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Hi heard a lot of rummers that my great grand parents were gypsy's or descended from them if any one with access to the censors could check to see if there are any clues

they are James Creasey b 1865 in East Grinstead married to Esther Buckland {a travellers name} born 1864 East Grinstead
Esther farther was Robert Buckland born 1834 place of birth unknown died 1872

hope some one can help
thanks Barry

How far back have you gone with your gr-grandparents' ancestry?

For our reference:

James Creasey
 in the 1881 England Census
Name: James Creasey
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: George Creasey
Mother: Amelia Creasey
Gender: Male
Where born: East Grinstead, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: Godstone
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street Address: Cottages
Education:
Employment status:
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Occupation: Carter (Ag Lab)
Registration District: Godstone
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors:
Piece: 804
Folio: 115
Page Number: 27
Household Members:
Name Age
George Creasey 57 - farm labourer, Tandridge, Surrey
Amelia Creasey 56
John Creasey 21
Thomas Creasey 19
James Creasey 17
Maria Creasey 15
Edward Creasey 11
William Creasey 12
Sydney Creasey 7
Amelia Creasey 24



James Creasey
in the 1871 England Census
Name: James Creasey
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: 1862
Relation: Son
Gender: Male
Where born: Godstone, Surrey, England
Civil parish: Godstone
Ecclesiastical parish: Felbridge
Town: Felbridge
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: Godstone
Sub-registration district: Godstone
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 7
Piece: 837
Folio: 38
Page number: 2
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
George Creasey 47 Head - agricultural labourer, Tandridge, Surrey
Amelia Creasey 45 Wife
Catherine Creasey 18 Daughter
John Creasey 11 Son
James Creasey 9 Son
Maria Creasey 5 Daughter
Edward Creasey 1 Son
Thomas Creasey 9 Son
William Creasey 1 Grandson

George and Amelia's marriage:

George Creasy
 in the Surrey, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1937
Name: George Creasy
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 10 Apr 1844
Marriage Place: Godstone, St Nicholas, Surrey, England
Parish as it Appears: Godstone
Father: George Creasy
Spouse: Milly Dearling


Son Edward's birth - just as proof that that's the correct marriage above:

CREASEY, EDWARD mmn DEARLING
GRO Reference: 1870 M Quarter in GODSTONE Volume 02A Page 189


George is traceable in all censuses 1841 - 1891 - and is an agricultural labourer in all of them.

George Creasey
in the UK and Ireland, Find a Grave Index, 1300s-Current
Name: George Creasey
Birth Date: 1824
Death Date: 1896
Cemetery: St John The Divine
Burial or Cremation Place: Felbridge, Tandridge District, Surrey, England
Spouse: Amelia Creasey

Esther and family - showing father's birthplace:

Robert Buckland
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Robert Buckland
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: 1836
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Horne, Surrey, England <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Civil parish: Burstow
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: Reigate
Sub-registration district: Horley
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 94
Piece: 834
Folio: 27
Page number: 19
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Robert Buckland 35 Head - agricultural carter
Harriett Buckland 35 Wife
George Buckland 12 Son
Sarah Ann Buckland 9 Daughter
Esther Buckland 7 Daughter
Jane Buckland 4 Daughter
Kate Buckland 2 Daughter

Robert's traceable back through all censuses.
Here's 1841, with his parents and siblings:

Robt Buckland
in the 1841 England Census
Name: Robt Buckland
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Gender: Male
Where born: Surrey, England
Civil parish: Horne
Hundred: Tandridge (First Division)
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: Godstone
Sub-registration district: Godstone
Neighbors:
Piece: 1077
Book: 5
Folio: 9
Page number: 13
Household Members (Name) Age
Robt Buckland 30 - agricultural labourer, born in Surrey
Sophia Buckland 46
Willm Buckland 13
James Buckland 10
Stephen Buckland 8
Robt Buckland 5
George Buckland 3

Also take a look at the Romany and traveller family history site.
www.rtfhs.org.uk

Interesting -
Esther's grandmother Sophia has the same surname as James's grandmother Amelia.

Robert Buckland
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538-1973
Name: Robert Buckland
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 1827
Marriage Place: Horne, Surrey, England
Spouse: Sophia Dearling
FHL Film Number: 1042203
Reference ID: 2:1FRMVF3


Sophia Dearling
 in the Surrey, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1937
Name: Sophia Dearling
Gender: Female
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 21 May 1827
Marriage Place: Horne, St Mary, Surrey, England
Parish as it Appears: Horne
Spouse: Robert Buckland

Witnesses:
Stephen Buckland and Philidelphia Baker

Barry

Use the FREE site familysearch, which has census info - as has freecen


https://www.familysearch.org/search/

https://www.freecen.org.uk/

Sophia was baptised in Horne on 17/8/1794. Her parents were William & Mary possibly Ledger..

According to the slander tax redemption records for Horne there were Dearlings, Buckland and Ledgers all living there in 1798

All the above from Ancestry.

All with parents William and Mary

Dearling
Elizabeth
07/04/1793
England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Horne, Surrey, England

Dearling
Hester
06/09/1795
England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Horne, Surrey, England

Dearling
James
21/01/1787
England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Horne, Surrey, England

Dearling
Mille
10/10/1790
England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Horne, Surrey, England

Dearling
Thomas
24/10/1784
England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Horne, Surrey, England

First name(s) William
Last name Dearling
Banns date 03 Sep 1775
Marriage year 1775
Marriage place Godstone, St Nicholas
Spouse's first name(s) Mary
Spouse's last name Ledger

much appreciated thanks everyone no evidence of gypsies i think