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I dont know if it is Gerald or Margaret who is my relative, this is what I am also trying to establish.

Who told you that Gerald's father was called Edward?

He and Margaret seem still to be in Abergavenny.................look at the ER

Kathleen 1945

Shirley, yes I can ask

Only proof is the DNA

So the Jones name could be a red herring. How distant is the cousin match? Have you both done trees far back enough?

Devon and Wales are only 'not far' since the Severn Bridge was built ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)

Deborah

Could you just give us Gerald's year of birth - not the full date of birth?

Kath. x

Is Gerald 100% proven to be your relative?

It could be Kathleen, Tiverton,Devon isnt that far from wales.

Deborah

Can’t you ask Gerald for his parents info ?

Would he know if he had a brother Peter ?


Info

Name: Peter Jack Williams
Death Age: 66
Birth Date: 1 Feb 1932
Registration Date: Dec 1998
Registration District: Northampton
Inferred County: Northamptonshire
Register Number: C57B
District and Subdistrict: 6701C
Entry Number: 123

Marriages Jun 1939 (>99%)
Jones Florence W Williams Abergavenny 11a 53
Williams Irving A Jones Abergavenny 11a 53

They could have moved ErikaH.

Information from a distant cousin, found her through a DNA match with her, myself, my Mum and another cousin from my Jones/Richards side of the family.

What I am trying to do is work out how we are connected.

This could be Gerald's birth:-

First name(s) Gerald J
Country Wales
Last name Williams
Volume 11A
Birth quarter 4
Page 1594
Birth year 1928
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Mother's maiden name Bowden
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
District Llanelly
Subcategory Civil Births
County Carmarthenshire
Collections from Great Britain, Wales

Kath. x

So................GERALD born 1945, in Abergavenny district, MMN JONES
Married 1964 in Pontypool district

Going with the marriage Shirley found this could be Peter's birth (even though in a different district - people did move around):-

First name(s) Peter J
Country England
Last name Williams
Volume 5B
Birth quarter 1
Page 497
Birth year 1932
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Mother's maiden name Bowden
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
District Tiverton
Subcategory Civil Births
County Devon
Collections from Great Britain, England

Kath. x

Births Mar 1902
BOWDEN Florence Mary Bath 5c 506

What is your connection to this family?

Helps if we know where to make a start.....................or where you're starting from

The Williams Pugh one would fit the area, I did consider it, it may just be a case of ordering the birth certificate.

They had a son Gerald Williams who married Margaret C Nutt, wont put any dob's, still alive.

IGNOR THIS - probably wrong, see below

Could this be a possible marriage if Edward used his middle name? :-

First name(s) Florence M
County Breconshire
Last name Jones
Country Wales
Marriage quarter 2
Volume 11B
Marriage year 1935
Volume as transcribed 11B
Registration month -
Page number 188
MarriageFinder™ Florence M Jones married one of these people
Arthur E Williams
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Spouse's last name Williams
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
District Crickhowell
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
District number -
Collections from Great Britain, Wales

There is this birth for Arthur:-

First name(s) Arthur Edward
Country Wales
Last name Williams
Volume 11A
Birth quarter 3
Page 129
Birth year 1901
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Mother's maiden name Thomas
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
District Bedwellty
Subcategory Civil Births
County Monmouthshire
Collections from Great Britain, Wales

Kath. x

Looks a very good possibility

Marriages Dec 1925
Bowden Florence M Williams Woolwich 1d 2208
Williams Edward Bowden Woolwich 1d 2208

So it fits with the March birth registration

1939 from FMP..........a better layout

Edward Williams 06 Jun 1901 Male General Labourer Brick Works Married 61 1
Florence M Williams 01 Feb 1902 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 61 2
The record for this person is officially closed
Peter J Williams 01 Feb 1932 Male At School Single 61 4
The record for this person is officially closed.
The record for this person is officially closed.
The record for this person is officially closed.