great Britain, England
Mother's first name(s) Rose Helen

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Results for British Armed Forces and Overseas Births and Baptisms
Lilian M Cording
1887 Woolwich England
REG1 Gro Regimental Birth Indices (1761 To 1924)

Lewis E Cording
1889 Woolwich England
REG1 Gro Regimental Birth Indices (1761 To 1924)

Elsie R Cording
1891 Belfast Ireland
REG1 Gro Regimental Birth Indices (1761 To 1924)

Victor H Cording
1892 Belfast Ireland
REG1 Gro Regimental Birth Indices (1761 To 1924)

Hector William Cording
1894 Murree India
BARM Gro Army Birth Indices (1881 To 1965)

Hugh Victor Cording
1896 Rawalpindi India
BARM Gro Army Birth Indices (1881 To 1965)


Plus Eric Edward b 1908 as posted by ErikaH later on thread makes the 7 born as per 1911 census also posted later

1921 Census Of England & Wales
59, High Street, Battle, Sussex, England

William Henry Wheaton Head Male 1865 56 Exeter, Devon, England Ironmonger Own Account
Catherine Ellen Wheaton Wife Female 1870 51 Ashford, Kent, England Home Duties -
Marjorie Sybil Cording Daughter Female 1899 22 Worcester Park, Surrey, England Home Duties -
William Victor Wheaton Son Male 1903 17 Worcester Park, Surrey, England Ironmongers Assistant W H Wheaton Ironmonger Battle

Name: Hector Williiam Cording
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Birth Year: abt 1894
Marriage Date: 3 Jul 1918
Marriage Place: Cheam, St Dunstan, Surrey, England
Father: Edmund Cording
Spouse: Marjorie Sybil Walrond Wheaton

Name: Marjorie Sybil Watson Wheaton
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 3 Jul 1918
Marriage Place: Parish Church Cheam Surrey
Relationship to Soldier: Spouse
Form Title: Military History Sheet
Name Relation to Soldier
Hector William Cording Self (Head)
Marjorie Sybil Watson Wheaton Spouse

Name: Marjorie Sybil Walrond Cording
Age: 38
Birth Date: abt 1899
Death Date: abt 1937
Burial Date: 8 Dec 1937
Burial Place: Battle, Sussex, England
Parish as it Appears: Battle



Name: Hector W Cording
Gender: Male
Event Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 14 Apr 1938
Marriage Place: Unknown, California, USA
Spouse: Margaret A Fiero

Edmund Cording Discharged Army 16 November 1904 at Gosport (Hants - other side of Portsmouth Harbour to Portsmouth) on termination of his 2nd period of engagement

Medals - South Africa with clasps for Cape colony, Transvaal, couple of others

looks like he was in Malta when discharge papers completed 11/10/1904

Name: Hector William Cording
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 29 Apr 1894
Baptism Date: 10 Jun 1894
Baptism Age: 0
Baptism Place: Murree, Bengal, India
Father: Edmund Cording
Mother: Rose Helen
FHL Film Number: 512349



First name(s) Hector William
Residence county Hampshire
Last name Cording
Residence country England
Birth year 1892
Series WO 363
Age 27
Series description Wo 363 - First World War Service Records 'Burnt Documents'
Year 1919
Archive The National Archives
Service number 33712
Record set British Army Service Records
Regiment Royal Garrison Artillery
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Unit / Battalion Signal Depot, Fareham
Subcategory First World War
Residence town Portsea