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Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,503 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	30 Dec 2022 20:09
	Catherine was born in Scotland - Marybank in Ross-shire
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,503 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	30 Dec 2022 20:04
	Baptism: 19 Aug 1917 St Peter, Burnley, Lancashire, England John Patchett - [Child] of Manasset Patchett & Catherine Born: 16 Jul 1917 Abode: 12 Jackson St. Occupation: Picture Palace Attendant Baptised by: C. H. Townson Register: Baptisms 1907 - 1919, Page 184, Entry 1472 Source: Original Parish Register
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	alviegal	Report	30 Dec 2022 20:03
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	PATCHETT, EDNA CHICKERAL GRO Reference: 1920 D Quarter in BURNLEY Volume 08E Page 249 PATCHETT, JOHN WILLIAMS GRO Reference: 1917 S Quarter in BURNLEY Volume 08E Page 181 Baptism: 19 Aug 1917 St Peter, Burnley, Lancashire, England John Patchett - [Child] of Manasset Patchett & Catherine Born: 16 Jul 1917 Abode: 12 Jackson St. Occupation: Picture Palace Attendant Baptised by: C. H. Townson Register: Baptisms 1907 - 1919, Page 184, Entry 1472 Source: Original Parish Register Baptism: 17 Nov 1920 St Andrew, Burnley, Lancashire, England Edna Patchett - [Child] of Manassel Patchett & Catherine Born: 25 Sep 1920 Abode: 10 Jackson Street Occupation: Cotton Labourer Baptised by: Wm. Henry Cooper, Vicar Register: Baptisms 1917 - 1928, Page 28, Entry 224 Source: Original Parish Register strange
Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 1,010 Send Message	Shirley	Report	30 Dec 2022 20:01
	another odd thing is mannaseh born in Salford in 1855 but his parents Benjamin and Mary brockbank didn't get married until 1857 and they lived in Colne. Well, Benjamin was born in Colne, so mannaseh was born two years before his parents got married. :-(
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,503 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	30 Dec 2022 20:01
	Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1920 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference Add to Summary PATCHETT Edna CHICKERAL 1920 Burnley East Preston Possibly just awful handwriting.................
Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 1,010 Send Message	Shirley	Report	30 Dec 2022 19:56
	I looked on the lancs opac and it says baptism of a, John and a baptism of I think Edna in 1917 and in 1920. It says on the church baptism that mannaseh and cathetine are the parents. But when I checked lbmd it has Williams as surname of mother and chikeral as surname of mother so I assumed that chikeral coukd be chisholm misheard and who knows with the Williams? Strange. Unless they baptised John as the parents but we're not actually the parents.? :-)
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	alviegal	Report	30 Dec 2022 19:56
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	and the 1921 1921 Census Of England & Wales 10 Jackson Street, Burnley, Lancashire, England Household members (3 people) First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer Manas?h Patchell Head Male 1855 66 Burnley, Lancashire, England Unable To Work Home Duties Catherine Patchell Wife Female 1888 33 - Cotton Wender Suttard Manufacturer Edna Patchell Daughter Female 1913 8 Burnley, Lancashire, England - - (should be 8 months)
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,503 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	30 Dec 2022 19:53
	42 Cobden Street in 1911 was the residence of the Clayton family - one of whom was a marriage witness. So, an address of convenience for Catherine The Clayton marriage.................note her maiden name, and that of the male witness Marriages Dec 1898 (>99%) BRADLEY Alice Burnley 8e 308 Clayton James Every Burnley 8e 308
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	alviegal	Report	30 Dec 2022 19:52
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	Marriage: 3 May 1880 St Andrew, Burnley, Lancashire, England Manasseh Patchett - 25, Collier, Bachelor, Butler St. Mary Ann Brockbank - 21, Weaver, Spinster, Escott St. Groom's Father: Benjamin Patchett, Warper Bride's Father: Christopher Brockbank, Weaver Witness: Robert Clark, (X); Margaret Hope, (X) Married by Certificate by: H. H. Robinson Register: Marriages 1869 - 1888, Page 97, Entry 193 Source: Original Parish Register Marriage: 23 Dec 1911 St Andrew, Burnley, Lancashire, England Manasseh Patchett - 50, Labourer, Widower, 43 Bar Street Catherine Chisholme - 24, Winder, Spinster, 42 Cobden Street Groom's Father: Benjamin Patchett, Deceased, Warper Bride's Father: John Chisholme, Cattle Dealer Witness: Arthur Herbert Bradley; Alice Clayton Married by Certificate by: Thomas Williams, Curate Register: Marriages 1904 - 1916, Page 176, Entry 351 Source: Original Parish Register
Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 1,010 Send Message	Shirley	Report	30 Dec 2022 19:46
	Thankyou for all the info guys. For some reason my search on the 1911 was coming up blank. appreciate the info below Thankyou so much ?????? :-)
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,503 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	30 Dec 2022 19:46
