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Member Since: November 2006 Posts: 62 Send Message	MartinHill	Report	5 Dec 2022 18:30
	ArgyllGran Many thanks for your help. Much appreciated Martin
	Researching: Researching Hill family, Hanley/Birkenhead and Marshall family, Bury/Todmorden
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Member Since: March 2003 Posts: 26,281 Send Message	ArgyllGran	Report	3 Dec 2022 22:10
	Can't think of any particular reservations re the family in Wales, except maybe whether the Canadian marriage is the correct one. Daisy was born and christened Ann. See birth (4 Sept 1892) and baptism posted earlier. There were at least two more children , who died young and don't appear on the censuses. HILL, MARIE LILIAN mmn DAVIES GRO Reference: 1894 M Quarter in NEWPORT MON Volume 11A Page 183 Deaths Dec 1896 (>99%) Hill Marie Lilian 3 Newport, M. 11a 135 Maria Lilian Hill in the Monmouthshire, Wales, Anglican Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1551-1994 Name: Maria Lilian Hill Baptism Age: 0 Record Type: Baptism Birth Date: 1894 Baptism Date: 28 Jan 1894 Baptism Place: Newport St John Evangelist, Monmouthshire, Wales Father: George Hill Mother: Lily Hill Page number: 229 HILL, GEORGE mmn DAVIES GRO Reference: 1895 D Quarter in NEWPORT MON Volume 11A Page 168 Deaths Mar 1897 (>99%) Hill George 1 Newport, M. 11a 123 George Hill in the Monmouthshire, Wales, Anglican Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1551-1994 Name: George Hill Baptism Age: 0 Record Type: Baptism Birth Date: 1895 Baptism Date: 9 Oct 1895 Baptism Place: Newport St John Evangelist, Monmouthshire, Wales Father: George Hill Mother: Lily Hill Page number: 284
	Researching: Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.
Member Since: November 2006 Posts: 62 Send Message	MartinHill	Report	3 Dec 2022 14:49
	Greyghost - yes these are the children and the correct George b. 1868 - George Hill Head - Male 46 1825 - Hanley, Staffordshire, England Ann Hill Wife - Female 45 1826 - Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England William Hill Son - Male 20 1851 - Hanley, Staffordshire, England Thirza Hill Daughter-in-law - Female 20 1851 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England Martha Hill Daughter - Female 15 1856 - Hanley, Staffordshire, England Alice Hill Daughter - Female - - - Hanley, Staffordshire, England Eliza Hill Daughter - Female 9 1862 - Hanley, Staffordshire, England Emily Hill Daughter - Female 6 1865 - Hanley, Staffordshire, England George Hill Son - Male 3 1868 - Hanley, Staffordshire, England The Thirza married to william (sibling of George) and children listed is also correct. I have a possible George Hill in the 1901 as stated above at 87 Church Street Hanley working as a butcher salesman but I wasn't 100%. Greyghost/ArgyllGran the results for the wales connection are very interesting and do look like its the right George. Lily (wife) confusion on birth place which I would need certificates for. But looking at the time line it does suggest its the correct George 1871 - 7 Nelson Place, Hanley 1891 - Marriage to Lily 1893 - birth of first child - Daisy Hill Daughter - Female 8 1893 - Hanley, Staffordshire, England 1911- Alteryn Road, Newport 1939 register - George birth/occupation/dob looks right well done ErikaH. Thankyou to everyone. Finally what reservations would you have that would make the welsh link incorrect?
	Researching: Researching Hill family, Hanley/Birkenhead and Marshall family, Bury/Todmorden
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,503 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	1 Dec 2022 13:11
	To expand on the Canadian marriage posted by greyghost, the bride's parents are named as Thomas Davies and Mary Power ?????? Marriages Mar 1861 (>99%) DAVIES Thomas Carmarthen 11a 704 Donald Michael Carmarthen 11a 704 Jones Margaret Carmarthen 11a 704 POWER Mary Carmarthen 11a 704 Unable at present to confirm who married whom....................
