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Carter

Carter Report 29 Jan 2023 10:47

Thank you to everyone for looking at this and I humbly apologise for not checking that i had made a post 4 months ago regarding this.

Ive had a lot going on and hadnt gone back to check.

I will close this thread to prevent people being upset

Thank you for all your help

Linda

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 29 Jan 2023 10:38

You say early in your post that Eliza is living (1841) with her Keen grandparents. :-S

HAve you found Eliza's birth and HER parents and linked them to the older keens?

Added: have you tried:
https://www.familyhistory.co.uk/staffordshire-family-history/

This a useful website where you wil find Betley parish surnames :
http://www.betley.net/

Carter

Carter Report 29 Jan 2023 10:36

Good Morning Erica,

I had totally forgotten that I had posted on here 4 months ago regarding George.

I apologise for using peoples time

I have been in conctact with Staffordshire Records Office and with the little information I have they couldnt help me but referred me to their records on FindMy Past.

Again I apologise if I have wasted peoples time .

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 29 Jan 2023 10:34

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1400622

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Jan 2023 10:21

You need to try to find Eliza’s baptism - have you tried Staffs Records Office?

BUT……

Why haven’t you added this to your previous thread about these people?
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Carter

Carter Report 29 Jan 2023 10:14

Hello
I wonder if someone could help me to sort out this family.
I'll try my best to put things in order.

DOBSON, GEORGE - GRO Reference: 1851 M Quarter NEWCASTLE UNDER LYME Volume 17 Page 94

and his twin sister

DOBSON, MARY -
GRO Reference: 1851 M Quarter in NEWCASTLE UNDER LYME Volume 17 Page 93

Their mother was ELIZA DOBSON born 1832 in Betley Staffordshire and there was no fathers name on George and Marys birth certificate

GEORGE and MARY although registered as DOBSON they were brought up with the surname KEEN

The first sighting I have is of ELIZA DOBSON on the 1841 census on ancestry

The names were transcribed incorrectly
Eliza was living with William and Mary KUN ( this should be KEEN )
and ELIZA DOPSON is their granddaughter aged 9

Name Eliza Dopson
Age 9
Estimated Birth Year 1832
Gender Female
Where born Staffordshire, England
Civil parish Betley
Hundred North Pirehill
County/Island Staffordshire
Country England
Registration district Newcastle under Lyme
Sub-registration district Audley
Neighbors View others on page
Piece 986
Book 14
Folio 14
Page number 23
Household members
Name Age
William Kun 60
Mary Kun 60
Joseph Johnson 30
John Kun 25
Eliza Dopson 9


On the 1851 census Eliza is living with MARY KEEN who is now widdowed

ELIZA and her twins GEORGE and MARY are now using the surname KEEN
The census says George is 3 years but he is 3 months

Name Eliza Keen
Age 19
Estimated Birth Year 1832
Relation Granddaughter
Gender Female
Where born Betley, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish Betley
Town Betley
County/Island Staffordshire
Country England
Registration district Newcastle Under Lyme
Sub-registration district Whitmore
ED, institution, or vessel 1
Neighbors View others on page
Household schedule number 15
Piece 2001
Folio 469
Page number 4
Household members
Name Age
Mary Keen 75
Eliza Keen 19
Geo Keen 3
Mary Keen 3 Mo


GEORGE marries HANNAH HEYWOOD in 1880 and on his marriage certificate his surname is KEEN and no fathers name given.

I suppose what I am trying to find out is how ELIZA DOBSON is related to the KEEN family. I know on the 2 census it states she is granddaughter but I am trying to find out who her parents were.

Any help would be very much appreciated .

Thank you in advance
Linda