	Unless you can tell us more about Catherine, there's no hope of locating her. Why do you think she had children with Patchett? EDITED Marriage: 23 Dec 1911 St Andrew, Burnley, Lancashire, England Manasseh Patchett - 50, Labourer, Widower, 43 Bar Street Catherine Chisholme - 24, Winder, Spinster, 42 Cobden Street Groom's Father: Benjamin Patchett, Deceased, Warper Bride's Father: John Chisholme, Cattle Dealer Witness: Arthur Herbert Bradley; Alice Clayton Married by Certificate by: Thomas Williams, Curate Register: Marriages 1904 - 1916, Page 176, Entry 351 Source: Original Parish Register
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	alviegal	Report	30 Dec 2022 19:41
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	1911 Census For England & Wales 45 Bar St Burnley, Burnley, Lancashire, England View original record Household members (7 people) First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Manassek Patchett Head Widower Male 57 1854 Labourer at pit head Manchester Lancashire Margaret Ellen Patchett Daughter Single Female 16 1895 Weaver cotton Burnley Lancashire May Evelyne Patchett Daughter Single Female 15 1896 Weaver cotton Burnley Lancashire Elsie Patchett Daughter Single Female 13 1898 Weaver cotton Burnley Lancashire Sarah Ethel Duckles Boarder Married Female 23 1888 Weaver cotton Burnley Lancashire Harry Duckles Boarder Married Male 24 1887 Carter railway Burnley Lancashire Florence May Duckles Boarder - Female 1 1910 - Burnley Lancashire
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	alviegal	Report	30 Dec 2022 19:38
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census 21, Bar Street, Burnley, Lancashire, England View original record Household members (9 people) First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Mannash Patchett Head Married Male 45 1856 Coal miner belowground Manchester, Lancashire, England Mary A Patchett Wife Married Female 49 1852 - Burnley, Lancashire, England Ephraim Patchett Son Single Male 19 1882 King's own scottish borderer's lance corporal Burnley, Lancashire, England Alfred Patchett Son Single Male 18 1883 Cotton weaver Burnley, Lancashire, England Sarah E Patchett Daughter Single Female 13 1888 Cotton weaver Burnley, Lancashire, England Margaret E Patchett Daughter Single Female 6 1895 - Burnley, Lancashire, England May E Patchett Daughter - Female 4 1897 - Burnley, Lancashire, England Elsie Patchett Daughter - Female 3 1898 - Burnley, Lancashire, England Christopher Brockbank Brother-in-law Married Male 32 1869 Cotton weaver Burnley, Lancashire, England
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,503 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	30 Dec 2022 19:36
	Name: Manasseh Patchett Death Age: 75 Birth Date: abt 1855 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep 1930 Registration District: Burnley Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 8e Page: 164
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	alviegal	Report	30 Dec 2022 19:35
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	His birth First name(s) Manasseh Country England Last name Patchett Volume 8D Birth quarter 4 Page 43 Birth year 1854 Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006 Mother's maiden name Knowles Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records District Salford Subcategory Civil Births County Lancashire Collections from Great Britain, England
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,503 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	30 Dec 2022 19:35
	Ancestry Name: Manassch Patchett Age in 1911: 57 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Burnley County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: 45 Bar St Burnley Marital status: Widowed Occupation: Labourer At Pit Registration District Number: 472 Sub-registration District: East Ward ED, institution, or vessel: 24 Piece: 24802 Household Members: Name Age Manassch Patchett 57 Margaret Ellen Patchett 16 May Evelyne Patchett 15 Elsie Patchett 13 Sarah Ethel Duckles 23 Harry Duckles 24 Florence May Duckles 1 FMP Manassek Patchett Head Widower Male 57 1854 Labourer at pit head Manchester Lancashire Margaret Ellen Patchett Daughter Single Female 16 1895 Weaver cotton Burnley Lancashire May Evelyne Patchett Daughter Single Female 15 1896 Weaver cotton Burnley Lancashire Elsie Patchett Daughter Single Female 13 1898 Weaver cotton Burnley Lancashire Sarah Ethel Duckles Boarder Married Female 23 1888 Weaver cotton Burnley Lancashire Harry Duckles Boarder Married Male 24 1887 Carter railway Burnley Lancashire Florence May Duckles Boarder - Female 1 1910 - Burnley Lancashire
Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 1,010 Send Message	Shirley	Report	30 Dec 2022 19:23
	I noticed he and catherine had two children after their 1911 marriage. But when I look at mums maiden name given one says Williams and another says chikeral. Odd. Perhaps Catherine had a, strong accent? :-)
Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 1,010 Send Message	Shirley	Report	30 Dec 2022 19:21
	his father was Benjamin patchett. His first wife was Mary Ann brockbank. I think it's more likely he was born in Colne as it seems a lot of the patchett family had burial in Colne and Nelson. :-)
Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 1,010 Send Message	Shirley	Report	30 Dec 2022 19:20
	it says 1855. one census it says born Manchester. Another census born Colne. He said he was 50 on his marriage but he was more like 56 :-(
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,503 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	30 Dec 2022 19:14
	The marriage didn’t take place until OND 1911,

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