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	greyghost	Report	1 Dec 2022 12:13
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	Possible deaths - Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page Deaths Mar 1947 (>99%) Hill George 79 Newport 8c 312 Deaths Mar 1953 (>99%) HILL Lily E 85 Newport 8c 243
Member Since: March 2003 Posts: 26,281 Send Message	ArgyllGran	Report	1 Dec 2022 00:21
	HILL, MAGGIE MAY mmn DAVIES GRO Reference: 1899 S Quarter in NEWPORT MON Volume 11A Page 176 ??? In view of 1921 census posted above - Lily Davies in the Web: Montreal, Canada, non-Catholic Marriage Index, 1766-1899 Name: Lily Davies Marriage Year: 1890 Marriage Place: Montreal, Québec (Quebec), Canada Spouse: George Hill Denomination: Anglican Source: Centre d'archives de Montréal, CE601,S77 Page: 32 But 1901 and 1911 say Lily was born in Liverpool.
	Researching: Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	greyghost	Report	1 Dec 2022 00:18
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	1921 Census Of England & Wales Alteryn Cottages, Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer George Hill Head Male 1868 53 Staffordshire, England Brickyard Labour Alteryn Brick Tile Terrer Cotter Comp Lily Hill Mother Female 1872 48 Montreal, Quebec, Canada - Home Duties Arthur Hill Son Male 1897 23 - Brickyard Labourer Alteryn B T T Copp George Austin Hill Son Male 1900 21 - Brickyard Labourer Alteryn B T T Copp William Hill Son Male 1905 16 - Not Occupied Invalide - Dorothy Hill Daughter Female 1914 7 - - -
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	greyghost	Report	1 Dec 2022 00:15
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	1901 - 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Alteryn Road, Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place George Hill Head Married Male 33 1868 General labourer Hanley, Staffordshire, England Lily Hill Wife Married Female 28 1873 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daisy Hill Daughter - Female 8 1893 - Hanley, Staffordshire, England Arthur Hill Son - Male 4 1897 - Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales Albert Hill Son - Male 3 1898 - Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales Maggie M Hill Daughter - Female 2 1899 - Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales George A Hill Son - Male 0 1901 - Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales
Member Since: March 2003 Posts: 26,281 Send Message	ArgyllGran	Report	1 Dec 2022 00:06
	The Newport family in 1939: George Hill in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: George Hill Gender: Male Marital Status: Married Birth Date: 3 Mar 1868 Residence Date: 1939 Address: 13 Residence Place: Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales Occupation: Retired Brickworks Foreman Line Number: 12 Schedule Number: 285 Sub Schedule Number: 1 Enumeration District: Xnnr Borough: Newport Registration district: 587-2 Inferred Spouse: Lily Hill Inferred Children: Daisy A Hill [ Ann Daisy Hill ] Robert Hill Household Members (Name) Age George Hill 71 Lily Hill 71 - 12 July 1868 Daisy A Hill 46 - 4 Sept 1893 Robert Hill 7 - 18 Nov 1932 HILL, VICTOR CHARLES ROBERT - GRO Reference: 1932 D Quarter in NEWPORT (MON.) Volume 11A Page 335
	Researching: Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	greyghost	Report	1 Dec 2022 00:06
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	the Parish marriage of George Hill and Ann Lloyd Staffordshire Marriages Shelton, St Mark, Staffordshire, England First name(s) George Last name Hill Father's first name(s) William Father's last name Hill Age Full Age Place Shelton, St Mark Denomination Anglican Residence Shelton Year 1846 Date 24 May 1846 Archive reference D4904/1/17 Spouse's first name(s) Ann Spouse's last name Lloyd Spouse's age Full Age Spouse's residence Shelton Spouse's father's first name(s) Thomas Spouse's father's last name Lloyd County Staffordshire Country England Register type MarriagePage 187 Record set Staffordshire Marriages Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Marriages Collections from England, Great Britain From original - George is a Miner Witnesses are William ? Hill and Sarah Hill
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	greyghost	Report	30 Nov 2022 23:56
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Hanover Street, Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place George Hill Head Married Male 27 1824 Coal miner Shelton, Staffordshire, England Ann Hill Wife Married Female 26 1825 - Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England William Hill Son - Male 0 1851 - Shelton, Staffordshire, England Thomas Lloyd Visitor Married Male 31 1820 Coal miner Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Mary Lloyd - Married Female 33 1818 - Tipton, Staffordshire, England Joseph Lloyd Visitor's son - Male 7 1844 - Bilston, Staffordshire, England Thomas Lloyd Visitor's son - Male 4 1847 - Bilston, Staffordshire, England ------------------- Family in Shelton 1861 to fit those baptisms - 1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census 98, Etruria Road, Shelton, Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place George Hill Head Married Male 36 1825 Coal miner Hanley, Staffordshire, England Ann Hill Wife Married Female 35 1826 - Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England William Hill Son - Male 10 1851 Scholar Hanley, Staffordshire, England Ann Hill Daughter - Female 8 1853 Scholar Hanley, Staffordshire, England Martha Hill Daughter - Female 5 1856 - Hanley, Staffordshire, England Alice Hill Daughter - Female 2 1859 - Leek, Staffordshire, England
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	greyghost	Report	30 Nov 2022 23:47
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	Eliza and Emily same date - Staffordshire Baptisms Hanley, St Luke, Staffordshire, England First name(s) Emily Country England Last name Hill Archive reference D3726/1/1 Baptism year 1871 Register type Baptism Baptism date 27 Feb 1871 Page 157 Father's first name(s) George Record set Staffordshire Baptisms Mother's first name(s) Ann Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Denomination Anglican Subcategory Parish Baptisms Place Hanley, St Luke Collections from England, Great Britain County Staffordshire From original - of Nelson Place. Father an engineer
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	greyghost	Report	30 Nov 2022 23:45
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	Shelton is an area of Stoke on Trent between Hanley and Stoke Staffordshire Baptisms Shelton, St Mark, Staffordshire, England First name(s) Martha Country England Last name Hill Archive reference D4904/1/2 Baptism year 1859 Register type Baptism Baptism date 10 Apr 1859 Page 4 Father's first name(s) George Record set Staffordshire Baptisms Mother's first name(s) Ann Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Denomination Anglican Subcategory Parish Baptisms Place Shelton, St Mark Collections from England, Great Britain County Staffordshire Original says George is a Miner Also baptised same date was Alice and on 13 October 1850, William was baptised. Father a Miner of Shelton
Member Since: March 2003 Posts: 26,281 Send Message	ArgyllGran	Report	30 Nov 2022 23:39
	The 1901 you mention: George Hill in the 1901 England Census Name: George Hill Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relation to Head: Boarder Gender: Male Birth Place: Hanley, Staffordshire, England Civil parish: Hanley Ecclesiastical parish: Hanley St John County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Registration district: Stoke upon Trent Sub-registration district: Hanley ED, institution, or vessel: 02 Neighbors: Piece: 2599 Folio: 39 Page number: 22 Household schedule number: 129 He's stated to be single, and a butcher's salesman. I can't see the 1901 record in Newport, which ErikaH mentions. There's this one in 1911: George Hill in the 1911 Wales Census Name: George Hill Age in 1911: 43 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Hanley, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Newport County/Island: Monmouthshire Country: Wales Street Address: Alteryn Road Newport Mon Marital status: Married Years Married: 20 1/2 Estimated Marriage Year: 1891 Occupation: Labourer Registration District: Newport Registration District Number: 587 Sub-registration District: Newport ED, institution, or vessel: 06 Household Schedule Number: 333 Piece: 31965 Household Members: Name Age George Hill 43 L Thomas Hill 1 Lily Hill 38 - Liverpool Daisey Hill 19 Arthur Hill 14 Albert Hill 9 May Hill 11 Austin Hill 12 Lily Hill 10 William Hill 6 HILL, ARTHUR mmn DAVIES GRO Reference: 1897 M Quarter in NEWPORT MON Volume 11A Page 190 Daisy: HILL, ANN mmn DAVIES GRO Reference: 1892 D Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 164 HILL, GEORGE AUSTIN mmn DAVIES GRO Reference: 1900 J Quarter in NEWPORT MON Volume 11A Page 249 HILL, LILY mmn DAVIES GRO Reference: 1901 S Quarter in NEWPORT MON Volume 11A Page 258 HILL, LLOYD THOMAS mmn DAVIES GRO Reference: 1910 M Quarter in NEWPORT MON Volume 11A Page 248 George Austin Hill in the Monmouthshire, Wales, Anglican Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1551-1994 Name: George Austin Hill Baptism Age: 0 Record Type: Baptism Birth Date: 1900 Baptism Date: 5 Jun 1900 Baptism Place: Newport St John Evangelist, Monmouthshire, Wales Father: George Hill Mother: Lily Hill Ann Hill in the Staffordshire, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1900 Name: Ann Hill Birth Date: 4 Sep 1892 Baptism Date: 25 Sep 1892 Baptism Place: Hanley, St Luke, Staffordshire, England Religion: Anglican Father: George Hill Mother: Lilly Hill Page number: 136 Can't see the family in 1901.
	Researching: Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	greyghost	Report	30 Nov 2022 23:20
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: HILL, WILLIAM PERCY NEWMAN GRO Reference: 1873 M Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 221 HILL, FREDERICK NEWMAN GRO Reference: 1877 D Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 188 HILL, CHARLWOOD NEWMAN GRO Reference: 1880 S Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 221 HILL, BERTRAM NEWMAN GRO Reference: 1884 D Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 195
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	greyghost	Report	30 Nov 2022 23:02
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	Could this be George in 1881 - note Thirza Hill aged 30. It does say she's born Staffs rather than the Liverpool of 1871. 1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census 10, Stanley Terrace Bridge Road, Wavertree, West Derby, Lancashire, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Charlwood Head Married Male 42 1839 Cab owner cab proprietor Essex, England Sarah Jane Charlwood Wife Married Female 33 1848 - Stafford, Staffordshire, England William Percy Hill Adopted son Single Male 8 1873 Scholar Stafford, Staffordshire, England George Hill Brother in law Single Male 13 1868 Scholar Stafford, Staffordshire, England Thirza Hill Sister in law Married Female 30 1851 - Stafford, Staffordshire, England Frederic Hill Nephew Single Male 3 1878 - Stafford, Staffordshire, England Charlwood Hill Nephew Single Male 0 1881 - Stafford, Staffordshire, England Original only says born Staffordshire, it doesn't define Stafford ----------------------------------------- This looks to be Thirza in 1891 1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Melville Street, Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Hill Head Married Male 40 1851 Stationary engine driver Hanley, Staffordshire, England Thirza Hill Wife Married Female 40 1851 - Hanley, Staffordshire, England William P Hill Son Single Male 18 1873 Waggoner in mine Hanley, Staffordshire, England George Hill Son Single Male 16 1875 Waggoner in mine Hanley, Staffordshire, England Fred Hill Son - Male 13 1878 - Hanley, Staffordshire, England Bertram Hill Son - Male 6 1885 Scholar Hanley, Staffordshire, England
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	greyghost	Report	30 Nov 2022 22:36
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	This is the George you mention in 1871 - how do you know this is the person you are looking for? 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Nelson Place, Hanley, Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place George Hill Head - Male 46 1825 - Hanley, Staffordshire, England Ann Hill Wife - Female 45 1826 - Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England William Hill Son - Male 20 1851 - Hanley, Staffordshire, England Thirza Hill Daughter-in-law - Female 20 1851 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England Martha Hill Daughter - Female 15 1856 - Hanley, Staffordshire, England Alice Hill Daughter - Female - - - Hanley, Staffordshire, England Eliza Hill Daughter - Female 9 1862 - Hanley, Staffordshire, England Emily Hill Daughter - Female 6 1865 - Hanley, Staffordshire, England George Hill Son - Male 3 1868 - Hanley, Staffordshire, England Father George is an Engine ..? - at a coal Mine ---------------------------------------- Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: HILL, GEORGE LLOYD GRO Reference: 1868 J Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 182 HILL, EMILY LLOYD GRO Reference: 1865 J Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 175 HILL, ELIZA LLOYD GRO Reference: 1862 M Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 160 ------------------------------ Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Jun 1846 (>99%) Astbury Thomas Stoke On Trent 17 189 Brandell Elizabeth Stoke on Tr 17 189 Buxton Henry Stoke on Trent 17 189 Emery Lewis Stoke on T 17 189 Hill George Stoke on T 17 189 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Lloyd Ann Stoke on Trt 17 189 <<<<<<< Morris Hannah Stoke on T 17 189 Ratcliff Elizabeth Stoke on T 17 189
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,503 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	30 Nov 2022 21:12
	There is a George Hill, born Hanley 1868 living in Newport, Mon in 1901
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,503 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	30 Nov 2022 20:51
	The best place to look for marriage info is freebmd….. Or try Staffordshire records on UKBMD
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,503 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	30 Nov 2022 20:49
	For info, his birth was registered AMJ You may need to visit the County Records Office to look for a baptism - not all records are onlne

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